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.Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.^ You are NOT agnostic about their existence.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Strong agnosticism states that the existence or non-existence of god(s) is unknowable.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ This is from the dictionary: 1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable ; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god I'm agnostic as it is broadly known.
  • FARK.com: (4292172) Jesus will not be riding his dinosaur in Texas 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

[1] .Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions.In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the differences between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief.^ Belief is not the concern of > agnosticism, knowledge is.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Atheism and theism are about belief, whereas agnosticism is about knowledge.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.Thomas Henry Huxley, an English biologist, coined the word agnostic in 1860. However, earlier thinkers and written works have promoted agnostic points of view.^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to Unknowability and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.They include Protagoras, a 5th-century BCE Greek philosopher,[2] and a Nasadiya Sukta creation myth in the Rigveda, an ancient Hindu religious text.^ The ancient Greeks, Babylonians and Mayan had limited knowledge, as did the Jews, Christians, Muslims and Hindus when they wrote their holy books.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ An ancient text that talks about a man is not the same, we know for a fact that men exist, and that some of them are philosophers.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[3] .Since Huxley coined the term, many other thinkers have written extensively about agnosticism.^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to Unknowability > > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Colin: Again, none of this is proof of the absence of God, but I'm suggesting that the kinds of things you suggest are evidence for God really aren't, since they can be attributed to other things that can be explained in terms that we do have evidence for.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

Contents

Defining agnosticism

.Demographic research services normally list agnostics in the same category as atheists and/or non-religious people.^ Comments Lisa Faires and Brad Pritikin question why people use the word “agnostic” when they really mean “atheist.” .
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I called myself an agnostic for years and sometimes still do to some people, but I’m atheist without a doubt.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Most people use the word 'agnostic' to refer to a lack of belief in either the existence or non-existance of God.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

[4] .Some sources use agnostic in the sense of noncommittal.^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > > > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > > > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[5] .Agnosticism often overlaps with other belief systems.^ Unfortunately, it seem that often religious fanantics want to impose their beliefs on others, often reverting to force and violence.
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ As to the matter of comparison with all other faiths or belief systems read through the rest of the Proof.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ So even if they call the other ones "a myth", it says nothing about level of evidence and everything about their existing belief system ...
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.Agnostic theists identify themselves both as agnostics and as followers of particular religions, viewing agnosticism as a framework for thinking about the nature of belief and their relation to revealed truths.^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ That means that I can be both agnostic and theist, and thus an agnostic theist.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I always find hard agnosticism to be fun because I get to argue with both atheists and theists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.Some nonreligious people, such as author Philip Pullman, identify as both agnostic and atheist.^ I always find hard agnosticism to be fun because I get to argue with both atheists and theists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ So, most completely, I call myself an agnostic atheist (“adeist” not being common enough to do anything but confuse people).
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In order for you to support your claim that "One can also be an agnostic atheist" is false, what you have to produce is a reason to concider that both caracteristics are mutually exclusive.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[6]
Thomas Henry Huxley defined the term:
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Agnosticism is not a creed but a method, the essence of which lies in the vigorous application of a single principle...^ The justification of the Agnostic principle lies in the success which follows upon its application, whether in the field of natural, or in that of civil, history; and in the fact that, so far as these topics are concerned, no sane man thinks of denying its validity.
  • Agnosticism and Christianity (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Adopting a willingness to act as if there is a God coupled with the application of certain principles will produce spiritual experiences even for agnostics.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

Positively the principle may be expressed as in matters of intellect, do not pretend conclusions are certain that are not demonstrated or demonstrable.[7]

Etymology

.Agnostic (Greek: ἀ- a-, without + γνῶσις gnōsis, knowledge) was used by Thomas Henry Huxley in a speech at a meeting of the Metaphysical Society in 1876[7] to describe his philosophy which rejects all claims of spiritual or mystical knowledge.^ I really feel that even with his knowledge of evolution, Dawson cannot adequately address the esoteric nature of faith without delving into history and philosophy.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ By understanding how we and everything around us are interconnected in Space we can then deduce solutions to the fundamental problems of human knowledge in physics , philosophy , metaphysics , theology , education , health , evolution and ecology , politics and society .
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In the late 19th century, Thomas Henry Huxley, Robert Ingersoll, and Frederick Nietzsche became atheist prophets.
  • Lists & Guides tagged with agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.amazon.com [Source type: General]

Early Christian church leaders used the Greek word gnosis (knowledge) to describe "spiritual knowledge." Agnosticism is not to be confused with religious views opposing the ancient religious movement of Gnosticism in particular; Huxley used the term in a broader, more abstract sense.[8] Huxley identified agnosticism not as a creed but rather as a method of skeptical, evidence-based inquiry.[9][10]
In recent years, scientific literature dealing with neuroscience and psychology has used the word to mean "not knowable".[11] In technical and marketing literature, agnostic often has a meaning close to "independent"—for example, "platform agnostic" or "hardware agnostic."

Qualifying agnosticism

.Scottish Enlightenment philosopher David Hume contended that meaningful statements about the universe are always qualified by some degree of doubt.^ "The fundamental atheism of Spinoza," said David Hume, "is the doctrine of the simplicity of the universe and the unity of that substance in which he supposes both thought and matter to inhere."
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

[12]. He asserted that the fallibility of human beings means that they cannot obtain absolute certainty except in trivial cases where a statement is true by definition (i.e. tautologies such as "all bachelors are unmarried" or "all triangles have three corners"). .All rational statements that assert a factual claim about the universe that begin "I believe that ...."^ You made this statement with absolute certainty when there is no actual facts behind believing in a universe with God or without God.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I do not believe in God for the sole purpose that a belief does not produce knowledge about the physical universe.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ An ancient text about an invisible all-powerful being better have some objective evidence on which we can judge whether the claims it makes are tenable or not.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

are simply shorthand for, ."Based on my knowledge, understanding, and interpretation of the prevailing evidence, I tentatively believe that...."^ I must hope I am not being too dogmatic in this, but it would > > > > > appear to my peculiar way of thinking, that if you believe > > > > > something, you do so on the basis of some knowledge, be > > > > > it right, or wrong.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I must hope I am not being too dogmatic in this, but it would > > appear to my peculiar way of thinking, that if you believe > > something, you do so on the basis of some knowledge, be > > it right, or wrong.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I must hope I am not being too dogmatic in this, but it would > > > > appear to my peculiar way of thinking, that if you believe > > > > something, you do so on the basis of some knowledge, be > > > > it right, or wrong.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.For instance, when one says, "I believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot John F. Kennedy," one is not asserting an absolute truth but a tentative belief based on interpretation of the assembled evidence.^ Theists can > > > > > believe and have no evidence but they can still claim that they don't > > > > > actually know whether a god exists (many say they know but they "know" > > > > > because they say they "feel it inside".
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Basically, it was all hear say, not a good base for any belief, don't you agree?
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ So even if they call the other ones "a myth", it says nothing about level of evidence and everything about their existing belief system ...
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.Even though one may set an alarm clock prior to the following day, believing that waking up will be possible, that belief is tentative, tempered by a small but finite degree of doubt (the alarm might break, or one might die before the alarm goes off).^ We end up scarfing down trivia, day in and day out, that would've been too expensive to learn about before the internet.

^ Is it your belief that it's more humane to let people remain as agnostics, even though it's false, rather than progressing to atheism?
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Although no one at present has any > > > relevant data, it is possible that some may come along in the future.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

The Catholic Church sees merit in examining what it calls Partial Agnosticism, specifically those systems that "do not aim at constructing a complete philosophy of the Unknowable, but at excluding special kinds of truth, notably religious, from the domain of knowledge."[13] However, the Church is historically opposed to a full denial of the ability of human reason to know God. .The Council of the Vatican, relying on biblical scripture, declares that "God, the beginning and end of all, can, by the natural light of human reason, be known with certainty from the works of creation" (Const.^ While he hated Jehovah, he praised the God of Nature, the creator and preserver of all.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Then I concluded that all religions had been naturally produced, and that all were variation, modifications of one, -- then I felt that I knew that all were the work of man.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ The reason I dont think God would set up natural selection is because the criteria for God includes omnibenevolence, and I dont see an all-loving God setting up a mechanism that would eventually kill 99% of his creatures.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

De Fide, II, De Rev.)[14]

Types of agnosticism

Agnosticism can be subdivided into several categories. Recently suggested variations include:
Strong agnosticism (also called "hard," "closed," "strict," or "permanent agnosticism")
the view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "I cannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you."
Weak agnosticism (also called "soft," "open," "empirical," or "temporal agnosticism")
the view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable, therefore one will withhold judgment until/if any evidence is available. A weak agnostic would say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybe one day when there is evidence we can find something out."
Apathetic agnosticism (also called Pragmatic agnosticism)
the view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of any deity, but since any deity that may exist appears unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic.[citation needed]
Agnostic atheism
the view of those who do not claim to know of the existence of any deity, but do not believe in any.[15]
Agnostic theism (also called "spiritual agnosticism")
the view of those who do not claim to know of the existence of any deity, but still .believe in such an existence.^ The mere question of the existence of god seems a bit preposterous to even ask without any positive evidence to believe such a thing.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

Ignosticism
the view that a coherent definition of a deity must be put forward before the question of the existence of a deity can be meaningfully discussed. If the chosen definition isn't coherent, the ignostic holds the noncognitivist view that the existence of a deity is meaningless or empirically untestable. .A.J. Ayer, Theodore Drange, and other philosophers see both atheism and agnosticism as incompatible with ignosticism on the grounds that atheism and agnosticism accept "a deity exists" as a meaningful proposition which can be argued for or against.^ I always find hard agnosticism to be fun because I get to argue with both atheists and theists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism is not a middle ground between > > atheism and theism, there is no middle ground between atheism and > > theism and agnosticism isn't one nor is it defined as being one.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I always find hard agnosticism to be fun because > > I get to argue with both atheists and theists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.An ignostic cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or a nontheist until a better definition of theism is put forth.^ Theists can > > > > > believe and have no evidence but they can still claim that they don't > > > > > actually know whether a god exists (many say they know but they "know" > > > > > because they say they "feel it inside".
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Continuing with our movie analogy, we could say a better definition would be 'Most humans like movies' .
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If you are an agnostic theist, you are still a theist, whether you are sure of your theism or not.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[16]

History of agnostic thought

.Since Huxley first used the term, several writers have defended agnosticism as a philosophical viewpoint.^ Someone asked me about a term I used to describe my agnosticism vis certain > > > > types of gods.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to Unknowability and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

A number of earlier thinkers and writings have explored agnostic thought.

In Greek Philosophy

.Agnostic thought, in the form of skepticism, emerged as a formal philosophical position in ancient Greece.^ They are completely dismissive of the ancient Greek gods, yet in ancient Greece an agnostic would have been sitting on the fence regarding Zeus but completely dismissive of the gods in African villages.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Its proponents included Protagoras, Pyrrho, and Carneades.[17] Such thinkers rejected the idea that certainty was possible.

Hume and Kant

.Many philosophers (following the examples of Aristotle, Anselm, Aquinas, and Descartes) presented arguments attempting to rationally prove the existence of God.^ That is, the evidence presently available in support of God's > existence is > > > > > exactly matched by evidence presently available against God's > existence.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Since even you don't > claim that that is the case, no argument for the existence of God is > sound.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ That is, the evidence presently available in support of God's > existence is exactly matched by evidence presently available against God's > existence.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Following the skeptical empiricism of David Hume and the antinomies of Immanuel Kant, most later philosophers abandoned these attempts, regarding it impossible to construct any such unassailable proof.

Thomas Henry Huxley

Thomas Henry Huxley.
.Agnostic views are as old as philosophical skepticism, but the terms agnostic and agnosticism were created by Huxley to sum up his thoughts on contemporary developments of metaphysics about the "unconditioned" (Hamilton) and the "unknowable" (Herbert Spencer).^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to Unknowability and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

It is important, therefore, to discover Huxley's own views on the matter. .Though Huxley began to use the term "agnostic" in 1869, his opinions had taken shape some time before that date.^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ It is not saying that we will NEVER know which side is right, which is what agnostic really means, so people are using the term incorrectly when talking about science.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The argument from some agnostics that we can't categorically dismiss gods is flawed since they've already done it thousands of times.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

In a letter of September 23, 1860, to Charles Kingsley, Huxley discussed his views extensively:
I neither affirm nor deny the immortality of man. .I see no reason for believing it, but, on the other hand, I have no means of disproving it.^ There is NO over-arching, cosmic "reason" for us to be here other than the words, "Shit happens."
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Just because a person believes there to be no gods does not automatically mean they have an obligation to convert others to this point of view.
  • Daylight Atheism > A Memo to Fence-Sitting Agnostics 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.daylightatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ On a positive note it's great that you can see no good reason to believe in gods, but I can't say I'm a fan of ignosticism or theological noncognitivism.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

I have no a priori objections to the doctrine. .No man who has to deal daily and hourly with nature can trouble himself about a priori difficulties.^ "But, as it is written, 'What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him'" (1 Cor.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ He never works -- has no trouble about business.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ So, they told of a man who compared himself with his dog.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

.Give me such evidence as would justify me in believing in anything else, and I will believe that.^ I have given evidence for young earth before, but could only give you broad swaths of such (I’m not an “expert” in such things) and don’t have time even for that.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I would be worried about his association with Wright if I could find any evidence of Obama having such extreme views himself.
  • Pajamas Media » Wright, Ayers, and Obama: An Agnostic Quotes the Bible 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC pajamasmedia.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If you’re not looking for a designer or you don’t believe in one, I’m not sure it would be within the realm of science to make the determination that such a being does “not” intervene.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

Why should I not? It is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter...
.It is no use to talk to me of analogies and probabilities.^ In science, “truth” is not ever absolute but can be used to mean highly probable with no credible alternative.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

.I know what I mean when I say I believe in the law of the inverse squares, and I will not rest my life and my hopes upon weaker convictions...^ If you find it impossible to at least respect the effects of something which gives millions hope and comfort in life, irrespective of whether you believe in it, then I have no interest in winning.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Yes, but when someone says "I believe in god" you know for sure they're a nutter.
  • How I became an agnostic | Stephen Bates | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

^ I don't know if it is intentional or if just internally you remap the arguments to the different arguments, but you continually make claims as if my argument is what it is not, and to something that is inconsistent with everything else I say or do.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.That my personality is the surest thing I know may be true.^ I don't know whether this is true but it's the kind of thing that could be argued and supported by evidence) .
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Let us be true to ourselves -- true to the facts we know, and let us, above all things, preserve the veracity of our souls.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ In my view, I recognize that these things > are not demonstrated (since you don't react well to the word "proof") > to the level where we can know what is true and what is false.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

But the attempt to conceive what it is leads me into mere verbal subtleties. .I have champed up all that chaff about the ego and the non-ego, noumena and phenomena, and all the rest of it, too often not to know that in attempting even to think of these questions, the human intellect flounders at once out of its depth.^ There is a big difference between these gods and the one and only God, the one "omnipresent" and "all-knowing".

^ In Stock Atheism: A Beginner's Handbook: All you wanted to know about atheism and why by Philip A Stahl ( 3 ) Price: $14.95 .
  • Lists & Guides tagged with agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.amazon.com [Source type: General]

^ Dawkins knows atheism but I often get the feeling that he doesn't quite as well represent agnosticism, but what do I know, talking about agnosticism is still pretty new to me.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

And again, to the same correspondent, May 6, 1863:
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I have never had the least sympathy with the a priori reasons against orthodoxy, and I have by nature and disposition the greatest possible antipathy to all the atheistic and infidel school.^ In its phenomenal aspect, the cosmic One is thus intrinsically dynamic, and the apprehension of its dynamic nature is basic to all schools of Eastern mysticism.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ It is this truth or falsehood possibility that makes the framework of logical reasoning relevant to the problem, at least to the extent of forming some sense of the probability of truth of the proposition.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Then, the schoolmaster carried on the war against their natural sense, and all the books they read were filled with the same impossible truths.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

.Nevertheless I know that I am, in spite of myself, exactly what the Christian would call, and, so far as I can see, is justified in calling, atheist and infidel.^ I call myself an atheist.That is good enough by me.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Would you call it self-aggrandizement, should I call myself Beelzebub, Lord of the Flies or should I call myself Doctor Beardris, the Masterdragon or Anubis Lancelot, the Scribe of the Unicorns?

^ I always find myself pondering why atheists and theists alike take to calling us "fence sitters" and "intellectual wimps" to demean us.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.I cannot see one shadow or tittle of evidence that the great unknown underlying the phenomenon of the universe stands to us in the relation of a Father [who] loves us and cares for us as Christianity asserts.^ Many can debate many things but the one thing that cannot be debated is Love.
  • Agnosticism was what saved my faith | Nesrine Malik | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

^ This, coupled with the delusion that we can still control our drinking in the face of conclusive evidence that we cannot, is a form of insanity should convince us that we are powerless over alcohol.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

^ But, from those who would presume to lead us, can we not require a certain amount of care in making choices that affect themselves and others?
  • Pajamas Media » Wright, Ayers, and Obama: An Agnostic Quotes the Bible 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC pajamasmedia.com [Source type: Original source]

.So with regard to the other great Christian dogmas, immortality of soul and future state of rewards and punishments, what possible objection can I—who am compelled perforce to believe in the immortality of what we call Matter and Force, and in a very unmistakable present state of rewards and punishments for our deeds—have to these doctrines?^ They may view the issue as so abstract and removed from human experience > > > > that it is impossible that we should have any evidence regarding it, one > > > > way or the other, so the matter is essentially unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They > > may view the issue as so abstract and removed from human experience that it > > is impossible that we should have any evidence regarding it, one way or the > > other, so the matter is essentially unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They are making the claim that the matter of God's > > > > > existence is essentially unknowable and that there could not possibly be > > > > > evidence regarding it, one way or the other.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Give me a scintilla of evidence, and I am ready to jump at them.
Of the origin of the name agnostic to describe this attitude, Huxley gave the following account:[18]
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When I reached intellectual maturity and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist, or a pantheist; a materialist or an idealist; Christian or a freethinker; I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer; until, at last, I came to the conclusion that I had neither art nor part with any of these denominations, except the last.^ If they do they are neither agnostics nor atheists--they > > are theists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If they do they are neither agnostics nor atheists--they are theists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If they do they are neither agnostics nor atheists--they > are theists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.The one thing in which most of these good people were agreed was the one thing in which I differed from them.^ And for bad people to do good things, that takes religion.
  • How I became an agnostic | Stephen Bates | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

^ However, convincing yourself of these things in the comfortable modern world we live in now is an impossible sell, not merely a challenging one.

^ There is a big difference between these gods and the one and only God, the one "omnipresent" and "all-knowing".

.They were quite sure they had attained a certain "gnosis,"–had, more or less successfully, solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble.^ (I myself am not part of such a church, nor can I say they’re the full answer, or even whether they solve this problem but create others, like more legalism.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The "something" is more or less up to the believer in question, but occaisionally they'll write a book about it or start a cult.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ In effect people are less hostile to agnostics because they think they will be able to convert them more easily.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

So I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of "agnostic." .It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the "gnostic" of Church history, who professed to know so much about the very things of which I was ignorant.^ Now, intelligent men, who are not frightened, whose brains have not been paralyzed by fear, know that the sacred story of creation was written by an ignorant savage.
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ If any of them came to my classes, they might very well turn to atheism or agnosticism anyway.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Well, I don't know about agnosticism but atheism is very much like a religion.
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

.To my great satisfaction the term took.^ As was to be expected, he chose the former alternative; and I may express my great satisfaction at finding that there is one spot of common ground on which both he and I stand.
  • Agnosticism and Christianity (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Huxley's agnosticism is believed to be a natural consequence of the intellectual and philosophical conditions of the 1860s, when clerical intolerance was trying to suppress scientific discoveries which appeared to clash with a literal reading of the Book of Genesis and other established Jewish and Christian doctrines.^ I am God and I helped design and construct the universe, just as every other natural philosopher or scientist or technician has done in the past, the present and will do so in the future.

^ I've read a fairly interesting book called "The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ?
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The religious philosophers, not satisfied with the tradition of your forefathers, and doctrine of your priests (in which I willingly acquiesce), indulge a rash curiosity, in trying how far they can establish religion upon the principles of reason; and they thereby excite, instead of satisfying, the doubts, which naturally arise from a diligent and scrutinous enquiry.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

.Agnosticism should not, however, be confused with natural theology, deism, pantheism, or other science positive forms of theism.^ Do not confuse this question with whether evolution is true or not , since we Christians are not denying the physical science of evolution that looks at physical changes since the amoeba, prokaryote first replicating organism, or simplest replicating life form however you define it.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Simply redefining religious (and other) debate to remove this position doesn't seem to have any value and confuses the debate.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > > > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > > > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.By way of clarification, Huxley states, "In matters of the intellect, follow your reason as far as it will take you, without regard to any other consideration.^ You can't have one without the other.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ There are other ways to prove God exists, but the Proof is simple and sweet, and based on pure logic without any assumptions.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Here’s my philosophical, existential questions for you regarding your position on human beings in light of evolutionary theory.” .
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

And negatively: In matters of the intellect, do not pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrable" (Huxley, Agnosticism, 1889). .Although A. W. Momerie has noted that this is nothing but a definition of honesty, Huxley's usual definition goes beyond mere honesty to insist that these metaphysical issues are fundamentally unknowable.^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to Unknowability and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The term agnostic was coined by Huxley and it simply refers to > Unknowability > > > > and nothing else.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Robert G. Ingersoll

Robert G. Ingersoll.
Robert G. Ingersoll, an Illinois lawyer and politician who evolved into a well-known and sought-after orator in 19th century America, has been referred to as the "Great Agnostic."
In an 1896 lecture titled Why I Am An Agnostic, Ingersoll related why he was an agnostic:
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Is there a supernatural power—an arbitrary mind—an enthroned God—a supreme will that sways the tides and currents of the world—to which all causes bow?^ There is no point to our existence if God is all powerful.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Then I asked myself the question: Is there a supernatural power -- an arbitrary mind -- an enthroned God -- a supreme will that sways the tides and currents of the world -- to which all causes bow?
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Don't be so arrogant to think something happens all by itself without a cause, for that goes contrary to everything we observe in the natural world.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

I do not deny. I do not know—but I do not believe. .I believe that the natural is supreme—that from the infinite chain no link can be lost or broken—that there is no supernatural power that can answer prayer—no power that worship can persuade or change—no power that cares for man.^ I believe that the natural is supreme -- that from the infinite chain no link can be lost or broken -- that there is no supernatural power that can answer prayer -- no power that worship can persuade or change -- no power that cares for man.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ I believe that the natural is supreme -- that from the infinite chain no link can be lost or broken -- that there is no supernatural power that can  answer prayer -- no power that worship can persuade or change -- no power that cares for man.
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ I can not, do not, believe in anything that there is no evidence for.

.I believe that with infinite arms Nature embraces the all—that there is no interference—no chance—that behind every event are the necessary and countless causes, and that beyond every event will be and must be the necessary and countless effects.^ There had been no interference from without.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ There is always a cause to the effects in nature.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ I can not, do not, believe in anything that there is no evidence for.

Is there a God? I do not know. Is man immortal? I do not know. .One thing I do know, and that is, that neither hope, nor fear, belief, nor denial, can change the fact.^ One thing I do know, and that is, that neither hope, nor fear, belief, nor denial, can change the fact.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ I love the fact Bill Maher tore embedded belief systems a new one using the simplest of approaches: asking basic questions.
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They can even think > > > (or hope) that a god exists, but unless they can honestly say they > > > hold a positive belief in one, they're atheists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

It is as it is, and it will be as it must be.
In the conclusion of the speech he simply sums up the agnostic position as:
We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know.

Bertrand Russell

Bertrand Russell
.Bertrand Russell's pamphlet, Why I Am Not a Christian, based on a speech delivered in 1927 and later included in a book of the same title, is considered a classic statement of agnosticism.^ Bank of Wisdom Box 926, Louisville, KY 40201 10 WHY I AM AN AGNOSTIC. We had the Book of Martyrs, showing that Christians had for many centuries imitated the God they worshiped.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

.The essay briefly lays out Russell’s objections to some of the arguments for the existence of God before discussing his moral objections to Christian teachings.^ They have had a hard time of it before man and during man's existence which is why God never gave them God-consciousness for that would hardly be fair.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Since even you don't > claim that that is the case, no argument for the existence of God is > sound.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I am aware that the assumed instinctive belief in God has been used by many persons as an argument for his existence.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

.He then calls upon his readers to "stand on their own two feet and look fair and square at the world," with a "fearless attitude and a free intelligence."^ YEP, it’s a typo – looks like you have two of your own, LOL – “Philippians” and “incidentally” Report comment to moderator .
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ We looked upon this world of warring individuals, warring theological systems, and inexplicable calamity, with deep skepticism.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They who claim to own their fellow-men, look down into the pit and forget the justice that should rule the world."
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

.In 1939, Russell gave a lecture on The existence and nature of God, in which he characterized himself as an atheist.^ If you're an atheist it doesn't matter if you aren't > sure of the existence of god.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If you're an atheist it doesn't matter if you aren't sure of the existence of god.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ An atheist lacks a belief in gods but believes that their existence is > > > unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

He said:
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The existence and nature of God is a subject of which I can discuss only half.^ Unknowability agnostics, who say that not only is there no evidence > > relevant to the issue of God's existence but that there could be none.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Unknowability agnostics, who say that not only is there no evidence > > > > > > > > > relevant to the issue of God's existence but that there could be none.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Unknowability agnostics, who say that not only is there no evidence > > > > > > relevant to the issue of God's existence but that there could be none.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.If one arrives at a negative conclusion concerning the first part of the question, the second part of the question does not arise; and my position, as you may have gathered, is a negative one on this matter.^ One will get somewhat conclusive answers, the other will just get more questions.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Why does it matter if one guy believes in UFOs?
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They may view the issue as so abstract and removed from human experience > > > > that it is impossible that we should have any evidence regarding it, one > > > > way or the other, so the matter is essentially unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

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However, later in the same lecture, discussing modern non-anthropomorphic concepts of God, Russell states:
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That sort of God is, I think, not one that can actually be disproved, as I think the omnipotent and benevolent creator can.^ Roger_Penrose#Religious_views "One can imagine that God created the universe at literally any time in the past.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They can even think > > > (or hope) that a god exists, but unless they can honestly say they > > > hold a positive belief in one, they're atheists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They can even think > > > > (or hope) that a god exists, but unless they can honestly say they > > > > hold a positive belief in one, they're atheists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

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In Russell's 1947 pamphlet, Am I An Atheist Or An Agnostic? (subtitled A Plea For Tolerance In The Face Of New Dogmas), he ruminates on the problem of what to call himself:
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As a philosopher, if I were speaking to a purely philosophic audience I should say that I ought to describe myself as an Agnostic, because I do not think that there is a conclusive argument by which one can prove that there is not a God.^ For example, I can prove giraffes exist by pointing to one and saying, There it is!
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I think it is faith to describe 'god' as a supernatural unquantifiable being (whether you believe or not) Science, which by definition confines itself to observable quantifiable phenomenon is simply not equipt to examine the theory that there exist something that is unquantifiable.
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

^ "I call myself an atheist instead of an agnostic only because there are proofs that God does not exist.": Dr. Ted Drange, a philosopher of religion and ex-Professor Emeritus at West Virginia University Reply to author Forward .
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.On the other hand, if I am to convey the right impression to the ordinary man in the street I think I ought to say that I am an Atheist, because when I say that I cannot prove that there is not a God, I ought to add equally that I cannot prove that there are not the Homeric gods.^ Maybe man’s concept of God is anthropomorphic because man’s thinking is anthropomorphic.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ What man cannot do (save Himself) God can!
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ They are making the claim that the matter of God's > > > > > existence is essentially unknowable and that there could not possibly be > > > > > evidence regarding it, one way or the other.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

In his 1953 essay, What Is An Agnostic? Russell states:
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An agnostic thinks it impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which Christianity and other religions are concerned.^ It is impossible to know if a god exists of if it doesn't.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I think Quan has gone the other route and found it easier to agree with religous friends instead of know the issues.
  • Daylight Atheism > A Memo to Fence-Sitting Agnostics 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.daylightatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ I think it is an unfair and overly broad characterization to say “organized black life” involves extreme christian religiosity and anti-semitism.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

Or, if not impossible, at least impossible at the present time.
However, later in the essay, Russell says:
I think that if I heard a voice from the sky predicting all that was going to happen to me during the next twenty-four hours, including events that would have seemed highly improbable, and if all these events then produced to happen, I might perhaps be convinced at least of the existence of some superhuman intelligence.

Criticism of agnosticism

Agnosticism is criticized from a variety of standpoints. .Some religious thinkers see agnosticism as a limitation of the mind's capacity to know reality other than material objects.^ Why should physical reality be made up of anything other than process?
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Unlike his conservative, Christian wife and family, he has come to know that he is agnostic–he believes that the truth about the afterlife, deities and ultimate reality is unknowable.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I never really stopped believing in some kind of divine force, though I began to believe it was defiantly more intrinsic than I had been led to believe.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

.Some atheists also criticize the use of the term agnosticism as functionally indistinguishable from atheism.^ Perhaps it would be an idea if when we use some terms that others disagree on, we actually define that word for the benefit of the reader.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Someone asked me about a term I used to describe my agnosticism vis certain > > > > types of gods.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Religious criticism

Many theistic thinkers repudiate the validity of agnosticism, or certain forms of agnosticism. .Religious scholars in the three Abrahamic religions affirm the possibility of knowledge, even of metaphysical realities such as God and the soul,[21] because human intelligence, they assert, has a non-material, spiritual element.^ Theists can > > > > > believe and have no evidence but they can still claim that they don't > > > > > actually know whether a god exists (many say they know but they "know" > > > > > because they say they "feel it inside".
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ There cannot be an "I don't know" that sustains a god of > > which there is no knowledge and at the same time permits > > a belief in such.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ A really civilized man, a really civilized woman, must hold such a God in abhorrence and contempt.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

.They affirm that “not being able to see or hold some specific thing does not necessarily negate its existence,” as in the case of gravity, entropy, or reason and thought.^ The critiques and methods being employed by atheists, and the scope of activities, simply don't deserve the reaction much less severe descriptions - unless "rabid" now means to write some books and hold reasoned discussions.
  • Daylight Atheism > A Memo to Fence-Sitting Agnostics 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.daylightatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Presumably there is some > > > > minimum amount such that any lesser amount would still call for us to deny > > > > the existence of the thing.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They would probably ask me to provide some proof of my ability to execute these things.
  • Pajamas Media » Wright, Ayers, and Obama: An Agnostic Quotes the Bible 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC pajamasmedia.com [Source type: Original source]

However, this argument has two main flaws. .Firstly, it only asserts that the non-material is possible—this is precisely what agnostics believe (that you cannot prove the existence of God).^ A theist believes in gods but believes that their existence is unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ 'God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable.'
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Why do you believe in a God?
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

.Secondly, simply because one non-material idea exists as a force does not mean that another idea necessarily exists.^ He simply has no > > > belief in one because there is nothing to hang that belief on.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ It's probably because we need to look at a case where the two words would be substitutes, forcing the user to pick one or the other.

^ He simply has no > > belief in one because there is nothing to hang that belief on.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.For instance, just because gravity exists does not entail that that wizardry, unicorns, or fate exists.^ Just because a person believes there to be no gods does not automatically mean they have an obligation to convert others to this point of view.
  • Daylight Atheism > A Memo to Fence-Sitting Agnostics 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.daylightatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ G=God exists Just because I'm not given G as an assumption doesn't mean ~G is true .
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Atheism is just “I don’t believe he does exist”.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

[22]
Blaise Pascal
.Religious scholars, such as Brown, Tacelli, and Kreeft, argue that agnosticism does not take into account the numerous evidence of his existence that God has placed in his creation.^ God does not need time to exist to bring time into existence.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ In such a case, it might > > be argued, the rational stance to take for anyone aware of the evidence is > > that of withholding judgment on the matter.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They are making the claim that the matter of God's > > > > > existence is essentially unknowable and that there could not possibly be > > > > > evidence regarding it, one way or the other.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[22] .And for this, Peter Kreeft and Ronald Tacelli cite 20 arguments for God’s existence.^ Since even you don't > claim that that is the case, no argument for the existence of God is > sound.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I am aware that the assumed instinctive belief in God has been used by many persons as an argument for his existence.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The good news for you is that none of the arguments for the existence > OF God are sound either [grin].
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[23] .They assert that agnosticism's demand for scientific evidence through laboratory testing is in effect asking God, the supreme being, to become man’s servant.^ LL: All agnostics should be able to state whether they believe in god or not.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Personal accounts are not scientific fact, but they are a form of evidence.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ So I'd argue that reports of interaction with God are likely to reflect experiences interpreted in the context of belief, rather than being any kind of evidence in favor of God.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

[24] .They argue that the question of God should be treated differently from other knowable objects in that "this question regards not that which is below us, but that which is above us."^ They may view the issue as so abstract and removed from human experience > > > > that it is impossible that we should have any evidence regarding it, one > > > > way or the other, so the matter is essentially unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ LL: All agnostics should be able to state whether they believe in god or not.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They > > may view the issue as so abstract and removed from human experience that it > > is impossible that we should have any evidence regarding it, one way or the > > other, so the matter is essentially unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[25] .Christian Philosopher Blaise Pascal argued that, even if there were truly no evidence for God, agnostics should consider what is now known as Pascal’s Wager: the infinite expected value of acknowledging God is always greater than the finite expected value of not acknowledging his existence, and thus it is a safer “bet” to choose God.^ There is no evidence whatsoever that God does exist.
  • Agnosticism was what saved my faith | Nesrine Malik | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

^ "There is no more scientific proof of the existence of God than of the Easter Bunny" .
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Again, I'm not arguing that God should be considered more likely than the Easter Bunny.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

[26]
.According to Joseph Ratzinger, later Pope Benedict XVI, agnosticism, more specifically strong agnosticism, is reasoning that limits and contradicts itself in claiming the power of reason to know scientific truth, but not religious or philosophical truths.^ Unlike his conservative, Christian wife and family, he has come to know that he is agnostic–he believes that the truth about the afterlife, deities and ultimate reality is unknowable.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If you knew more about the scientific theory of evolution, perhaps you religious philosophy would be shattered.

^ In order for you to support your claim that "One can also be an agnostic atheist" is false, what you have to produce is a reason to concider that both caracteristics are mutually exclusive.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[25][27] .He blames the exclusion of reasoning from religion and ethics for the dangerous pathologies of religion and science such as human and ecological disasters.^ Yet she produces no reasoning to give such respect exclusively to religion.
  • Daylight Atheism > A Memo to Fence-Sitting Agnostics 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.daylightatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Our most holy religion is founded on Faith, not on reason; and it is a sure method of exposing it to put it to such a trial as it is, by no means, fitted to endure.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Dan G Cass Silva wrote: and the christian religion does not value the human soul Indeed, Cass; the main reason for this being, that no religion (nor science, politics or other 'governing body') understands what the 'soul' represents in the 'greater being' of things.

[25][27][28] “Agnosticism,” said .Ratzinger, “is always the fruit of a refusal of that knowledge which is in fact offered to man [...] The knowledge of God has always existed.”[27] He asserted that agnosticism is a choice of comfort, pride, dominion, and utility over truth, and is opposed by the following attitudes: the keenest self-criticism, humble listening to the whole of existence, the persistent patience and self-correction of the scientific method, a readiness to be purified by the truth.^ Throughout my youth I have always questioned the existence of a “God.” At age 13 and 16, I short bouts of atheism.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

^ God knew man would rebel as soon as he was given God-consciousness, but He still had to do the right thing and warn Adam and Even not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Types of Agnostics > > Zero-data agnostics, who allow that it is possible to know whether or not > > God exists, but no one does in fact know it for the simple reason that there > > is zero data regarding the matter.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[25]
.According to some theistic scholars, agnosticism is impossible in actual practice, since a person can live only either as if God did not exist (etsi Deus non daretur), or as if God did exist (etsi Deus daretur).^ It is impossible to know if a god exists of if it doesn't.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Hard agnosticism is actually quite a militant and argumentative > > > position that involves concepts of naturalism, the supernatural, how > > > knowledge is achieved and other things related to the impossibility of > > > knowing whether or not 'god exists' is either meaningful or possible > > > to discuss.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Hard agnosticism is actually quite a militant and argumentative > > position that involves concepts of naturalism, the supernatural, how > > knowledge is achieved and other things related to the impossibility of > > knowing whether or not 'god exists' is either meaningful or possible > > to discuss.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[29][30][31] .These scholars believe that each day in a person’s life is an unavoidable step towards death, and thus not to decide for or against God, whom they view as the all-encompassing foundation, purpose, and meaning of life, is to decide in favor of atheism.^ They knew that it was necessary to believe these things and to love God.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ For instance, you might tell yourself that this could be the last day of your friend's life, or that at any moment they could be called home by their family, and so on.

^ LL: All agnostics should be able to state whether they believe in god > > or not.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

[26][29]

Atheist criticism

.According to atheist Richard Dawkins, a distinction between agnosticism and atheism is unwieldy and depends on how close to zero we are willing to rate the existence of any given god-like entity.^ Thats how I am with the existence of God.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Close How I became an agnostic .
  • How I became an agnostic | Stephen Bates | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

^ Someone can believe in the existence of a God without revendicating > > knowledge and actually stating its impossibility and be willing to > > recognize that position.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Since in practice it is not worth contrasting a zero probability with a probability that is nearly indistinguishable from zero, he prefers to categorize himself as a "de facto atheist".[32]

See also

Notes

  1. ^ Carroll, Robert (2009-02-22). "agnosticism". The Skeptic's Dictionary. skepdic.com. http://skepdic.com/agnosticism.html. Retrieved 2009-10-17. 
  2. ^ "The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy - Protagoras (c. 490 - c. 420 BCE)". http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/protagor.htm. Retrieved 2008-10-06. "While the pious might wish to look to the gods to provide absolute moral guidance in the relativistic universe of the Sophistic Enlightenment, that certainty also was cast into doubt by philosophic and sophistic thinkers, who pointed out the absurdity and immorality of the conventional epic accounts of the gods. Protagoras' prose treatise about the gods began 'Concerning the gods, I have no means of knowing whether they exist or not or of what sort they may be. Many things prevent knowledge including the obscurity of the subject and the brevity of human life.'" 
  3. ^ Patri, Umesh and Prativa Devi. "Progress of Atheism in India: A Historical Perspective". Atheist Centre 1940-1990 Golden Jubilee. Vijayawada, February 1990. Retrieved 2007-04-02.
  4. ^ Major Religions Ranked by Size
  5. ^ http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Agnostics
  6. ^ http://www.surefish.co.uk/culture/features/pullman_interview.htm
  7. ^ a b Agnosticism & Thomas Henry Huxley
  8. ^ American Heritage Dictionary, 2000, under agnostic
  9. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=97DaE6BzKTsC&pg=PA41
  10. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=97DaE6BzKTsC&pg=PA42
  11. ^ Oxford English Dictionary, Additions Series, 1993
  12. ^ Hume, David, "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding" (1748)
  13. ^ Agnosticism, II., Catholic Encyclopedia, New Advent. [1]
  14. ^ Agnosticism, VIII., Catholic Encyclopedia, New Advent.[2]
  15. ^ Cline, Austin. "Atheism vs. Agnosticism: What's the Difference? Are they Alternatives to Each Other?". http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm. Retrieved 2006-09-24. 
  16. ^ [3] Drange, Theodore (1998). "Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism". Internet Infidels. Retrieved on 2007-03-26.
  17. ^ http://www.philosophyonline.co.uk/tok/scepticism8.htm
  18. ^ Huxley, Thomas. Collected Essays. pp. 237–239. ISBN 1-85506-922-9. 
  19. ^ Russell, Bertrand. Collected Papers, Vol 10. pp. 255. 
  20. ^ Collected Papers, Vol. 10, p.258
  21. ^ Shed Muhammad Naquib Al-Attas, Journal of Islamic Philosophy, p 21-22.
  22. ^ a b Laurence B. Brown (2007). "Religion of Islam: Agnosticism". http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/641/. Retrieved 2008-05-25. 
  23. ^ Twenty Arguments for the Existence of God, from the Handbook of Christian Apologetics by Peter Kreeft and Fr. Ronald Tacelli, SJ, Intervarsity Press, 1994.
  24. ^ Ratzinger, Joseph (2007). Jesus of Nazareth. Random House. 
  25. ^ a b c d Ratzinger, Joseph (2005). The Yes of Jesus Christ: Spiritual Exercises in Faith, Hope, and Love. Cross Roads Publishing. 
  26. ^ a b "Argument from Pascal's Wager". 2007. http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/pascals-wager.htm. Retrieved 2008-05-25. 
  27. ^ a b c Ratzinger, Joseph (2004). Truth and Tolerance: Christian Belief And World Religions. Ignatius Press. 
  28. ^ Benedict XVI, Address at the University of Regensburg 2006
  29. ^ a b Sandro Magister (2007). "Habermas writes to Ratzinger and Ruini responds". http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/125081?eng=y. Retrieved 2008-05-25. 
  30. ^ "Why can’t I live my life as an agnostic?". 2007. http://www.faithfacts.org/search-for-truth/questions-of-christians/why-cant-I-live-my-life-as-an-agnostic. Retrieved 2008-05-25. 
  31. ^ Ratzinger, Joseph (2006). Christianity and the Crisis of Cultures. Ignatius Press. ISBN 9781586171421. 
  32. ^ The God Delusion

References

  • Man's Place In Nature, Thomas Huxley, ISBN 0-375-75847-X
  • Why I Am Not a Christian, Bertrand Russell, ISBN 0-671-20323-1
  • Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, David Hume, ISBN 0-14-044536-6
  • Language, Truth, and Logic, A.J. Ayer, ISBN 0-486-20010-8
  • Atheism, the Case Against God, George H. Smith, ISBN 0-87975-124-X
  • CIA estimate of religious affiliation by country uses "other", "none", or "unspecified" as descriptive terms

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Quotes

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From Wikiquote

.Agnosticism (from the Greek a, meaning "without" and gnosis, "knowledge", translating to unknown) is the philosophical view that the truth value of certain claims — particularly theological claims regarding metaphysics, afterlife or the existence of God, god(s), or deities — is unknown or (possibly) inherently unknowable.^ A theist believes in gods but believes that their existence is unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I don’t believe in God, but I also don’t claim certain knowledge on the matter.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ AGNOSTICISM Philosophical view that truth of claims like the existence of gods is unknown or unknowable Word from Greek a , meaning without, and gnosis , meaning knowledge Noted agnostics include Francis Crick, Sir David Attenborough, Carl Sagan and Warren Buffett .
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.Agnosticism is not to be confused with religious views opposing the doctrine of gnosis and Gnosticism — these are religious concepts that are not generally related to agnosticism.^ Deciding to be an atheist or a religious believer simply implies a closed mind to the possibility of the opposing point of view.
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ In the confusion of religious controversies and wars, new doubts had risen, new views of life had begun to prevail, and new theories had been devised.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ In our view, "the popular concept of agnosticism" means people don't have to take a stand on whether gods exist.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.Agnostics claim either that it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge or, alternatively, that while certainty may be possible, they personally have no knowledge.^ They were absolutely certain.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ They make absolutely no sense.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Garry, newcastle Agnosticism is Faith without Dogma Chris Daws, Spalding, UK To know absolutely that there is no God one must have infinite knowledge.
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.Agnosticism in both cases involves some form of skepticism.^ This sometimes takes the form of Kant's thing-in-itself, and sometimes is an attempt to resolve the universal into indeterminate qualities, but both lead immediately to agnosticism.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The points raised by Mangum and Dan are very well subject to the scrutiny by agnostics, skeptics and atheists; as they can be examined both for consistency and prevalence in the natural environments.

^ In my opinion, both groups of people deserve not ridicule, but some skepticism towards their beliefs.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

Sourced

  • I say that I am an agnostic. .People think that's pusillanimous and covering your bets.^ You better start asking questions and considering what people like Maher and Charles are accusing you of being and why they think your faith is nonsense.
    • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ It is better to remain silent and have people think you an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
    • Agnosticism was what saved my faith | Nesrine Malik | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

    .But it's not based on any belief or yearning for an afterlife but on the fact that we actually know so little about the cosmos.^ So when we are talking about god-belief the distinction is a little more significant.
    • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Sometimes I think I forget about the little brat - the hall monitor I see often, and the know-it-all as well, but the little brat ...

    ^ Aye Judy, I know a little about evolution.

    .It is a tribute to the complexity and, at our present stage of development, the unknowability of the universe.^ The majority of the configuration is in on of > > the base folders, shared across multiple environments (including > > development, and more importantly, our testing and staging environments).
    • Nabble - ALT.NET Yahoo Group - Environment Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC old.nabble.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

    ^ While there is obviously still a lot that we don't know about the universe and life, our present scientific understanding of the world is impressive by any standards.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ The majority of the configuration is in on of > the base folders, shared across multiple environments (including > development, and more importantly, our testing and staging environments).
    • Nabble - ALT.NET Yahoo Group - Environment Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC old.nabble.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

    • Martin Amis, in "The New Amis" in The Telegraph (13 May 2000)
  • Belief is otiose; reality is sufficiently awesome as it stands. .
    • Martin Amis, "The voice of the lonely crowd", The Guardian, 1 June 2002
  • I am a skeptic about everything, including God and atheism.^ And when we have a “natural” explanation for everything, then, like Laplace said to Napoleon about God, science will claim it has “no need of that hypothesis.” .
    • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Foster mentions three types of atheism:(1) dogmatic atheism, which denies that any God exists; (2) skeptical atheism, which doubts that any God exists; (3) critical atheism, which says that if a God exists there is no evidence of it.
    • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

    ^ And, interestingly, you try to disprove my contention that your skepticism about the supernatural played a role in your rejecting the belief in God by ...
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    I am not certain about issues of cosmology. .Sometimes I believe that our universe is the result of random forces.^ Scientists say this great force of gravity is so weak, gravitrons escape out-of the universe somewhere, which I believe to be to the 2nd and 3rd Heavens above.
    • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

    ^ We found that as soon as we were able to lay aside our prejudice and express even a willingness to believe in a Power greater than ourselves, we commence to get results.
    • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ The result of our willingness to believe and a way of life based upon that belief is the removal of our alcoholic problem and a restoration to sanity.
    • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

    .Other times I believe that there must be some order or purpose, though I do not begin to understand what or who it could be.^ Even the concept of time is destroyed because there is a being that apparently extends well beyond the beginning of time, which doesnt make much sense with modern science.
    • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ In order to understand this, it is necessary to realize there is a difference between the texts.

    ^ They are making the claim that the matter of God's > > > > existence is essentially unknowable and that there could not possibly be > > > > evidence regarding it, one way or the other.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    .I do not expect that these cosmic doubts will ever be resolved in my mind.^ Near my journey's end, I find myself in a condition of something more than mere doubt about these matters.
    • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

    ^ These sermons made but faint impressions on my mind.
    • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
    • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

    .I am more certain that the miraculous stories that form the basis of most religious beliefs are myths.^ Interestingly, I suspect that most atheists are also agnostics in this sense of not claiming certain knowledge about their beliefs.
    • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Note that as society has become more liberal, religious belief and its influence would appear to have waned throughout history.
    • Agnosticism was what saved my faith | Nesrine Malik | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

    .Yet I respect the Bible and enjoy reading and teaching it.^ Read: 186 times Last updated: 4/28/08 Rated: Not rated yet Tags: agnosticism , apologetics , atheist , bible , christianity , doubt .
    • Lists & Guides tagged with agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.amazon.com [Source type: General]

    ^ We have a small student body and yet in my 6th through 8th grade classes, not one of them had read the Bible all the way through.
    • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

    .Indeed, I find it even more fascinating as a human creation than as a divine revelation.^ The creator is always more complicated than the creation.
    • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator" (Rom.
    • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

    ^ I simply find a more human (and biased) discussion to be more stimulating than its faux-objective counterpart, and that is why I offer it here in the hope that someone else does, too.
    • deadmetaphors.com :: elvis's konspiracy korner - 'better living through ecstatic agnosticism' 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC deadmetaphors.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

    .I consider myself a committed Jew, but I do not believe that being a Jew requires belief in the supernatural.^ I have posited a more nefarious reason: True Believers accuse atheism of being a belief system to confuse the argument and anger atheists.

    ^ No, the reason you don't believe in supernatural things or God is -- > > > in large part -- because you hold beliefs that I do not, you believe > > > that there cannot exist supernatural entities being the largest one.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ When it comes to an supernatural being I am without belief--not agnostic--without belief.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    .When I attend synagogue, as I often do, or conduct Sabbath, Passover, or Chanukah services at home, I recite prayers.^ If he has been attending church every Sunday and prayer service every Wednesday, a sudden disappearance will guarantee some sort of prying confrontation.
    • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

    I am comfortable with these apparent contradictions. .I am part of a long tradition that links to my heritage through the words and melodies of prayer.^ These whores are part and parcel of a long tradition of Black on Black exploitation.
    • Pajamas Media » Wright, Ayers, and Obama: An Agnostic Quotes the Bible 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC pajamasmedia.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ If you think my use of that word entails some sort of absolute certainty on my part, or that I think I can prove the non-existence of god, that’s your problem.
    • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

    .Indeed, it is while praying that I experience my greatest doubts about God, and it is while looking at the stars that I make the leap of faith.^ They are theists if they > > > > believe, even with doubts about the existence of a god.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ I hope this is helpful to anyone doubting their faith or even someone just curious about life without God.
    • Lists & Guides tagged with agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.amazon.com [Source type: General]

    ^ Once we are willing and make the decision to try to build a relationshipwith God we are given techniques that when practiced repeatedly produce a body of successful spiritual experiences the result of which allows us to develop a faith that works.
    • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

    But it is not faith in the empirical truths of religious stories or in the authority of hierarchical religious organizations. .If there is a governing force, He (or She or It) is certainly not in touch with those who purport to be speaking on His behalf.^ As I said before, the world can be largely divided into three camps: Those who believe in a God, those who believe there is no God, and those who do not hold either belief.
    • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

    ^ There's a certain kind of skeptic who has no patience for the official consensus, especially if it has the imprimatur of a government, or worse, the United Nations.
    • deadmetaphors.com :: elvis's konspiracy korner - 'better living through ecstatic agnosticism' 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC deadmetaphors.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

    ^ But anyone interpreting the universe's metaphysical creative force in human terms is missing the point just as much as those who deny it's there in the first place.
    • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

    • Alan Dershowitz, in "Taking Disbelief out of the Closet" in Free Inquiry, Vol. .19, (Summer 1999)
  • One should not have the arrogance to declare that God does not exist.^ The only argument "agnostics" can use is that existing evidence doesn't allow us to convincingly dismiss one or two particular gods of their choosing.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ They can even think > (or hope) that a god exists, but unless they can honestly say they > hold a positive belief in one, they're atheists.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ For the millionth and one time - atheism is simply the rejection of the idea that gods exist.
    • How I became an agnostic | Stephen Bates | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

    .
    • Umberto Eco, quoted in "Belief or Nonbelief? : A Confrontation By Umberto Eco and Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini" in The Los Angeles Times (18 March 2000)
  • I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic.^ Your position is to turn agnostics into atheists by changing what they take these terms to mean, rather than changing the beliefs that agnostics have.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ The Los Angeles Times recounts U.S. Geological Survey seismologist Lucy Jones attending a FEMA emergency preparedness workshop in August 2001.
    • deadmetaphors.com :: elvis's konspiracy korner - 'better living through ecstatic agnosticism' 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC deadmetaphors.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

    ^ Is it your belief that it's more humane to let people remain as agnostics, even though it's false, rather than progressing to atheism?
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    .I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure — that is all that agnosticism means.^ My agnosticism means I don't know, so I don't bother worrying about it.
    • Agnosticism was what saved my faith | Nesrine Malik | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

    ^ How many of you actually know about all the community based organizations set up and run by Trinity?” .
    • Pajamas Media » Wright, Ayers, and Obama: An Agnostic Quotes the Bible 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC pajamasmedia.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ It is not saying that we will NEVER know which side is right, which is what agnostic really means, so people are using the term incorrectly when talking about science.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    .
  • When I reached intellectual maturity, and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist or a pantheist, a materialist or an idealist, a Christian or a freethinker, I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer.^ Henceforward, I might hope to hear no more of the assertion that we are necessarily Materialists, Idealists, Atheists, Theists, or any other ists, if experience had led me to think that the proved falsity of a statement was any guarantee against its repetition.
    • Agnosticism and Christianity (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Then, when teaching comes, it’s baby lessons, stuff we’ve learned in Sunday School and will learn many times more by the time we’re out of youth group.
    • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ I always find myself pondering why atheists and theists alike take to calling us "fence sitters" and "intellectual wimps" to demean us.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    .The one thing on which most of these good people were agreed was the one thing in which I differed from them.^ It seems to mean different things to different people.
    • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

    ^ However, convincing yourself of these things in the comfortable modern world we live in now is an impossible sell, not merely a challenging one.

    ^ There is a big difference between these gods and the one and only God, the one "omnipresent" and "all-knowing".

    .They were quite sure they had attained a certain "gnosis" — had more or less successfully, solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure that I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble.^ From the atheist perspective, what we’re really confronting in the paradoxes and perplexities of existence are not mysteries at all, but just very complicated material problems that are not yet solved.

    ^ Surely agnostics are sitting on the fence if they cannot admit to the unlikely existence of a being such as God?
    • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

    ^ (I myself am not part of such a church, nor can I say they’re the full answer, or even whether they solve this problem but create others, like more legalism.
    • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

    • Thomas Huxley, in ''Christianity and Agnosticism: A Controversy (1889)
  • I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of "agnostic." It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the "gnostic" of Church history, who professed to know so much about the very things of which I was ignorant. .To my great satisfaction the term took.^ As was to be expected, he chose the former alternative; and I may express my great satisfaction at finding that there is one spot of common ground on which both he and I stand.
    • Agnosticism and Christianity (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

    .
    • Thomas Huxley, in ''Christianity and Agnosticism: A Controversy (1889)
  • Agnosticism is not properly described as a "negative" creed, nor indeed as a creed of any kind, except in so far as it expresses absolute faith in the validity of a principle which is as much ethical as intellectual.^ Much of our youth is intellectually unprepared to deal with the assaults which come from atheistic and agnostic presuppositions in academia.They want to have “fun” but they do not want to think.
    • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ As this concept was so clearly set forth by Huxley, > it > > > can unequivocally be found to express the essence of agnosticism.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ As this concept was so clearly set forth by Huxley, it > > > > can unequivocally be found to express the essence of agnosticism.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    .This principle may be stated in various ways, but they all amount to this: that it is wrong for a man to say that he is certain of the objective truth of any proposition unless he can produce evidence which logically justifies that certainty.^ They are all man-made.
    • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Essentially, you had two competing ideas: Cartesian epistemology that said that you could only know what was absolutely certain, followed on and in some sense co-ordinated with logical positivism that said that unless you had a grounding in a direct, observable experience you shouldn't in any way assent to that proposition.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ The authors, whose drinking patterns were so similiar to ours, state that they have also had these objections to leading a spritually based way of life.
    • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

    .This is what agnosticism asserts; and, in my opinion, it is all that is essential to agnosticism.^ In my opinion all religious and spiritual experiences can be explained scientifically.
    • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

    ^ It is my opinion that the popular concept of agnosticism is that it places the person off the thiest athiest spectrum.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    .
  • Agnosticism simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that for which he has no grounds for professing to believe.^ Agnostics are those who simply believe we will not know if god exists or not.
    • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ I simply do not know what to believe.
    • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Yes, but when someone says "I believe in god" you know for sure they're a nutter.
    • How I became an agnostic | Stephen Bates | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

    .
    • Thomas Henry Huxley, quoted in The Great Quotations‎ (1960) by George Seldes, p.^ Thomas Henry Huxley: A Reminiscence .
      • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]
      • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC cs.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]

      ^ Some Reminiscences of Thomas Henry Huxley .
      • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]
      • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC cs.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]

      ^ Marsh, O. C. Thomas Henry Huxley.
      • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]
      • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC cs.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]

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  • It's important to abolish the unconscious dogmatism that makes people think their way of looking at reality is the only sane way of viewing the world.^ Whether He did it that way or not is not really that important.
    • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Do I think that any of these languages correspond to reality in a privileged way, or can be used for predictive purposes?

    ^ If the only way you have to signal your trivia mastery is through face-to-face meetings with people from your city or region, you need to have a fair amount under your belt.

    .My goal is to try to get people into a state of generalized agnosticism, not agnosticism about God alone, but agnosticism about everything.^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ And when we have a “natural” explanation for everything, then, like Laplace said to Napoleon about God, science will claim it has “no need of that hypothesis.” .
    • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ In the same way, if you want to engage with people on whether it is reasonable for them to be an agnostic about gods existence, it doesn't seem reasonable to then redefine agnosticism in such a way that it no longer matches their beliefs, and then tell them their beliefs are wrong.
    • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

    .If one can only see things according to one's own belief system, one is destined to become virtually deaf, dumb, and blind.^ So, in my system, that means that these things are about belief.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ So, in > my system, that means that these things are about belief.
    • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

    ^ Not that I care one way or the other but, really, being taught to look at theories scientifically instead of blind belief might actually have some benefits.
    • FARK.com: (4292172) Jesus will not be riding his dinosaur in Texas 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

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.AGNOSTICISM. The term "agnostic" was invented by Huxley in 1869 to describe the philosophical and religious attitude of those who hold that we can have scientific or real knowledge of phenomena only, and that so far as what may lie behind phenomena is concerned - God, immortality, &c.^ "Immortal, invisible, God only wise!

^ The See also: TERM term " agnostic " was invented by See also: HUXLEY, THOMAS HENRY (1825–1895) Huxley in 1869 to describe the philosophical and religious) attitude of those who hold that we can have scientific or real knowledge of phenomena only, and that so far as what may See also: LIE, JONAS LAURITZ EDEMIL (1833—1908) LIE, MARIUS SOPHUS (1842–1899) lie behind phenomena is concerned— See also: GOD God , See also: IMMORTALITY (Lat.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Weak Agnosticism holds that God is unknown.
  • Whats is Agnostic Religion? | dennislee4 on Xanga 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC dennislee4.xanga.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

- there is no evidence which entitles us either to deny or affirm anything. .The attitude itself is as old as Scepticism; but the expressions "agnostic" and "agnosticism" were applied by Huxley to sum up his deductions from those contemporary developments of metaphysics with which the names of Hamilton ("the Unconditioned") and Herbert Spencer ("the Unknowable") were associated; and it is important, therefore, to fix precisely his own intellectual standpoint in the matter.^ But the terms "agnostic" and "agnosticism" were applied by Huxley to sum up his thoughts from that time's contemporary developments of metaphysics about the "unconditioned" (Hamilton) and the "unknowable" (Herbert Spencer).
  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]

^ The attitude itself is as old as Scepticism ; but the expressions "agnostic" and "agnosticism" were applied by Huxley to sum up his deductions from those contemporary developments of metaphysics with which the names of Hamilton ("the Unconditioned") and Herbert Spencer ("the Unknowable") were associated; and it is important, therefore, to fix precisely his own intellectual standpoint in the matter.

^ Of the origin of the name "agnostic" to cover this attitude, Huxley gave (Coll.
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Though Huxley only began to use the term "agnostic" in 1869, his opinions had taken shape some time before that date.
^ Though Huxley began to use the term "agnostic" in 1869, his opinions had taken shape some time before that date.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
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^ The terms agnosticism and agnostic were coined by Thomas Henry Huxley in 1869.
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^ Though Huxley only began to use the term " agnostic " in 1869, his opinions had taken shape some See also: TIME (0.
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.In a letter to Charles Kingsley (September 23, 1860) he wrote very fully concerning his beliefs: "I neither affirm nor deny the immortality of man.^ In a letter written in 1860, he wrote: .
  • What does agnostic mean? 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC hubpages.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In a letter to Charles Kingsley (September 23, 1860) he discussed his views extensively: .
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^ "I neither affirm nor deny the immortality of man.
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.I see no reason for believing it, but, on the other hand, I have no means of disproving it.^ I see no See also: REASON (Lat.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ HAND, FERDINAND GOTTHELF (1786-185r) hand , I have no means of disproving it .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ No, so that means you believe in afartism.
  • Ricodigo Blog 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC blog.ricodigo.com [Source type: Original source]

.I have no a priori objections to the doctrine.^ I have no a priori objections to the doctrine.
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^ I have no a priori objections to the doctrine."
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^ I have no a priori objections to the See also: DOCTRINE doctrine .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.No man who has to deal daily and hourly with nature can trouble himself about a priori difficulties.^ No man who has to See also: DEAL deal daily and hourly with nature can trouble himself about a priori difficulties .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ No man who has to deal daily and hourly with nature can trouble himself about a priori difficulties.
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^ A slick, sexy, action-packed series about a charming con-man who wants to make good, and everything that's getting in his way.
  • Penn Says : Penn Says- Agnostic vs. Atheist - Watch the full episode now. - Crackle 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC crackle.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.Give me such evidence as would justify me in believing in anything else, and I will believe that.^ Give me such evidence as would justify me in believing in anything else, and I will believe that .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Give me such evidence as would justify me in believing in anything else, and I will believe that.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
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  • Agnosticism - LoveToKnow 1911 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.1911encyclopedia.org [Source type: Original source]

^ I can not, do not, believe in anything that there is no evidence for.

Why should I not? .It is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter...^ It is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter"..
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
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  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]

^ It is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter...

^ If, as Huxley admits, even putting it with unnecessary force against himself,"the immortality of man is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter," the question then is, how far a critical analysis of our belief in the last-named doctrines will leave us in a position to regard them as the last stage in systematic thinking.

.

" .It is no use to talk to me of analogies and probabilities.^ In science, “truth” is not ever absolute but can be used to mean highly probable with no credible alternative.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

.I know what I mean when I say I believe in the law of the inverse squares, and I will not rest my life and my hopes upon weaker convictions.^ I know what I mean when I say I believe in the law of the inverse squares, and I will not rest my life and my hopes upon weaker convictions.

^ I believe you know what the Bible says...

^ I do not believe it will be tails, if that means I am saying I believe it will not be heads.
  • Agnostics, mental couch potatoes? 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC mwillett.org [Source type: Original source]

.
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"That my personality is the surest thing I know maybe true.
^ Knowing is a very personal thing.
  • Agnosticism – copping out? « Derren Brown Blog 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC derrenbrown.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ "That my personality is the surest thing I know maybe true.

^ "That my personality is the surest thing I know may be true.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]

.But the attempt to conceive what it is leads me into mere verbal subtleties.^ But the attempt to conceive what it is leads me into mere verbal subtleties.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
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  • Agnosticism - LoveToKnow 1911 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.1911encyclopedia.org [Source type: Original source]

^ This sometimes takes the form of Kant's thing-in-itself, and sometimes is an attempt to resolve the universal into indeterminate qualities, but both lead immediately to agnosticism.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

I have champed up all that chaff about the ego and the non-ego, noumena and phenomena, and all the rest of it, too often not to know that in attempting even to think of these questions, the human intellect flounders at once out of its depth." And again, to the same correspondent, the 5th of May 1863: "I have never had the least sympathy with the a priori reasons against orthodoxy, and I have by nature and disposition the greatest possible antipathy to all the atheistic and infidel school.
.Nevertheless I know that I am, in spite of myself, exactly what the Christian would call, and, so far as I can see, is justified in calling, atheist and infidel.^ Nevertheless I know that I am, in spite of myself, exactly what the See also: CHRISTIAN CHRISTIAN, WILLIAM (1608-1663) Christian would See also: CALL (from Anglo-Saxon ceallian, a common Teutonic word, cf.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ I would have considered myself christian.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I call myself an atheist.That is good enough by me.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

.I cannot see one shadow or tittle of evidence that the great unknown underlying the phenomenon of the universe stands to us in the relation of a Father - loves us and cares for us as Christianity asserts.^ Ore's, darkness) shadow or tittle of evidence that the See also: GREAT great unknown underlying the phenomenon of the universe stands to us in the relation of a See also: FATHER Father —loves us acrd cares for us as See also: CHRISTIANITY Christianity asserts .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ I cannot see one See also: SHADOW (0.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ I cannot see one shadow or tittle of evidence that the great unknown underlying the phenomenon of the universe stands to us in the relation of a Father - loves us and cares for us as Christianity asserts.

.So with regard to the other great Christian dogmas, immortality of soul and future state of rewards and punishments, what possible objection can I - who am compelled perforce to believe in the immortality of what we call Matter and Force, and in a very unmistakable present state of rewards and punishments for our deeds - have to these doctrines?^ So with regard to the other great Christian dogmas, immortality of soul and future state of rewards and punishments, what possible objection can I who am compelled perforce to believe in the immortality of what we call Matter and Force, and in a very unmistakable present state of rewards and punishments for our deeds have to these doctrines?
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

^ We who are called Christians have been very, very, poor representatives of Jesus Christ.
  • Atheist & Agnostic Help Page 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.believers.org [Source type: Original source]

^ These regard matter as a product of force, rather than force as a property of matter.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Give me a scintilla of evidence, and I am ready to jump at them."^ Give me a scintilla of evidence, and I am ready to jump at them."
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Agnosticism - LoveToKnow 1911 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.1911encyclopedia.org [Source type: Original source]

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Of the origin of the name "agnostic" to cover this attitude, Huxley gave (Coll.
^ Of the origin of the name " agnostic " to cover this attitude, Huxley gave ( See also: COLL Coll .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Of the origin of the name "agnostic" to cover this attitude, Huxley gave (Coll.
  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]
  • Agnosticism - LoveToKnow 1911 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.1911encyclopedia.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Of the origin of the name "agnostic" to describe this attitude, Huxley gave (Coll.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

Ess. v. pp. .237-239) the following account: "When I reached intellectual maturity, and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist or a pantheist, a materialist or an idealist, a Christian or a freethinker, I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer.^ A theist and a Christian may be an agnostic; an atheist may not be an agnostic.
  • Gordon Stein on the Meaning of Agnosticism : religious atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.darkfiber.com [Source type: Original source]

^ When I reached intellectual maturity and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist, or a pantheist; a materialist or an idealist; Christian or a freethinker; I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer; until, at last, I came to the conclusion that I had neither art nor part with any of these denominations, except the last.
  • Agnosticism - Victorian Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC science.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ He did not consider himself “an atheist, a theist, a pantheist; a materialist or an idealist; [nor] a Christian…” and while he had much in common with freethinkers, he wanted a term to describe himself more accurately.
  • Agnostic definition 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.essortment.com [Source type: Original source]

.The one thing on which most of these good people were agreed was the one thing in which I differed from them.^ It seems to mean different things to different people.
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ "The one thing in which most of these good people were agreed was the one thing in which I differed from them.

^ The one thing in which most of these good people were agreed was the one thing in which I differed from them.
  • Without Gods: Agnostic Archives 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.futureofthebook.org [Source type: Original source]
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  • hermit’s thatch › Huxley’s agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.hermitary.com [Source type: Original source]
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  • Atheism or Agnosticism » FreThink - You can afford to think. It’s free. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC frethink.com [Source type: Original source]
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.They were quite sure they had attained a certain ' gnosis ' - had more or less successfully solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure that I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble.^ They were quite sure that they had attained a certain "gnosis' -- had more or less successfully solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble," Huxley wrote.

^ Huxley says that he invented the term to describe what he thought made him unique among his fellow thinkers:  They were quite sure that they had attained a certain "gnosis" -- had more or less successfully solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble.
  • agnosticism - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC skepdic.com [Source type: Original source]
  • agnosticism - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.skepdic.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They were quite sure they had attained a certain "gnosis,"–had, more or less successfully, solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure I had not, and had a pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble.
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

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This was my situation when I had the good fortune to find a place among the members of that remarkable confraternity of antagonists, the Metaphysical Society.
^ IrAar6s, wide) place among the members of that remarkable confraternity of antagonists, the See also: META Meta -physical Society .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ This was my situation when I had the good fortune to find a place among the members of that remarkable confraternity of antagonists, the Metaphysical Society.

^ This was my situation when I had the good See also: FORTUNE, ROBERT (1813-188o) fortune to find a See also: PLACE (through Fr.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.Every variety of philosophical and theological opinion was represented there; most of my colleagues were -ists of one sort or another; and I, the man without a rag of a belief to cover himself with, could not fail to have some of the uneasy feelings which must have beset the historical fox when, after leaving the trap in which his tail remained, he presented himself to his normally elongated companions.^ Every variety of philosophical and theological opinion was represented there [the Metaphysical Society], and expressed itself with entire openness; most of my colleagues were -ists of one sort or another; and, however kind and friendly they might be, I, the man without a rag of a label to cover himself with, could not fail to have some of the uneasy feelings which must have beset the historical fox when, after leaving the trap in which his tail remained, he presented himself to his normally elongated companions.
  • Agnostics, mental couch potatoes? 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC mwillett.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Every variety of philosophical and theological opinion was represented there; most of my colleagues were -ists of one sort or another; and I, the man without a rag of a belief to cover himself with, could not fail to have some of the uneasy feelings which must have beset the historical fox when, after leaving the trap in which his tail remained, he presented himself to his normally elongated companions.

^ This leaves you without any theistic beliefs.
  • Am I agnostic or atheist? | The Rational Response Squad 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.rationalresponders.com [Source type: Original source]

.So I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of ' agnostic.'^ So I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of "agnostic."
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]
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^ So I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of ' agnostic.'

^ Thomas Huxley , in '' Christianity and Agnosticism: A Controversy (1889) I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of "agnostic."
  • Agnosticism - Wikiquote 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC en.wikiquote.org [Source type: Original source]

It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the ' gnostic ' of Church history, who professed to know so much about the very things of which I was ignorant.

To my great satisfaction the term took." This account is confirmed by R. H. Hutton, who in 1881 wrote that the word "was suggested by Huxley at a meeting held previous to the formation of the now defunct Metaphysical Society at Mr Knowles's house on Clapham Common in 1869, in my hearing. He took it from St Paul's mention of the altar to the Unknown God." Hutton here gives a variant etymology for the word, which may be therefore taken as partly derived from &-yvwanros (the "unknown" God), and partly from an antithesis to "gnostic"; but the meaning remains the same in either case.
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The name, as Huxley said, "took"; it was constantly used by Hutton in the Spectator and became a fashionable label for contemporary unbelief in Christian dogma.
^ The name, as Huxley said, "took"; it was constantly used by Hutton in the Spectator and became a fashionable label for contemporary unbelief in Christian dogma .

^ Thomas Huxley , in '' Christianity and Agnosticism: A Controversy (1889) I took thought, and invented what I conceived to be the appropriate title of "agnostic."
  • Agnosticism - Wikiquote 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC en.wikiquote.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Huxley was, of course, not ignorant of what Christians said or believed but rather professed not to be convinced.
  • hermit’s thatch › Huxley’s agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.hermitary.com [Source type: Original source]

.Hutton himself frequently misrepresented the doctrine by describing it as "belief in an unknown and unknowable God"; but agnosticism as defined by Huxley meant not belief, but absence of belief, as much distinct from belief on the one hand as from disbelief on the other; it was the half-way house between the two, where all questions were "open."^ While an Atheist rejects all aspects of a God, Agnostics are more open.
  • Agnosticism - Is it Really Taking a Stand on the Issue of Religion? - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.associatedcontent.com [Source type: General]

^ Theism is the belief that gods or deities exist, while Agnosticism is the belief that the existence of gods are unknown or inherently unknowable.
  • The Displaced African » The Journey of a Christian Agnostic Theist: The Teenage Years 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.thedisplacedafrican.com [Source type: Original source]

^ An agnostic is, after all, one who questions belief and holds that ultimate truths are unknowable.
  • Bach Choir tries to win skeptics with performance of 'Agnostic' 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.post-gazette.com [Source type: General]

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All that Huxley asked for was evidence, either for or against; but this he believed it impossible to get.
^ All that Huxley asked for was evidence, either for or against; but this he believed it impossible to get.

^ All that Huxley asked for was evidence, either for or against; but this he believed it impossible to get .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ All he/she can see is what everyone else can see, 'evidence' of God's work, Bible's, preachers, churches etc and from that evidence they have decided to believe in God.
  • Agnostic Atheism [The Mary Blog] 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC marykelly.blog-city.com [Source type: Original source]

.Occasionally he too mis-stated the meaning of the word he had invented, and described agnosticism as meaning "that a man shall not say he knows or believes what he has no scientific ground for professing to know or believe."^ "Agnostic is an invented word.
  • Why I Am An Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.fluxneo.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I do not mean to say that believers are never to be trusted, and that agnostics always should be.
  • Can Agnosticism Improve American  Public Life? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.secularhumanism.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Occasionally he too mis-stated the meaning of the word he had invented, and described agnosticism as meaning "that a man shall not say he knows or believes what he has no scientific ground for professing to know or believe."

But as the late Rev.
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A. W. Momerie remarked, this would merely be "a definition of honesty; in that sense we ought all to be agnostics."
^ Momerie remarked, this would merely be " a See also: DEFINITION (Lat.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ A. W. Momerie has noted that this is nothing but a definition of honesty .
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

^ A. W. Momerie remarked, this would merely be "a definition of honesty; in that sense we ought all to be agnostics."

.Agnosticism really rests on the doctrine of the Unknowable, the assertion that concerning certain objects - among them the Deity - we never can have any "scientific" ground for belief.^ An agnostic believes that the reality of God is unknowable.
  • Are we all agnostic? | Not About Religion Magazine and Blog 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC notaboutreligion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism really rests on the doctrine of the Unknowable, the assertion that concerning certain See also: OBJECTS objects —among them the Deity—we never can have any "scientific " ground for belief .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Agnosticism really rests on the doctrine of the Unknowable, the assertion that concerning certain objects - among them the Deity - we never can have any "scientific" ground for belief.

.This way of solving, or passing over, the ultimate problems of thought has had many followers in cultured circles imbued with the new physical science of the day, and with disgust for the dogmatic creeds of contemporary orthodoxy; and its outspoken and even aggressive vindication by physicists of the eminence of Huxley had a potent influence upon the attitude taken towards metaphysics, and upon the form which subsequent Christian apologetics adopted.^ Huxley's Attitude towards Religion."
  • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]
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^ This way of solving, or passing over, the ultimate problems of thought has had many followers in cultured circles imbued with the new See also: PHYSICAL physical See also: SCIENCE (Lat.
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^ I believe), or CONFESSIONS OF FAITH creeds of contemporary orthodoxy; and its outspoken and even aggressive vindication by physicists of the See also: EMINENCE (Lat.
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As a nickname the term "agnostic" was soon misused to cover any and every variation of scepticism, and just as popular preachers confused it with atheism in their denunciations, so the callow freethinker - following Tennyson's path of "honest doubt" - classed himself with the agnostics, even while he combined an instinctively Christian theism with a facile rejection of the historical evidences for Christianity.
^ Weak atheism is usually confused with agnosticism.
  • Apologia Atheos: Definition of strong/weak atheism and agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.update.uu.se [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism can also develop as a rejection of both atheism and theism, for a number of reasons.

^ Agnostic atheism is a combination of both.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

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The term is now less fashionable, though the state of mind persists.
^ The term is now less fashionable, though the state of mind persists.

^ I now turn to the consideration of the two remarkable catechisms in which Mr Balfour has stated to his mind the leading doctrines of Demonism (A) and of Naturalism (B).
  • T. H. Huxley: Mr Balfour's Attack on Agnosticism II 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Dave goes on to conclude that he's OK with his agnostic state, a state of mind I'm not quite ready to slip into largely because I'm not quite sure that the term fits me.
  • Brutally Honest: Brutally Agnostic?! 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.brutallyhonest.org [Source type: Original source]

.Huxley's agnosticism was a natural consequence of the intellectual and philosophical conditions of the 'sixties, when clerical intolerance was trying to excommunicate scientific discovery because it appeared to clash with the book of Genesis.^ Huxley's agnosticism was a natural consequence of the intellectual and philosophical conditions of the 'sixties, when clerical intolerance was trying to excommunicate scientific See also: DISCOVERY discovery because it appeared to clash with the See also: BOOK book of See also: GENESIS GENESIS (Gr.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Huxley's agnosticism is believed to be a natural consequence of the intellectual and philosophical conditions of the 1860s, when clerical intolerance was trying to suppress scientific discoveries which appeared to clash with a literal reading of the Book of Genesis and other established christian doctrines.
  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Huxley's agnosticism was a natural consequence of the intellectual and philosophical conditions of the 'sixties, when clerical intolerance was trying to excommunicate scientific discovery because it appeared to clash with the book of Genesis .

.But as the theory of evolution was accepted, a new spirit was gradually introduced into Christian theology, which has turned the controversies between religion and science into other channels and removed the temptation to flaunt a disagreement.^ But as the theory of evolution was accepted, a new spirit was gradually introduced into Christian theology , which has turned the controversies between religion and science into other channels and removed the temptation to flaunt a disagreement.

^ But as the theory of See also: EVOLUTION evolution was accepted, a new spirit was gradually introduced into Christian See also: THEOLOGY theology , which has turned the controversies between See also: RELIGION RELIGION, FOLKLORE, CUSTOM religion and science into other channels and removed the temptation to flaunt a disagreement .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ One can be a Christian (or any other religion) and be an agnostic.

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A similar effect has been produced by the philosophical reaction against [[Herbert (Family)|Herbert ]], and by the perception that the canons of evidence required in physical science must not be exalted into universal rules of thought.
^ A similar effect has been produced by the philosophical reaction against Herbert Spencer, and by the See also: PERCEPTION (from Lat.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ A similar effect has been produced by the philosophical reaction against [[Herbert (Family)|Herbert ] ], and by the perception that the canons of evidence required in physical science must not be exalted into universal rules of thought.

^ It takes irrational faith toaccept this as an explanation of the universe, although many scientists do theorize thisway The principle of cause and effect is built into our experience, and indeed is thefoundation of science itself.
  • What Does Agnostic Mean? 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC hubpages.com [Source type: Original source]

.It does not follow that justification by faith must be eliminated in spiritual matters where sight cannot follow, because the physicist's duty and success lie in pinning belief solely on verification by physical phenomena, when they alone are in question; and for mankind generally, though possibly not for an exceptional man like Huxley, an impotent suspension of judgment on such issues as a future life or the Being of God is both unsatisfying and demoralizing.^ If they ask questions like: "how do you know which God?"
  • Alisha the Agnostic - Dare 2 Share Youth Ministry Resources 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.dare2share.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnostic, being an epistemological belief, does NOT refer to belief in god.
  • Agnosticism and its relation to religion- ExChristian.Net - Articles 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC exchristian.net [Source type: Original source]
  • Agnosticism and its relation to religion | Progressive U 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.progressiveu.org [Source type: Original source]

^ God, faith and religion in public life.
  • Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.is.wayne.edu [Source type: Original source]

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It is impossible here to do more than indicate the path out of the difficulties raised by Huxley in the letter to Kingsley quoted above.
^ It is impossible here to do more than indicate the path out of the difficulties raised by Huxley in the letter to Kingsley quoted above.

^ The ones I picked out are the ones I most often encounter in real life (although the theist is slightly more rational in his approach of his religion than most theists I know.
  • On Agnostic Truth 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC ticc.uvt.nl [Source type: Original source]

^ ExChrisitan.Net Book Store Click here and check out more books in the ExChristian.Net Book Store .
  • Am I An Atheist Or An Agnostic?- ExChristian.Net - Articles 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC exchristian.net [Source type: Original source]

.They involve an elaborate discussion, not only of Christian evidences, but of the entire subject-matter alike of Ethics and Metaphysics, of Philosophy as a whole, and of the philosophies of individual writers who have dealt in their different ways with the problems of existence and epistemology.^ They involve an elaborate discussion, not only of Christian evidences, but of the entire subject-matter alike of See also: ETHICS ETHICS, SHAFTESBURY, HOBBES Ethics and Metaphysics, of See also: PHILOSOPHY (Gr.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ They involve an elaborate discussion, not only of Christian evidences, but of the entire subject-matter alike of Ethics and Metaphysics, of Philosophy as a whole, and of the philosophies of individual writers who have dealt in their different ways with the problems of existence and epistemology .

^ Philosophy as a whole, and of the philosophies of individual writers who have dealt in their different ways with the problems of existence and See also: EPISTEMOLOGY epistemology .
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.It is, however, permissible to point out that, as has been exhaustively argued by Professor J. Ward in his Gifford lectures for 1896-1898 (Naturalism and Agnosticism, 1899), Huxley's challenge ("I know what I mean when I say I believe in the law of the inverse squares, and I will not rest my life and my hopes upon weaker convictions") is one which a spiritualistic philosophy need not shrink from accepting at the hands of naturalistic agnosticism.^ The point is, with Agnosticism , I feel happy knowing that whatever's out there, I'll accept it.
  • agnostic@Everything2.com 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC everything2.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I do not mean to say that believers are never to be trusted, and that agnostics always should be.
  • Can Agnosticism Improve American  Public Life? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.secularhumanism.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ If you accept that one can be an agnostic theist, we don't have any more to say on this point.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

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If, as Huxley admits, even putting it with unnecessary force against himself,"the immortality of man is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter," the question then is, how far a critical analysis of our belief in the last-named doctrines will leave us in a position to regard them as the last stage in systematic thinking.
^ It is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter...

^ If, as Huxley admits, even putting it with unnecessary force against himself,"the immortality of man is not half so wonderful as the conservation of force or the indestructibility of matter," the question then is, how far a critical analysis of our belief in the last-named doctrines will leave us in a position to regard them as the last stage in systematic thinking.

^ He holds that a man should think out questions of conduct for himself.
  • What Is An Agnostic? by Bertrand Russell 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.solstice.us [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic? - Bertrand Russell 1953 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.corax.com [Source type: Original source]
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.It is the pitfall of physical science, immersed as its students are apt to be in problems dealing with tangible facts in the world of experience, that there is a tendency among them to claim a superior status of objective reality and finality for the laws to which their data are found to conform.^ It is the pitfall of physical science, immersed as its students are apt to be in problems dealing with tangible facts in the world of experience, that there is a tendency among them to claim a superior status of objective reality and finality for the laws to which their data are found to conform.

^ The name, as Huxley said, " took "; it was constantly used by of physical science, immersed as its students are See also: APT apt to be in problems dealing with tangible facts in the See also: WORLD world of experience, that there is a tendency among them to claim a See also: SUPERIOR superior status of See also: OBJECTIVE, or OBJECT GLASS objective reality and finality for the See also: LAWS laws to which their data are found to conform .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Also, we believe that there are many people who claim to be Christians and enjoy wearing the label, but who are in fact not rightly related to Christ by faith and thus not truly a believer.
  • From the Front Lines: Arguments Used by Agnostics to Support Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.arcapologetics.org [Source type: Original source]

But these generalizations are not ultimate truths, when we have to consider the nature of experience itself.
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"Because reference to the Deity will not serve for a physical explanation in physics, or a chemical explanation in chemistry, it does not therefore follow," as Professor Ward says (op.
^ "Because reference to the Deity will not serve for a physical explanation in physics, or a chemical explanation in chemistry , it does not therefore follow," as Professor Ward says ( op.

^ I just have to remember that I follow the traditions because I want to be the kind of person who does those kinds of things - I want to be a better person!

^ Therefore, the Christian God as conceived is logically impossible and Matson could say with complete certainty that He does not exist.
  • Atheist or Agnostic? 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC sifter.org [Source type: Original source]

cit. vol. i. p. .2 4), "that the sum total of scientific knowledge is equally intelligible whether we accept the theistic hypothesis or not.^ See also: TOTAL total of scientific knowledge is equally intelligible whether we accept the theistic See also: HYPOTHESIS (from Gr.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Testable Hypothesis for Intelligent Design, Pt 3 Perry Marshall December 20, 2009: Dead cells, whether fruit or leaves or whatever - that IS death.

^ They too, are guided by rational thought based on scientific knowledge and accept all humans as equals.
  • AHA! @ Stanford | Facebook 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.facebook.com [Source type: General]

It is true that every item of scientific knowledge is concerned with some definite relation of definite phenomena, and with nothing else; but, for all that, the systematic organization of such items may quite well yield further knowledge, which transcends the special relations of definite phenomena."

At the opening of the era of modern scientific discovery, with all its fruitful new generalizations, the still more highly generalized laws of epistemology and of the spiritual constitutionof man might well baffle the physicist and lead his intellect to "flounder." It is fundamentally necessary, in order to avoid such floundering, that the "knowledge" of things sensible should be kept distinct from the "knowledge" of things spiritual; yet in practice they are constantly confused. .When the physicist limits the term "knowledge" to the conclusions from physical apprehensions, his refusal to extend it to conclusions from moral and spiritual apprehensions is merely the consequence of an illegitimate definition.^ When the physicist limits the term " knowledge " to the conclusions from physical apprehensions, his refusal to extend it to conclusions from moral and spiritual apprehensions is merely the consequence of an' illegitimate definition .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ When the physicist limits the term "knowledge" to the conclusions from physical apprehensions, his refusal to extend it to conclusions from moral and spiritual apprehensions is merely the consequence of an illegitimate definition.

^ The tests in each case differ; and it is as irrelevant for the theologian to dispute the " know-ledge " of the physicist, by arguments from faith and religion, as it is for the physicist to deny the " knowledge " of the theologian from the point of view of one who ignores the possibility of spiritual See also: APPREHENSION (Lat.
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He relies on the validity of his perceptions of physical facts; but the saint and the theologian are no less entitled to rely on the validity of their moral and spiritual experiences.
^ He relies on the validity of his perceptions of physical facts; but the See also: SAINT (lat.
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^ He relies on the validity of his perceptions of physical facts; but the saint and the theologian are no less entitled to rely on the validity of their moral and spiritual experiences.

^ When the physicist limits the term " knowledge " to the conclusions from physical apprehensions, his refusal to extend it to conclusions from moral and spiritual apprehensions is merely the consequence of an' illegitimate definition .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.In each case the data rest on an ultimate basis, undemonstrable, indeed, to any one who denies them (even if he be called mad for doing so), except by the continuous process of working out their own proofs, and showing their consistency with, or necessity in, the scheme of things terrestrial on the one hand, or the mind and happiness of man on the other.^ Which, I suppose, works out to the same thing.

^ In each case the data rest on an ultimate basis, undemonstrable, indeed, to any one who denies them (even if he be called mad for doing so), except by the continuous process of working out their own proofs, and showing their consistency with, or necessity in, the scheme of things terrestrial on the one hand, or the mind and happiness of man on the other.

^ Show me an atheist who will deny he is alive!
  • Agnostic Truth Reality Essay 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.williamsamuel.com [Source type: Original source]

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The tests in each case differ; and it is as irrelevant for the theologian to dispute the "knowledge" of the physicist, by arguments from faith and religion, as it is for the physicist to deny the "knowledge" of the theologian from the point of view of one who ignores the possibility of spiritual apprehension altogether.
^ The tests in each case differ; and it is as irrelevant for the theologian to dispute the " know-ledge " of the physicist, by arguments from faith and religion, as it is for the physicist to deny the " knowledge " of the theologian from the point of view of one who ignores the possibility of spiritual See also: APPREHENSION (Lat.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ The tests in each case differ; and it is as irrelevant for the theologian to dispute the "knowledge" of the physicist, by arguments from faith and religion, as it is for the physicist to deny the "knowledge" of the theologian from the point of view of one who ignores the possibility of spiritual apprehension altogether.

^ Some say it is possible to be agnostic and follow a religion; however, one cannot be a devout believer if he or she does not truly believe.
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.On the ground of secular history and secular evidence both might reasonably meet, as regards the facts, though not perhaps as to their interpretation; but the reason why they ultimately differ is to be found simply in the difference of their mental attitude towards the nature of "knowledge" - itself a difference of opinion as to the nature of man.^ They are simply different things.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Greek 4 p4'ew, to speak, or irpa-rrecv, to do) interpretation ; but the reason why they ultimately differ is to be found simply in the difference of their See also: MENTAL mental attitude towards the nature of " knowledge "—itself a difference of opinion as to the nature of man .
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^ On this we agree, though probably for different reasons.
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In addition to the literature cited above, see L. Stephen, An Agnostic's Apology (1893); R. Flint, Agnosticism (1903); T. Bailey Saunders, The Quest of Faith, chap.
^ FOX, ROBERT WERE (1789—1877) FOX, SIR STEPHEN (1627–1716) FOX, SIR WILLIAM (1812-1893) fox when, after leaving the See also: TRAP (0.
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^ In addition to the literature cited above, see L .
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^ BAILEY, NATHAN BAILEY, PHILIP JAMES (1816-1902) BAILEY, SAMUEL (1791-1870) Bailey Saunders, The Quest of Faith, See also: CHAP chap .
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ii. .(1899); A. W. Benn, English Rationalism in the XIXth Century (London, 1906).^ Rationalism in the XIXth See also: CENTURY (from Lat.
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^ Benn, See also: ENGLISH English See also: RATIONALISM (from Lat.
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^ Century ( See also: LONDON London , 1906) .
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.A philosophical theory of the limitations of knowledge, professing doubt of or disbelief in some or all of the powers of knowing possessed by the human mind.^ Our own self thus asserts itself as free from the limitations of time, and, therefore, it is not proved that the reality underlying the All must, of necessity, be quite unlike what we know as human life.

^ A person who believes that the human mind cannot know whether there is a God or an ultimate cause, or anything beyond material phenomena.
  • agnostic@Everything2.com 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC everything2.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Does God Exist - Atheism and Agnosticism - Frames of Reference 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.dyeager.org [Source type: Original source]

^ The philosophers of Judaism, beginning with Philo , prefer to hypostasize divine manifestations and powers, such as wisdom, grace, justice, prescience, to descriptions of His entity in human terms.

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I. EXPOSITION

.(1) The word Agnostic (Greek a, privative + gnostikós "knowing") was coined by Professor Huxley in 1869 to describe the mental attitude of one who regarded as futile all attempts to know the reality corresponding to our ultimate scientific, philosophic, and religious ideas.^ Huxley , who coined the word, did not consider agnosticism to be solely about God .
  • agnosticism@Everything2.com 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.everything2.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnostics are those who do not know -- that's what the word means.
  • AHH! Agnostics! - Catholic Answers Forums 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC forums.catholic.com [Source type: General]

^ Agnosticism 2 I don't really know whether I'm agnostic or not.
  • Agnosticism - Reviews on RateItAll 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.rateitall.com [Source type: General]

.As first employed by Huxley, the new term suggested the contrast between his own unpretentious ignorance and the vain knowledge which the Gnostics of the second and third century claimed to possess.^ This is a term coined by Thomas Huxley in the middle of the 19th century.
  • What do Agnostics Believe? - G‑d and Us 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.chabad.org [Source type: General]

^ Here is Thomas Henry Huxley 's explanation for his desire to coin a new term, "agnostic," to express his relationship to religion: .

^ 'Mr Balfour's Attack upon Agnosticism', Part I. Second revise of the article in Nineteenth Century [This was Huxley's last published work] Printed .
  • 10 - Theology, Biblical criticism, etc - Thomas Henry Huxley Collection 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.imperial.ac.uk [Source type: Reference]

.This antithesis served to discredit the conclusions of natural theology, or theistic reasoning, by classing them with the idle vapourings of Gnosticism.^ Natural theology may, indeed, for Hume's reasons as reinforced by Kant, be impossible.
  • Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC cyberspacei.com [Source type: Original source]

The classification was unfair, the attempted antithesis overdrawn. .It is rather the Gnostic and the Agnostic who are the real extremists; the former extending the bounds of knowledge, and the latter narrowing them, unduly.^ And the agnostic shares this knowledge with the Gnostic.

^ Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ As the coiner of the word, Thomas Huxley, emphasized, it deals with KNOWLEDGE of god, and is opposed to the "gnostics", who claimed knowledge of the divine(and also limited it to their initiates/acolytes).
  • Agnosticism and its relation to religion | Progressive U 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.progressiveu.org [Source type: Original source]

.Natural theology, or theism, occupies the middle ground between these extremes, and should have been disassociated both from the Gnostic position, that the mind can know everything, and from the Agnostic position, that it can know nothing concerning the truths of religion.^ Revelation: There is no middle ground between theism and atheism.

^ Why occupy some middle ground?
  • Sorting it all Out : Between atheism and agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC blogs.msdn.com [Source type: General]

^ Among philosophers it is generally accepted that agnosticism is not "a middle ground between atheism and theism".
  • On Agnostic Truth 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC ticc.uvt.nl [Source type: Original source]

(See GNOSTICISM.)
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(2) Agnosticism, as a general term in philosophy, is frequently employed to express any conscious attitude of doubt, denial, or disbelief, towards some, or even all, of man's powers of knowing or objects of knowledge.
^ Some agnostics are skeptical of anyone who claims to have all the answers regarding why humans exist, where the universe came from, and whether or not a higher power is responsible for it all.
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A446339 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Bob has even studied the contactee apologetic literature and takes his objection a step further: If you claim that there are no leprechauns, then that implies you are omniscient since you would have to have knowledge of all parts of the universe to know that there are no leprechauns anywhere in it.

^ Once the young Thomas Henry Huxley found himself at a loss among a group of his friends: all of them had some sort of dogmatic philosophy with arguments at the ready to defend it!

.The meaning of the term may accordingly vary, like that of the other word "Scepticism", which it has largely replaced, from partial to complete Agnosticism; it may be our knowledge of the world, of the self, or of God, that is questioned; or it may be the knowableness of all three, and the validity of any knowledge, whether of sense or intellect, science or philosophy, history, ethics, religion.^ May 22, 2006: This Date in History (Religion & Philosophy) What happened on May 22 in the history of religion and philosophy?
  • Agnosticism / Atheism Sitemap - Page 51 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC spiderbites.about.com [Source type: Original source]

^ May 21, 2006: This Date in History (Religion & Philosophy) What happened on May 21 in the history of religion and philosophy?
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^ May 02, 2006: This Date in History (Religion & Philosophy) What happened on May 02 in the history of religion and philosophy?
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.The variable element in the term is the group of objects, or propositions, to which it refers; the invariable element, the attitude of learned ignorance it always implies towards the possibility of acquiring knowledge.^ I'm referring to a theoretically possible group of natives.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ It's an epistemological term - about the possibility of knowledge in regard to 'god' claims - and not a statement about matters of belief.
  • Am I agnostic or atheist? | The Rational Response Squad 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.rationalresponders.com [Source type: Original source]

^ How, then, is knowledge possible, or how is an object possible, since an object is something beyond sensation?
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

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(3) Agnosticism, as a term of modern philosophy, is used to describe those theories of the limitations of human knowledge which deny the constitutional ability of the mind to know reality and conclude with the recognition of an intrinsically Unknowable.
^ Agnosticism 2 I don't really know whether I'm agnostic or not.
  • Agnosticism - Reviews on RateItAll 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.rateitall.com [Source type: General]

^ Agnosticism & Robert Green Ingersoll: Why Am I Agnostic It seems to me that the man who knows the limitations of the mind, who gives the proper value to human testimony, is necessarily an Agnostic.
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^ Our own self thus asserts itself as free from the limitations of time, and, therefore, it is not proved that the reality underlying the All must, of necessity, be quite unlike what we know as human life.

.The existence of "absolute reality" is usually affirmed while, at the same time, its knowableness is denied.^ By Huxley's definition, a person with good evidence for God's existence could in theory be an agnostic and a theist at the same time.
  • agnosticism@Everything2.com 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.everything2.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Since it denies the existence of a god or gods, I realized maybe 3 or 4 years ago agnosticism is definitely not for me.
  • The Jewmanist » Blog Archive » Interesting Argument Against Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC jewmanist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The Post has always denied the existence of this interview, even when it was confirmed once again by Moorer in the Washington Times .
  • deadmetaphors.com :: elvis's konspiracy korner - 'better living through ecstatic agnosticism' 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC deadmetaphors.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.Kant, Hamilton, Mansel, and Spencer make this affirmation an integral part of their philosophic systems.^ Yet its intellectual inadequacy becomes manifest when the doctrine of the Unknowable in the broad synthetic system of Herbert Spencer, a late-19th-century evolutionary philosopher, is recalled.
  • Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC cyberspacei.com [Source type: Original source]

^ This is the theory of the essential relativity of knowledge which Mr. Spencer has taken from Hamilton and Mansel, and which is the metaphysical principle of his synthetic philosophy.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Herbert Spencer as an Evolutionist carried the doctrine of Hamilton and Mansel one step farther, and professed belief in "an Absolute that transcends not only human knowledge, but human conception."
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

The Phenomenalists, however, deny the assertion outright, while the Positivists, Comte and Mill, suspend judgment concerning the existence of "something beyond phenomena". (See POSITIVISM.)
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(4) Modern Agnosticism differs from its ancient prototype.
^ Even though Agnosticism technically refers to the belief that "the existence of God cannot be proved," in modern society the term "agnostic" can also carry a different but related meaning.

^ Its a very different order of dont know from the more superficial skepticism or cynicism of much modern agnosticism.

.Its genesis is not due to a reactionary spirit of protest, and a collection of sceptical arguments, against "dogmatic systems" of philosophy in vogue, so much as to an adverse criticism of man's knowing-powers in answer to the fundamental question: What can we know?^ I believe there are answers to her argument, which is primarily epistemological, in analytic philosophy and in the ancient Greek philosophy of Carneades and his argument about "plausibility": If not knowing about the Tooth Fairy and the origins of the Big Bang are judged the same thing, I fear we won't get too far.

^ From the time when the Greeks began to cultivate philosophy and to construct systems of thought, criticism, as a reaction against the dogmatic spirit, made its appearance, and in the conflicting theories as to the nature of the real as distinguished from the apparent, it found the conditions most favorable to its work.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Once the young Thomas Henry Huxley found himself at a loss among a group of his friends: all of them had some sort of dogmatic philosophy with arguments at the ready to defend it!

.Kant, who was the first to raise this question, in his memorable reply to Hume, answered it by a distinction between "knowable phenomena" and "unknowable things-in-themselves". Hamilton soon followed with his doctrine that "we know only the relations of things". Modern Agnosticism is thus closely associated with Kant's distinction and Hamilton's principle of relativity.^ Atheists relative to that concept are people who answer the question negatively.
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ It follows that we do not know things, but only their relations to ourselves and to one another.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Who can answer these questions?
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • The Great Agnostic: Correspondence 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.ipacific.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

.It asserts our inability to know the reality corresponding to our ultimate scientific, philosophic, or religious ideas.^ Our own self thus asserts itself as free from the limitations of time, and, therefore, it is not proved that the reality underlying the All must, of necessity, be quite unlike what we know as human life.

^ But, it's not logical to say we can never truly know if there is a God, because as our scientific knowledge and investigative powers increase, our concepts of the universe constantly evolves.
  • Mike Garibaldi-Frick: America Needs an Agnostic in the White House 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.huffingtonpost.com [Source type: General]

^ Most philosophers have known, at least since around 500 B.C., that the world perceived by our senses is not “the real world” but a construct we create — our own private work of art.
  • DougieG's Blog » Model Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.dougieg.com [Source type: Original source]

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(5) Agnosticism, with special reference to theology, is a name for any theory which denies that it is possible for man to acquire knowledge of God.
^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Does an agnostic deny that man has a soul?
  • What Is An Agnostic? by Bertrand Russell 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.solstice.us [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic? - Bertrand Russell 1953 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.corax.com [Source type: Original source]
  • ~~ |~~ : Why I Am Not A Christian ~  Bertrand Russell~~ 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.nowscape.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In my view, agnostics have to prove that this special status given to the idea of God (and no other) is rationally founded, and is not simply the expression of historical and cultural bias.
  • Secular Web Kiosk and Bookstore :: No Case for Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC secweb.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

.It may assume either a religious or an anti-religious form, according as it is confined to a criticism of rational knowledge or extended to a criticism of belief.^ NOM is referring to the Benitez decision in California, determining that a doctor cannot violate California anti-discrimination law by refusing to treat a lesbian based on religious belief.

^ Many stress that their lives are guided not by anti-religiousness, but belief in science, logic and reason.
  • Atheist, agnostic groups gain acceptance on campus» Abilene Reporter News 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.reporternews.com [Source type: News]

^ But if this is the case, then personal experience cannot be a source of religious knowledge either.
  • American Atheists | Agnosticism: The Basis for Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.atheists.org [Source type: Original source]

.De Bonald (1754-1840), in his theory that language is of divine origin, containing, preserving, and transmitting the primitive revelation of Good to man; De Lammenais (1782-1854), in his theory that individual reason is powerless, and social reason alone competent; Bonetty (1798-1879), in his advocacy of faith in God, the Scriptures, and the Church, afford instances of Catholic theologians attempting to combine belief in moral and religious truths with the denial that valid knowledge of the same is attainable by reason apart from revelation and tradition.^ No sensible man, however agnostic, has "faith in reason alone."
  • What Is An Agnostic? by Bertrand Russell 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.solstice.us [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]
  • ~~ |~~ : Why I Am Not A Christian ~  Bertrand Russell~~ 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.nowscape.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Because faith and knowledge are not the same thing.

^ God runs on faith and faith alone.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

.To these systems of Fideism and Traditionalism should be added the theory of Mansel (1820-71), which Spencer regarded as a confession of Agnosticism, that the very inability of reason to know the being and attributes of God proves that revelation is necessary to supplement the mind's shortcomings.^ For this very reason agnostics won't admit to a belief in God.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I don't KNOW there is not a god, I am agnostic.
  • Agnostics, mental couch potatoes? 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC mwillett.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnostics are often ignorant of the very reasons you can't prove or disprove God.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.This attitude of criticising knowledge, but not faith, was also a feature of Sir William Hamilton's philosophy.^ The third stage is found in the philosophy of John Stuart Mill, who in his Examination of Hamilton's Philosophy has carried out the implications of Hamilton, and denied that we have "an intuitive knowledge of God."
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ This is the theory of the essential relativity of knowledge which Mr. Spencer has taken from Hamilton and Mansel, and which is the metaphysical principle of his synthetic philosophy.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ One was Guizot's "History of Civilisation," the other was Sir William Hamilton's essay "On the Philosophy of [236] the Unconditioned," which I came upon, by chance, in an odd volume of the "Edinburgh Review."
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

(See FIDEISM and TRADITIONALISM.)
.
(6) The extreme view that knowledge of God is impossible, even with the aid of revelation, is the latest form of religious Agnosticism.
^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In my view, agnostics have to prove that this special status given to the idea of God (and no other) is rationally founded, and is not simply the expression of historical and cultural bias.
  • Secular Web Kiosk and Bookstore :: No Case for Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC secweb.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ By agnosticism I mean a mindset which holds that it is impossible to determine the truth value of theism because there is no way of demonstrating either the existence or the nonexistence of God.
  • Secular Web Kiosk and Bookstore :: No Case for Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC secweb.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

.The new theory regards religion and science as two distinct and separate accounts of experience, and seeks to combine an agnostic intellect with a believing heart.^ Some say it is possible to be agnostic and follow a religion; however, one cannot be a devout believer if he or she does not truly believe.
  • Wiiguru (nicholas Dougherty) | MySpace 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.myspace.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ If the faith is in the context of traditional religion, the believer can have a born-again experience; if the faith is based on a new belief system, the believer simply puts himself under the guidance of the leader who has created his particular image of God.
  • The Pragmatic Path to Agnosticism « Running Naked: A Transparent Approach to Change 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC blog.abclarke.com [Source type: General]

^ Here is Thomas Henry Huxley 's explanation for his desire to coin a new term, "agnostic," to express his relationship to religion: .

.It has been aptly called "mental book-keeping by double entry". Ritschl, reviving Kant's separatist distinction of theoretical from practical reason, proclaims that the idea of God contains not so much as a grain of reasoned knowledge; it is merely "an attractive ideal", having moral and religious, but no objective, scientific, value for the believer who accepts it.^ Someone who doesnt believe in God.
  • Psychology of Unbelief: Skepticism, Agnosticism, Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.ankerberg.com [Source type: Original source]

^ An atheist is someone who believes there is no God.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ I see no ~reason~ to accept the idea of God.
  • Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League Member List 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.godlessprolifers.org [Source type: News]

.Harnack locates the essence of Christianity in a filial relation felt towards an unknowable God the Father.^ His most famous work, The Essence of Christianity , argued that God is nothing more than the outward projection of man's inward nature.

^ The God of Judaism is the God of the Old Testament, God the Father of Christianity, so that the Old Testament is common to the two religions.
  • authentic religion 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC religion-cults.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Surrounded by white, heterosexual, God-fearing Christians in matching holiday sweaters and their Sunday best (despite it being a Friday), I felt as though their was no part of their experience that night with which I could relate.
  • The New Gay » An Agnostic Carol 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC thenewgay.net [Source type: General]

.Sabatier considers the words God, Father, as symbols which register the feelings of the human heart towards the Great Unknowable of the intellect.^ The word God is a sort of pivotal symbol in human affairs.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ God is great beyond the human grasp.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ The word "armageddon" only occurs in Rev. It is the location of the final great battle between good and evil called the Great Day of God Almighty.
  • A.D. - Bride of Christ | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.carm.org [Source type: Original source]

.
(7) Recent Agnosticism is also to a great extent anti-religious, criticizing adversely not only the knowledge we have of God, but the grounds of belief in Him as well.
^ Only false knowledge of the > belief in god/s.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Only false knowledge of the belief in god/s.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.A combination of Agnosticism with Atheism, rather than with sentimental irrational belief, is the course adopted by many.^ For me, agnosticism is harder to understand than atheism or religious belief.
  • The puzzle of agnosticism | Machines Like Us 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC machineslikeus.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Mano Singham's Web Journal: The puzzle of agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC blog.case.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnostic atheism is a combination of both.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism is a claim about knowledge rather than belief.
  • Agnosticism & Atheism « de-conversion 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC de-conversion.com [Source type: Original source]

.The idea of God is eliminated both from the systematic and personal view which is taken of the world and of life.^ In my view, agnostics have to prove that this special status given to the idea of God (and no other) is rationally founded, and is not simply the expression of historical and cultural bias.
  • Secular Web Kiosk and Bookstore :: No Case for Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC secweb.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ From one point of view, that seems reasonable, since such a person is obviously very far from being a believer in God 1 .
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ The life of sensation and the life of reason both lead us to a world which is beyond the senses, and which for the intellect is full of mystery.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The attitude of "solemnly suspended judgment" shades off first into indifference towards religion, as an inscrutable affair at best, and next into disbelief.^ A perfectionist attitude toward secular affairs is common.
  • Religion and Religious Information 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC agnosticgroup.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Irreligion is the lack of religion, an indifference to religion or hostility towards religion, but again, NOT NECESSARILY a god.
  • What are the differences between agnosticism and atheism? - Yahoo! Answers 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC answers.yahoo.com [Source type: General]

^ Many Agnostics, Atheists, Humanists and other non-theists have a negative attitude towards traditional formal religions.
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, the Brights, Humanism, etc. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.religioustolerance.org [Source type: Original source]

.The Agnostic does not always merely abstain from either affirming or denying the existence of God, but crosses over to the old position of theoretic Atheism and, on the plea of insufficient evidence, ceases even to believe that God exists.^ A theist believes in gods but believes that their existence is unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They are theists if they > > > > believe, even with doubts about the existence of a god.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnostic : You mean, which you believe does not exist.
  • On Agnostic Truth 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC ticc.uvt.nl [Source type: Original source]

.While, therefore, not to be identified with Atheism, Agnosticism is often found in combination with it.^ Therefore, I'm between agnosticism and atheism.
  • Agnostic Atheism [The Mary Blog] 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC marykelly.blog-city.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnostic atheism is a combination of both.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The Graduate Center of the City University of New York conducted a survey in 2001 and found that only 0.5% of Americans identified themselves as agnostic.
  • Are we all agnostic? | Not About Religion Magazine and Blog 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC notaboutreligion.com [Source type: Original source]

(See ATHEISM.)

II. TOTAL AGNOSTICISM SELF-REFUTING

.Total or complete Agnosticism--see (2)--is self-refuting.^ There is hard agnosticism which says knowledge is not possible (which I think is self-refuting), and then there is the more common, soft agnosticism which equates "knowledge" with belief and negates the claim to belief.

^ May I ask why you find hard agnosticism to be self refuting?

^ They technically describe two completely different things (agnosticism deals with knowledge; atheism deals with belief), but colloquially I usually see 'agnostic' used to describe soft atheism.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.The fact of its ever having existed, even in the formula of Arcesilaos, "I know nothing, not even that I know nothing", is questioned.^ If we do not know that we exist as personal and free agents we know nothing.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ LL. It isn't a question of whether he KNOWS whether a > > > god exists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Plus, I came to think that whether or not God exists is an open question, having pondered the arguments for and against several times over.
  • TPM: The Philosophers’ Magazine | How to be agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.philosophypress.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

It is impossible to construct theoretically a self-consistent scheme of total nescience, doubt, unbelief. The mind which undertook to prove its own utter incompetence would have to assume, while so doing, that it was competent to perform the allotted task. .Besides, it would be Impossible to apply such a theory practically; and a theory wholly subversive of reason, contradictory to conscience, and inapplicable to conduct is a philosophy of unreason out of place in a world of law.^ It would be difficult, if not impossible, for me to put into words the change that has taken place in me, I have since learned that with many members the change has been almost instantaneous.
  • Educated Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC silkworth.net [Source type: Original source]

^ I would be if he stepped out before me, Proclaimed himself and made such an awesome display as no living being could possibly make...
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Method of Science The world would be a better place if we had more Carl Sagans.
  • Agnostic, Aethist, Secular, Humanist T-Shirts 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cafepress.com [Source type: Original source]

.It is the systems of partial Agnosticism, therefore, which merit examination.^ Therefore, agnosticism is not grounds for rejecting Christianity; rather, it is grounds for examining Christianity.
  • A Ready Defense-Agnosticism, Atheism and Secular Humanism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.greatcom.org [Source type: Original source]

.These do not aim at constructing a complete philosophy of the Unknowable, but at excluding special kinds of truth, notably religious, from the domain of knowledge They are buildings designedly left unfinished.^ But in the twentieth century with certain analytic philosophers the question has come to the fore about whether these key religious utterances have any truth-value at all.

^ Agnostics come from different religious backgrounds, they have different political opinions, and they have different philosophies about life and the universe.
  • Agnosticism / Atheism Sitemap - Page 5 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC spiderbites.about.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Left wing ideology has a lot in common with religious belief, so it should not be surprising that they can happily co-exist at least some of the time.
  • Agnosticism was what saved my faith | Nesrine Malik | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

III. KANT'S DISTINCTION BETWEEN APPEARANCE AND REALITY EXAMINED

.Kant's idea of "a world of things apart from the world we know" furnished the starting-point of the modern movement towards constructing a philosophy of the Unknowable.^ I hope that someone who read this will start to look at rust a little differently, and in doing so prove my point: that we are all agnostic about, and ignorant of, a great many more things than we “know” with confidence.
  • Agnosticism – copping out? « Derren Brown Blog 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC derrenbrown.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ However, convincing yourself of these things in the comfortable modern world we live in now is an impossible sell, not merely a challenging one.

^ At one point I started using the term "epistemological nihilist" (as I have an inkling that humans are incapable of knowing everything), but that term just sounds pompous to the people I'm likely to be debating with.
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.With the laudable intention of silencing the sceptic Hume, he showed that the latter's analysis of human experience into particular sense-impressions was faulty and incomplete, inasmuch as it failed to recognize the universal and necessary elements present in human thought.^ The impulse of thought fatally carries us beyond sense-experience and the attempt to confine knowledge to the domain of the apparent is vain.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Neither space and time, nor the categories, nor the three ideas of reason are derived from experience, nor can they be resolved into experience, but they are the independent and necessary conditions of knowledge.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Most of us will be forced into using a particular language via our job, via our experience.
  • The Agnostic Coder 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC agnosticcoder.com [Source type: General]

.Kant accordingly proceeded to construct a theory of knowledge which should emphasize the features of human thought neglected by Hume.^ Hume in effect confines our knowledge to experience, Kant to an apparent world created rather than reflected by our thought," and thus, cannot be compatible with scientific discovery of inferred phenomena or historical testimony, for example.
  • Does God Exist? Theism and Biblical Faith vs. Atheism and Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.leaderu.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Hume was the great protagonist of Huxley's philosophy, and he makes it clear that his positions are but an application of Hume's theory of knowledge.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ You are reading the Bible expecting it to conform to your modern knowledge, theories, and human eyes.

.He assumed that universality, necessity, causality, space, and time were merely the mind's constitutional way of looking at things, and in no sense derived from experience.^ To the thing-in-itself, time and space have no relation.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Without consciousness or even a mere primitive brain, we are no different than a giant rock floating around in space, an existence without any importance, or life at all.
  • Agnostic and afterlife | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ As every impression is a contingent fact, which might not be or might be other than it is, there can be no necessary or causal relation between the facts of experience.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The result was that he had to admit the mind's incapacity for knowing the reality of the world, the soul, or God, and was forced to take refuge against Hume's scepticism in the categorical imperative "Thou shalt" of the "moral reason". He had made "pure reason" powerless by his transfer of causality and necessity from the objects of thought to the thinking subject.^ We are conscious of the reality of the objective world, but only as it is related to a thinking subject.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ They claim to know the mind of god.

^ I then read up on C.S. Lewis, and found out that he converted to Christianity from atheism, so I thought, “if he can do it, I can do it too.” I was already depressed, and had suicidal thoughts (as usual, and for the same reasons I mentioned earlier), so I prayed before going to bed, and asked God to show me that He was real.
  • Testimony Share » Conversion to Christianity from Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.testimonyshare.com [Source type: Original source]

.
To discredit this idea of a "reality " inaccessibly hidden behind "appearances", it is sufficient to point out the gratuitous assumptions on which it is based.
^ He first declares this object to be outside of thought, and then proceeds to point out the impressions or ideas which it pro duces in the mind.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Of course, as you point out, the actualisation of class politics is best carried out by overt organisation, and it is interfered with, but not abolished, when such class-based organisation is disrupted.
  • 'Just World News' with Helena Cobban: Trashing one-staters with Hussein Ibish 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC justworldnews.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Their program has made a real two state solution impossible, as has been pointed out, with the apartheid settlements and apartheid roads.
  • 'Just World News' with Helena Cobban: Trashing one-staters with Hussein Ibish 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC justworldnews.org [Source type: Original source]

.Kant's radical mistake was, to prejudge, instead of investigating, the conditions under which the acquisition of knowledge becomes possible.^ Hence his criticism deals with the presuppositions of knowledge, the conditions which make knowledge possible.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ But the idealism of Kant, which makes the inadequacy of materialistic theories plain, seems to favor the theory of nescience, which has become popular under the name of agnosticism.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Kant's great merit is to have shown beyond the possibility of doubt that material data can never constitute knowledge.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.No proof was offered of the arbitrary assumption that the categories are wholly subjective; proof is not even possible.^ The proof is that even people who have everything they could possible want, like movie stars and rock stars, are still frustrated and unhappy.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ He can offer conjectures to this claim but no real proof.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Second, since this experience is subjective or "internal," there is no possible means of verification - I cannot even be sure that you had the experience, let alone that you had the experience you think you had or that it refers to anything in external reality.
  • American Atheists | Agnosticism: The Basis for Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.atheists.org [Source type: Original source]

."The fact that a category lives subjectively in the act of knowing is no proof that the category does not at the same time truly express the nature of the reality known", [Seth, "Two Lectures on Theism" (New York, 1897) p.^ New York Times 25 (Sept.
  • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]
  • Huxley's Bibliography 2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC cs.clarku.edu [Source type: Academic]

^ To know God and to live is the same thing.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I lived in New York city in the nineties.
  • Pajamas Media » Wright, Ayers, and Obama: An Agnostic Quotes the Bible 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC pajamasmedia.com [Source type: Original source]

.19.] The harmony of the mind's function with the objects it perceives and the relations it discovers shows that the ability of the mind to reach reality is involved in our very acts of perception.^ Apparently, with all of our technonogical advances and access to information, we haven’t really evolved very much.
  • The Pragmatic Path to Agnosticism « Running Naked: A Transparent Approach to Change 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC blog.abclarke.com [Source type: General]

^ Our knowledge of both is a knowledge of their relation to us, which is simply to say that subject is not object.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Yet Kant, substituting theory for fact, would disqualify the mind for its task of knowing the actual world we live in, and invent a hinterland of things-in-themselves never known as they are, but only as they appear to be.^ To know God and to live is the same thing.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Yet, in actual fact, it is the same kind of knowing.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ We can never know things as they are in themselves, but only as they appear to us; and every affirmation concerning them may be met by its opposite.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.This use of a purely speculative principle to criticize the actual contents of human experience, is unjustifiable.^ Even at this late date in human history, certain elementary facts based upon the critical use of scientific reason have to be restated.
  • A Ready Defense-Agnosticism, Atheism and Secular Humanism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.greatcom.org [Source type: Original source]

.Knowledge is a living process to be concretely investigated, not a mechanical affair for abstract reason to play with by introducing artificial severances of thought from object, and of reality from appearance.^ The process results in vijnana, realized knowledge.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ And we have an additional thought: that the web might realize some smidgen of benefit through the airing of this process.

.Once knowledge is regarded as a synthetic act of a self-active subject, the gap artificially created between subject and object, reality and appearance, closes of itself.^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The critical philosophy, in denying the validity of inference from the subjective to the objective, denies that knowledge has any real value.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education3 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Real knowledge implies the passing from a present impression to something connected with it, and this something, as it is not itself present, is represented by its copy or idea.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

(See KANT, PHILOSOPHY OF.)

IV. HAMILTON'S DOCTRINE OF RELATIVITY EXAMINED

.Sir William Hamilton contributed the philosophical principle on which modern Agnosticism rests, in his doctrine that "all knowledge is relative". To know is to condition; to know the Unconditioned (Absolute, or Infinite) is therefore, impossible, our best efforts resulting in "mere negations of thought". This doctrine of relativity contains two serious equivocations which, when pointed out, reveal the basic difference between the philosophies of Agnosticism and of Theism.^ What is the differences between agnostics and atheist.
  • Religious to Agnostic (Or Atheist) (doom, Revelation, follower, religious leader) - Atheism and Agnosticism - Page 7 - City-Data Forum 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.city-data.com [Source type: Original source]

^ As I have intimated the only difference between us is > marginal and rests on what theism terms as knowledge.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details."

.The first is in the word "relativity". The statement that knowledge is "relative" may mean simply that to know anything, whether the world or God, we must know it as manifesting itself to us under the laws and relations of our own consciousness; apart from which relations of self-manifestation it would be for us an isolated, unknowable blank.^ Our knowledge of both is a knowledge of their relation to us, which is simply to say that subject is not object.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Our knowledge is thus a participation in the divine self-knowing, it is a knowing with God which is the meaning of consciousness and conscience.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ But what would you look for to know the meaning of the word 'rock'?
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.Thus understood, the doctrine of relativity states the actual human method of knowing the world, the soul, the self, God, grace and the supernatural.^ KNOW that all claims about > the supernatural are actually human inventions?
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ KNOW that all claims about > > the supernatural are actually human inventions?
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Thus the idea of God underlies self-consciousness, and in knowing ourselves we know God.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Who would hold that we know God, naturally, in any other way than through the manifestations He makes of Himself in mind and nature?^ "Maybe god is there, maybe not, who knows.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Who would bother making the iPod.
  • My DRM Agnosticism & Indifference toward Media Format Compatibility — Technology Liberation Front 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC techliberation.com [Source type: General]

^ I wonder if we would know God, if we found God?

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But Hamilton understood the principle of relativity to mean that "we know only the relations of things"; only the Relative, never the Absolute.
^ It follows that we do not know things, but only their relations to ourselves and to one another.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Since our knowledge is a knowledge of things in their relations to a thinking subject, it can never be absolute, and hence whatever we predicate of the Supreme Being is predicated analogically.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ There are figures, appearances, shadows; they are the only things which exist; they know themselves after the fashion of shadows -- fleeting shadows, flitting over nothing.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.A negative conclusion, fixing a limit to what we can know, was thus drawn from a principle which of itself merely affirms the method, but settles nothing as to the limits, of our knowledge.^ But, it's not logical to say we can never truly know if there is a God, because as our scientific knowledge and investigative powers increase, our concepts of the universe constantly evolves.
  • Mike Garibaldi-Frick: America Needs an Agnostic in the White House 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.huffingtonpost.com [Source type: General]

^ When the physicist limits the term " knowledge " to the conclusions from physical apprehensions, his refusal to extend it to conclusions from moral and spiritual apprehensions is merely the consequence of an' illegitimate definition .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Men wearing flocks and silly hats in churches, synagogues, mosques or temples have done nothing to increase our knowledge.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.This arbitrary interpretation of a method as a limitation is the centre of the Agnostic position against Theism.^ Atheism and Theism are positions, but Agnosticism is a process.
  • American Atheists | Agnosticism: The Basis for Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.atheists.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism, focusing on what can be known, is an epistemological position (dealing with the nature and limits of human knowledge); while atheism and theism are ontological positions (a branch of metaphysics that deals with what types of entities exist).
  • Religion and Religious Information 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC agnosticgroup.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Name: Christoph Aspelund Location: Fargo, North Dakota, USA Email: hamlet@4authors.com Nontheist position: Agnostic; Theism nor atheism are provable.
  • Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League Member List 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.godlessprolifers.org [Source type: News]

.An ideally perfect possible knowledge is contrasted with the unperfect yet none the less true, knowledge which we actually possess.^ It's certainly possible to believe in something without > > > having actual knowledge.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Yet such claims are plainly and massively contravened by our actual empirical knowledge such that they are quite beyond the boundaries of responsible belief.

^ It is akin to skepticism in the less extreme sense: not that it is impossible to have knowledge or that we have none but that we should not claim to have knowledge that we do not have.
  • American Atheists | Agnosticism: The Basis for Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.atheists.org [Source type: Original source]

.By thus assuming "ideal comprehension" as a standard by which to criticize "real apprehension", the Agnostic invalidates, apparently, the little that we do know, as at present constituted, by the more we might know if our mental constitution were other than it is.^ He is more than we can know; more, therefore, than we can express.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism 2 I don't really know whether I'm agnostic or not.
  • Agnosticism - Reviews on RateItAll 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.rateitall.com [Source type: General]

^ I don’t really know any more about it than anyone else.
  • Jennifer Marohasy » The Concept of ‘Passionate Agnosticism’ on Boxing Day 2006 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC jennifermarohasy.com [Source type: General]

.The Theist, however, recognizing that the limits of human knowledge are to be determined by fact, not by speculation, refuses to prejudge the issue, and proceeds to investigate what we can legitimately know of God through His effects or manifestations.^ Agnosticism & Robert Green Ingersoll: Why Am I Agnostic It seems to me that the man who knows the limitations of the mind, who gives the proper value to human testimony, is necessarily an Agnostic.
  • Agnosticism / Atheism Sitemap - Page 5 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC spiderbites.about.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ When the physicist limits the term " knowledge " to the conclusions from physical apprehensions, his refusal to extend it to conclusions from moral and spiritual apprehensions is merely the consequence of an' illegitimate definition .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ A person who believes that the human mind cannot know whether there is a God or an ultimate cause, or anything beyond material phenomena.
  • agnostic@Everything2.com 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC everything2.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Does God Exist - Atheism and Agnosticism - Frames of Reference 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.dyeager.org [Source type: Original source]

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The second serious equivocation is in the terms "Absolute", "Infinite", "Unconditioned". The Agnostic has in mind, when he uses these terms, that vague general idea of being which our mind reaches by emptying concrete reality of all its particular contents.
^ The real meaning of Agnosticism Does all this mean that agnosticism is a bogus term?
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Our minds are probably the key to it all.
  • Agnosticism – copping out? « Derren Brown Blog 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC derrenbrown.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ A generic term for divination that uses fire.

The result of this emptying process is the Indefinite of abstract, as compared with the Definite of concrete, thought. It is this Indefinite which the Agnostic exhibits as the utterly Unrelated, Unconditioned. But this is not the Absolute in question. .Our inability to know such an Absolute, being simply our inability to define the indefinite, to condition the unconditioned, is an irrelevant truism.^ Since our knowledge is a knowledge of things in their relations to a thinking subject, it can never be absolute, and hence whatever we predicate of the Supreme Being is predicated analogically.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ To think, they say, is to define, to limit, to place conditions; and therefore the "unconditioned," the infinite and absolute, is unthinkable and unknowable.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ This covenant being irrevocable, unconditioned and detached from the copyright licensing conditions.
  • Should an Open Source Licence Ever Be Patent-Agnostic? | Linux Journal 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.linuxjournal.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.The absolute in question with Theists is the real, not the logical; the Infinite in question is the actual Infinite of realized perfection, not the Indefinite of thought.^ An old question recently led me to a new thought: can an Agnostic be a Theist?
  • American Atheists | Agnosticism: The Basis for Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.atheists.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Unless one is awakened to this position of questioning his suffering, unless he realizes that he doesn't want suffering but rather wants to make a solution to all suffering, then one is not to be considered a perfect human being."
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ I can't really think of any examples now, but I realized it when I was reading "Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers".
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

.The All-perfect is the idea of God, not the All-imperfect, two polar opposites frequently mistaken for each other by Pantheists and Materialists from the days of the Ionians to our own.^ I think all of our gods are.
  • Year end thoughts: Why is agnosticism so dangerous? « Questionable Motives 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC questionablemotives.wordpress.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Down with all other gods!
  • Jennifer Marohasy » The Concept of ‘Passionate Agnosticism’ on Boxing Day 2006 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC jennifermarohasy.com [Source type: General]

^ The other two questions are 1) Does that God care what we do and 2) Is that God all powerful?.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

.The Agnostic, therefore, displaces the whole Theistic problem when he substitutes a logical Absolute, defined as "that which excludes all relations outer and inner", for the real.^ I vote to exclude all but atheists/agnostics .
  • Atheist/Agnostic » Blog Archive » Club Discussion 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.haberco.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Composing existing logic to solve larger business problems is more efficient than writing all of the logic from scratch.
  • InformIT: The Case for Single-Purpose Services: Understanding the Non-Agnostic Context and a Strategy for Implementation > The Case for Single-Purpose Services: Understanding the Non-Agnostic Context and a Strategy for Implementation 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.informit.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ George Smith, a prominent atheist writer, has argued that all agnosticism is a form of atheism (defined here as "lacking a belief in a deity").
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

.Examination of our experience shows that the only relation which the Absolute essentially excludes is the relation of real dependence upon anything else.^ It depends only on our decision.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ This simple experience, available to all, makes clear that in-UNITE-ual and flowing modes of consciousness are existentially as real as the in-DIVIDE-ual particles that we normally experience as our selves.

^ Since our knowledge is a knowledge of things in their relations to a thinking subject, it can never be absolute, and hence whatever we predicate of the Supreme Being is predicated analogically.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.We have no right in reason to define it as the non-related.^ The use of the word 'reason' in the sense here defined is no novelty, but has a very ancient precedent in Greek Philosophy.
  • T. H. Huxley: Mr Balfour's Attack on Agnosticism II 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Any parent who has the right presence of mind, is a reasonable person, and loves his kids, should have no problem in raising them well.
  • The Displaced African » The Journey of a Christian Agnostic Theist: The Teenage Years 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.thedisplacedafrican.com [Source type: Original source]

.In fact, it manifests itself as the causal, sustaining ground of all relations.^ As every impression is a contingent fact, which might not be or might be other than it is, there can be no necessary or causal relation between the facts of experience.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Nevertheless, the twentieth century readily accepts theories of all kinds, provided they are firmly grounded in fact.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

^ All the ultimate realities such as the True, the Right, the Perfect and the Good center in the Absolute, where all relations have their ground and beyond which they cannot go.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Whether our knowledge of this real Absolute, or God, deserves to be characterized as wholly negative, is consequently a distinct problem (see VI).^ But, it's not logical to say we can never truly know if there is a God, because as our scientific knowledge and investigative powers increase, our concepts of the universe constantly evolves.
  • Mike Garibaldi-Frick: America Needs an Agnostic in the White House 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.huffingtonpost.com [Source type: General]

^ Jac3510 wrote: The question you seem to bring up is whether or not our belief in God's existence is a matter of knowledge or belief.

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

V. SPENCER'S DOCTRINE OF THE UNKNOWABLE EXAMINED

.According to Herbert Spencer, the doctrine that all knowledge is relative cannot be intelligibly stated Without postulating the existence of the Absolute.^ Science may comment on the physical properties of our existence, but it cannot say that matter is all there ever was, is or will be, as Sagan did.” .
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Someone can believe in the existence of a God without revendicating > > knowledge and actually stating its impossibility and be willing to > > recognize that position.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ We cannot think Him away; for without the assumption explicit or implied of His existence, all ratiocinated thought becomes empty and cannot conclude in knowledge.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The momentum of thought inevitably carries us beyond conditioned existence (definite consciousness) to unconditioned existence (indefinite consciousness).^ The impulse of thought fatally carries us beyond sense-experience and the attempt to confine knowledge to the domain of the apparent is vain.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ You have to figure in humanity and our ideas and thoughts, because for us to contemplate our existence takes existence in the first place.
  • The Skeptics Society Forum • View topic - Agnosticism: Getting it respected or disrespected? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.skepticforum.com [Source type: General]

^ His argument, borrowed from Hamilton, stated that to think is to condition, and therefore the unconditioned cannot be an object of thought, thus excluding the whole range of revealed truth concerning God, as beyond the pale of logic.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The existence of Absolute Reality must therefore be affirmed.^ The existence of the individual is a reality in the sense where even unconscious individuals suffer, and therefore because they suffer, they should be entitled to certain rights, certain well-being rights.
  • GENIUS FORUMS • View topic - legal agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC theabsolute.net [Source type: Original source]

^ In reality, the existence of God cannot be proven or disproved absolutely....

^ The first or cosmic aspect affirms that God must be to us at least as real as physical things or human persons.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Spencer thus made a distinct advance upon the philosophy of Comte and Mill, which maintained a non-committal attitude on the question of any absolute existence.^ It maintains that the Absolute is independent Self-existence.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Christian philosophy maintains that to hold less than this, is to limit and thereby destroy any true conception of the Absolute.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism refers to what you know, and the absolute position of agnosticism is strictly that the knowledge of a question (generally the existence of deities) is unobtainable.
  • FARK.com: (4292172) Jesus will not be riding his dinosaur in Texas 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

.Hamilton and Mansel admitted the existence of the Infinite on faith, denying only man's ability to form a positive conception of it.^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ It will be seen that these philosophical conceptions are only partial, and can in nowise satisfy the religious nature of man, which demands an object of worship as explanation of the universe.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Ted Drange is only noting some of the intellectual excuses > > agnostics may use to justify their vacuous and untenable position of > > there may, or may not be a form of Sky Fairy!
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.Mansel's test for a valid conception of anything is an exhaustive grasp of its positive contents--a test so ideal as to invalidate knowledge of the finite and infinite alike.^ We cannot affirm that anything is apparent merely, except by contrasting it with what is real, and this holds good also of finite and infinite, particular and universal, effect and cause.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Herbert Spencer as an Evolutionist carried the doctrine of Hamilton and Mansel one step farther, and professed belief in "an Absolute that transcends not only human knowledge, but human conception."
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ It cannot be said, even, that we have a more vivid and positive consciousness of the finite than of the infinite, of the relative than of the absolute, of the phenomenal than of the real.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Spencer's test is "inability to conceive the opposite". But since he understood "to conceive" as meaning "to construct a mental image", the consequence was that the highest conceptions of science and religion--matter, space, time, the Infinite--failed to correspond to his assumed standard, and were declared to be "mere symbols of the real, not actual cognitions of it at all". He was thus led to seek the basis and reconciliation of science, philosophy, and religion in the common recognition of Unknowable Reality as the object of man's constant pursuit and worship.^ It is not the case that for all standard uses of "exist" that to exist is to have a place in space-time.

^ What we call matter is really a mental conception.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The significance of this occasion was not merely that it secured a somewhat fair hearing for Darwin's theory but that science had made its declaration of independence from theology.
  • Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cedarlane.org [Source type: Original source]

.The non-existence of the Absolute is unthinkable; all efforts to know positively what the Absolute is result in contradictions.^ By definition how do we know absolutely that all gods are invented by humans?
  • Reason Project | Agnosticism is The Only Logical Answer 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.reasonproject.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Instead, all were compiled centuries after Alexander is said to have lived and died, by those who did not know him personally or directly witness his existence.

^ Agnosticism refers to what you know, and the absolute position of agnosticism is strictly that the knowledge of a question (generally the existence of deities) is unobtainable.
  • FARK.com: (4292172) Jesus will not be riding his dinosaur in Texas 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

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Spencer's adverse criticism of all knowledge and belief, as affording no insight into the ultimate nature of reality, rests on glaring assumptions.
^ This is pure knowledge with no doubts at all?
  • FARK.com: (4152260) Can agnosticism really exist in a meaningful way? Or is it merely an academic exercise with no real consequences? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ This is the implicit knowledge of God which makes belief in Him as natural as belief in the reality of nature.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ No human being has all knowledge.
  • Witnessing to Atheists - EffectiveEvangelism.com 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC christiananswers.net [Source type: Original source]

.The assumption that every idea is "symbolic" which cannot be vividly realized in thought is arbitrary as to be decisive against his entire system; it is a pre-judgment, not a valid canon of inductive criticism, which he constantly employs.^ From the time when the Greeks began to cultivate philosophy and to construct systems of thought, criticism, as a reaction against the dogmatic spirit, made its appearance, and in the conflicting theories as to the nature of the real as distinguished from the apparent, it found the conditions most favorable to its work.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ We really have it easy: the burden of proof is on you, and so far the inductive assumption that God cannot be known through reason has been borne out as not one argument for God has been shown to be airtight.
  • AHH! Agnostics! - Catholic Answers Forums 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC forums.catholic.com [Source type: General]

^ Since we cannot get at The Real Universe, revenge must be directed at symbolic targets in the existential continuum.

.From the fact that we can form no conception of infinity, as we picture an object or recall a scene, it does not follow that we have no apprehension of the Infinite.^ Since, according to Hume, it is impossible to know that there is either a subject or an object, it necessarily follows that no real connection between states of consciousness can be established.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Does anyone doubt that our universe came into being from a point of infinite density with no space and time?

^ If there is no way to say, empirically, that there are good paintings, does it not follow that “good paintings” must not exist?
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

.We constantly apprehend things of which we can distinctly frame no mental image.^ Is there "no relation to things social" in "mental conclusions" which affect men's whole conception of life?
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ "Agnosticism is a stage in the evolution of religion, an entirely negative stage, the point reached by physicists, a purely mental conclusion, with no relation to things social at all" (p.
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Spencer merely contrasts our picturesque with our unpicturable forms of thought, using the former to criticize the latter adversely.^ The incredibility-to use Spencer's contrasting term-of these central religious claims is tied, at least in part, to their inconceivability.

^ Views that Cannot Be Used as Criteria to Evaluate Evidence Theistic Agnosticism In our "Atheism vs. Theism" study, we discussed the definitional form of Agnosticism.

^ The use of the terms "groundwork" and "superstructure" by no means implies that the latter must be of later date than the former.
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The contradictions which he discovers are all reducible to this contrast of definite with indefinite thoughts and disappear when we have in mind a real Infinite of perfection, not a logical Absolute.^ However, the weak definition’s potential usefulness in reducing the stigma that all atheists bear is our most important reason for advocating this understanding and seeking to popularize it.

^ Yes, you're absolutely right, but I would like to keep in mind that a person can approach religion in a logical manner and never have what I refer to as faith.
  • The Religion & Faith Debate (continued from "Liar Liar") - Forums | MacLife 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.maclife.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Unless one is awakened to this position of questioning his suffering, unless he realizes that he doesn't want suffering but rather wants to make a solution to all suffering, then one is not to be considered a perfect human being."
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

.Spencer's attempt to stop finally at the mere affirmation that the Absolute exists he himself proved to be impossible.^ First , it lies in the attempt to develop the Absolute from a mere a priori idea.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ (Click the link above) You have likely heard that it is impossible to prove that God exists.
  • Agnostic // Current 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC current.com [Source type: Original source]

^ To say, as Mr. Spencer says, that the Absolute is a power, that He acts, is to impose limits upon the infinite; and when we affirm that He thinks and loves we merely affirm that He acts in the highest way conceivable by us.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.He frequently describes the Unknowable as the "Power manifesting itself in phenomena". This physical description is a surrender of his own position and a virtual acceptance of the principle of Theism, that the Absolute is known through, not apart from, its manifestations.^ Agnosticism, focusing on what can be known, is an epistemological position (dealing with the nature and limits of human knowledge); while atheism and theism are ontological positions (a branch of metaphysics that deals with what types of entities exist).
  • Religion and Religious Information 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC agnosticgroup.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Hutton himself frequently misrepresented the doctrine by describing it as " belief in an unknown and unknowable God "; but agnosticism as defined by Huxley meant not belief, but See also: ABSENCE (Lat.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Spencer objects to the position taken by Hamilton and Mansel, which he thinks calls in question the impossibility of affirming the positive existence of anything beyond phenomena, whereas for him there is what he defines as "a Power, the First Cause, absolute and infinite, and capable of manifesting itself," and insists that "its positive existence is a necessary datum of consciousness; that so long as consciousness continues we cannot for an instant rid it of this datum; and that thus the belief which this datum constitutes has a higher warrant than any other whatever- First Principles , p.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.If the Absolute can be known as physical power, surely it can be known as Intelligent Personal Power, by taking not the lowest, but the highest, manifestations of power known to us as the basis for a less inadequate conception.^ Christian philosophy maintains that to hold less than this, is to limit and thereby destroy any true conception of the Absolute.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ It doesn't take much intelligence to realize that if there is a God who created all things, He must be all-powerful.
  • Witnessing to Atheists - EffectiveEvangelism.com 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC christiananswers.net [Source type: Original source]

^ The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

.Blank existence is no final stopping-place for human thought.^ V. (A) Every human soul is of infinite value, eternal, free; no human being, therefore, is so placed as not to have within reach of himself and others, objects adequate to infinite endeavour.
  • T. H. Huxley: Mr Balfour's Attack on Agnosticism II 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Again, its easy to think that no mind, no thought is about sort of blanking out but, as any Zen teacher will tell you, thats nonsense.

^ Finally, Hume’s claim that Buddhism offers no forgiveness or redemption, and only Christianity does, places him in my lying liars for Jesus club .

.The only rational course is to conceive God under the highest manifestations of Himself and to remember while so doing that we are describing, not defining, His abysmal nature.^ Hutton himself frequently misrepresented the doctrine by describing it as " belief in an unknown and unknowable God "; but agnosticism as defined by Huxley meant not belief, but See also: ABSENCE (Lat.
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Not only can the existence of God be proven, denying the proof undermines rational thought.
  • Agnostic // Current 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC current.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If a doctrine of despair is the only rational faith, it would be some satisfaction at least to know that such is the nature of things.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.It is not a question of degrading God to our level, but of not conceiving Him below that level as unconscious energy.^ Jac3510 wrote: The question you seem to bring up is whether or not our belief in God's existence is a matter of knowledge or belief.

^ Obama is our god, and we much bow to him .

^ And to finish off, if God is benevolent as you say, as well as being omnipotent, then how could we assume that our definition of cruel has any meaning to him?
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

.Spencer's further attempt to empty religion and science of their respective rational contents, so as to leave only a blank abstraction or symbol for the final object of both, is a gross confusion, again, of the indefinite of thought with the infinite of reality.^ The ones I picked out are the ones I most often encounter in real life (although the theist is slightly more rational in his approach of his religion than most theists I know.
  • On Agnostic Truth 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC ticc.uvt.nl [Source type: Original source]

^ He endeavors, therefore, to show that the ultimate ideas of both science and religion lie in a great mystery behind all things and are identical.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Not only can the existence of God be proven, denying the proof undermines rational thought.
  • Agnostic // Current 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC current.com [Source type: Original source]

.A religion wholly cut off from belief, worship, and conduct never existed.^ In the same way the Pope is an agnostic, he knows that he can never prove his unshakeable belief that God exists.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ LL: But the fact that you think the term "god exists" can never be determined has NOTHING to do with your belief.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Therefore the following statement makes perfect sense: "I am a theist (or atheist) and I believe that God exists (or doesn't exist) but I'm also an agnostic in that I accept that I can never prove my belief.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.Religion must know its object to some extent or be mere irrational emotion.^ Agnosticism, then, is not a branch of religion but of epistemology, the philosophy of knowledge: what is it possible to say that we know with some acceptable degree of certainty, and how do we know that we know it?
  • American Atheists | Agnosticism: The Basis for Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.atheists.org [Source type: Original source]

.All religion recognizes mystery; truth and reality imperfectly known, not wholly unknowable.^ He endeavors, therefore, to show that the ultimate ideas of both science and religion lie in a great mystery behind all things and are identical.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ This is why all religions and supernatural beliefs have retreated into the final philosophical refuge, that of utter and complete irrelevance to the real world.
  • Agnosticism and the theological question through open hypotheses || kuro5hin.org 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.kuro5hin.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Unlike his conservative, Christian wife and family, he has come to know that he is agnostic–he believes that the truth about the afterlife, deities and ultimate reality is unknowable.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

.The distinction of "knowable phenomena from unknowable reality behind phenomena" breaks down at every turn; and Spencer well illustrates how easy it is to mistake simplified thoughts for the original simplicities of things.^ Of course, because human beings are highly irrational, many systems originally designed for justice have the potential to break down, or be corrupt from the outset.
  • GENIUS FORUMS • View topic - legal agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC theabsolute.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Well I'm mostly Catholic (don't believe every single thing they teach) and I'm in Mensa so...
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Well, I just thought I’d point out that the words have actual definitions, regardless of how you choose to define it personally.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

.His category of the Unknowable is a convenient receptacle for anything one may choose to put into it, because no rational statement concerning its contents is possible.^ Idealism (spiritualistic monism), Ward argues, is the one stable position in light of preceding concerns and the arguments in its defence see fit to open the door for the possibility of theistic inquiry and, thereby, for a rational theology.

^ I thought that one of the main reasons that the latest round of consoles have taken so long to get into stores was because of the time it takes to develop the games for them (there being no point releasing a console without games to play on it).
  • My DRM Agnosticism & Indifference toward Media Format Compatibility — Technology Liberation Front 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC techliberation.com [Source type: General]

^ I have no objection to theists as long as the are not spammers, I am more concerned about allowing Admins into the channel, as a result, I choose not to participate in it.
  • Atheist/Agnostic » Blog Archive » Club Discussion 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.haberco.com [Source type: Original source]

.In fact, Spencer calmly affirms the identity of the two "unknowables" of Religion and Science, without appearing to realize that neither in reason nor according to his own principles is there any foundation for this most dogmatic of statements.^ In Science, Religion and the Meaning of Life , Mark Vernon, “confronts the lust for certainty found in the dogmatism of conservative religion and militant science.
  • Jennifer Marohasy » The Concept of ‘Passionate Agnosticism’ on Boxing Day 2006 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC jennifermarohasy.com [Source type: General]

^ Promoting science, logic and reason as the best tools for understanding the world and fighting against the negative effects religions have on society are endeavors common to atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, naturalists, brights , skeptics and most secular humanists .
  • Agnosticism & Atheism « de-conversion 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC de-conversion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If, according to natural science, reason is absent from the universe, how is it that men of science talk about, 'laws of nature' which are expressions in terms of reason of the order of nature?
  • T. H. Huxley: Mr Balfour's Attack on Agnosticism II 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.math.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

VI. THE POWER TO KNOW

.The primary fact disclosed in our sense-knowledge is that an external object exists, not that a sensation has been experienced.^ Our knowledge of both is a knowledge of their relation to us, which is simply to say that subject is not object.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ But how can mere self-consciousness give us a knowledge of what is not ourselves, of an external world which is independent of our perception?
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

What we directly perceive is the presence of the object, not the mental process. .This vital union of subject and object in the very act of knowledge implies that things and minds are harmoniously related to each other in a system of reality.^ The relation of thought to reality, of subject to object, of knowing to being, is essential; the bond which unites them is indissoluble; we may distinguish between them, but we cannot think of one without implying at least the existence of the other.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Our knowledge of both is a knowledge of their relation to us, which is simply to say that subject is not object.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The real is involved in our acts of perception, and any theory which neglects to take this basic fact into account disregards the data of direct experience.^ We intend to take into account the requirements of these protocols in the elaboration of JAIN TM Presence.
  • The Java Community Process(SM) Program - JSRs: Java Specification Requests - detail JSR# 186 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC jcp.org [Source type: Reference]

^ Reusable (agnostic) services are generally built to accommodate this by taking Service Composability considerations into account during their modeling and design stages.
  • InformIT: The Case for Single-Purpose Services: Understanding the Non-Agnostic Context and a Strategy for Implementation > The Case for Single-Purpose Services: Understanding the Non-Agnostic Context and a Strategy for Implementation 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.informit.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ I guess I will take my chances and put my faith into being a Christian, but I really wish I had more credibility to the religion.
  • Agnosticism - Reviews on RateItAll 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.rateitall.com [Source type: General]

.Throughout the whole process of our knowing, the mind has reality, fundamentally at least, for its object.^ The relation of thought to reality, of subject to object, of knowing to being, is essential; the bond which unites them is indissoluble; we may distinguish between them, but we cannot think of one without implying at least the existence of the other.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ It is a scientific process to help us gradually wake up again to reality - the reality of our eternal life with Krishna.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The second fact of our knowledge is that things are known according to the nature of the knower.^ Agnosticism, focusing on what can be known, is an epistemological position (dealing with the nature and limits of human knowledge); while atheism and theism are ontological positions (a branch of metaphysics that deals with what types of entities exist).
  • Religion and Religious Information 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC agnosticgroup.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ The very nature of the supernatural may certainly limit our knowledge of it, but again it doesn't stop us thinking about it.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.We can know the real object, but the extent of this knowledge will depend on the number and degree of manifestations, as on the actual conditions of our mental and bodily powers.^ But, it's not logical to say we can never truly know if there is a God, because as our scientific knowledge and investigative powers increase, our concepts of the universe constantly evolves.
  • Mike Garibaldi-Frick: America Needs an Agnostic in the White House 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.huffingtonpost.com [Source type: General]

^ Most AA might believe in a “higher” power but most of the folks I know don’t really do church.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Our knowledge of both is a knowledge of their relation to us, which is simply to say that subject is not object.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Whatever be the results reached by psychologists or by physicists in their study of the genesis of knowledge or the nature of reality, there can be no doubt of the testimony of consciousness to the existence of a reality "not ourselves". Knowledge is, therefore, proportioned to the manifestations of the object and to the nature and conditions of the knowing subject.^ This is pure knowledge with no doubts at all?
  • FARK.com: (4152260) Can agnosticism really exist in a meaningful way? Or is it merely an academic exercise with no real consequences? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ The process results in vijnana, realized knowledge.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ We have no sentiment or consciousness of this power in ourselves.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

.Our power to know God is no exception to this general law, the non-observance of which is the weakness of Agnosticism, as the observance of it is the strength of Theism.^ Agnosticism: We cannot know if god exists.
  • FARK.com: (4292172) Jesus will not be riding his dinosaur in Texas 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ There is no point to our existence if God is all powerful.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ But, it's not logical to say we can never truly know if there is a God, because as our scientific knowledge and investigative powers increase, our concepts of the universe constantly evolves.
  • Mike Garibaldi-Frick: America Needs an Agnostic in the White House 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.huffingtonpost.com [Source type: General]

.The pivotal assumption in agnostic systems generally is that we can know the existence of a thing and still remain in complete ignorance of its nature.^ It has been argued from the works of David Hume , especially Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion , that he was an agnostic, but this remains subject to debate.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]

^ It has been argued from his works, especially Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, that David Hume was an agnostic, this however remains subject to debate.
  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Presumably there is some > > > > minimum amount such that any lesser amount would still call for us to deny > > > > the existence of the thing.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

The process of our knowing is contrasted with the object supposedly known. .The result of this contrast is to make knowledge appear not as reporting, but as transforming, reality; and to make the object appear as qualitatively different from the knowledge we have of it, not, therefore, intrinsically unknowable.^ The process results in vijnana, realized knowledge.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ When a DNA molecule makes an (not “and”) imperfect copy…” “…insert a different amino acid into the peptide chain (not “change”) Report comment to moderator .
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

This assumption begs the whole question. .No valid reason exists for regarding the physical stimulus of sensation as "reality pure and simple", or as the ultimate object of knowledge.^ As I have stressed before, when there is firm evidence, valid logic, and sound conclusion, there is knowledge - and no need to appeal or refer to belief whatsoever.  [ 5 ] .
  • American Atheists | Agnosticism: The Basis for Atheism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.atheists.org [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ There are other ways to prove God exists, but the Proof is simple and sweet, and based on pure logic without any assumptions.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

To conceive of knowledge as altering its object is to make it meaningless, and to contradict the testimony of consciousness. .We cannot, therefore, know the existence of a thing and remain in complete ignorance of its nature.^ Any of these things might exist, I cannot prove otherwise, their lack of existence is no certain.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ No, it is not profound, not even interesting, to say that we cannot know things for certain.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Trying to argue that the word "natural" is ill-defined, therefore we cannot talk about "supernatural" is very lame.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.
The problem of God's knowableness raises four more or less distinct questions: existence, nature, possibility of knowledge, possibility of definition.
^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They were quite sure they had attained a certain ' gnosis '—had more or less successfully, solved the problem of existence; while I was quite sure that I had not, and had a See also: PRETTY pretty strong conviction that the problem was insoluble .
  • AGNOSTICISM - Online Information article about AGNOSTICISM 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC encyclopedia.jrank.org [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ There is hard agnosticism which says knowledge is not possible (which I think is self-refuting), and then there is the more common, soft agnosticism which equates "knowledge" with belief and negates the claim to belief.

.In treating these, the Agnostic separates the first two, which he should combine, and combines the last two, which he should separate.^ The first thing to ask is whether or not a steady recognition of the fact that these biblical stories are false supports agnosticism as strongly as Huxley thinks it does.

^ On these grounds, I should not call myself a Christian, and I should say that an agnostic cannot be a Christian.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

.The first two questions, while distinct, are inseparable in treatment, because we have no direct insight into the nature of anything and must be content to study the nature of God through the indirect manifestations He makes of Himself its creatures.^ There is no God because there cannot be any."
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ In our introductory study of the theological and philosophical definitions of God, a preliminary statement was made to the effect that the ultimate Personality of religion and the Absolute of philosophy find together their highest expression in Jesus Christ; and that in His Person and work, we have the deepest possible insight into the nature and purpose of God.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ I would be if he stepped out before me, Proclaimed himself and made such an awesome display as no living being could possibly make...
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

.The Agnostic, by treating the question of God's nature apart from the question of God's existence, cuts himself off from the only possible natural means of knowing, and then turns about to convert his fault of method into a philosophy of the Unknowable.^ A theist believes in gods but believes that their existence is unknowable.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ God only needs Himself.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ He only has knowledge of what the questioner is talking > > > > about and knows the conventional definition of a god.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.It is only by studying the Absolute and the manifestations together that we can round out and fill in the concept of the former by means of the latter.^ Herbert Spencer as an Evolutionist carried the doctrine of Hamilton and Mansel one step farther, and professed belief in "an Absolute that transcends not only human knowledge, but human conception."
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ But, when I consider his creed and compare it with the Athanasian, I think I have on the whole a clearer conception of the meaning of the latter.
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The use of the terms "groundwork" and "superstructure" by no means implies that the latter must be of later date than the former.
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The idea of God cannot be analyzed wholly apart from the evidences, or "proofs". Deduction needs the companion process of induction to succeed in this instance.^ So what evidence could we accept as proof of God?
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ That there is simply no evidence or need for gods, that natural processes can explain the universe and life perfectly adequately.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Colin: Again, none of this is proof of the absence of God, but I'm suggesting that the kinds of things you suggest are evidence for God really aren't, since they can be attributed to other things that can be explained in terms that we do have evidence for.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

Spencer overlooked this fact, which St. Thomas admirably observed in his classic treatment of the problem.
.
The question of knowing God is not the same as the question of defining Him.
^ To know God and to live is the same thing.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ There cannot be an "I don't know" that sustains a god of > > which there is no knowledge and at the same time permits > > a belief in such.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ LL. It isn't a question of whether he KNOWS whether a > > > god exists.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

The two do not stand or fail together. .By identifying the two, the Agnostic confounds "inability to define" with "total inability to know", which are distinct problems to be treated separately, since knowledge may fall short of definition and be knowledge still.^ Although the usual way of defining "theist," "atheist," and "agnostic" (in terms of the proposition that God exists) is commendable, it is also incomplete, for it yields no classification for someone who says, "It depends on how you define the word God': for some definitions the proposition is true, for others it is false, and for still others I just don't know."
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ He only has knowledge of what the questioner is talking > > > > about and knows the conventional definition of a god.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ You may look at that > > > > > knowledge and conclude it is false, but you cannot then still.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Spencer furnishes the typical instance. .He admits that inquiry into the nature of things leads inevitably to the concept of Absolute Existence, and here his confusion of knowing with defining compels him to stop.^ It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the 'gnostic' of Church history, who professed to know so much about the very things of which I was ignorant.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]

^ Instead, all were compiled centuries after Alexander is said to have lived and died, by those who did not know him personally or directly witness his existence.

^ To me, it's more likely that there is something than there isn't, because the latter leads to the conclusion that we very likely wouldn't even be here if it were that void of a God concept.
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

.He cannot discover in the isolated concept of the Absolute the three conditions of relation, likeness, and difference, necessary for defining it.^ Even though Agnosticism technically refers to the belief that "the existence of God cannot be proved," in modern society the term "agnostic" can also carry a different but related meaning.

^ Neither space and time, nor the categories, nor the three ideas of reason are derived from experience, nor can they be resolved into experience, but they are the independent and necessary conditions of knowledge.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ To think, they say, is to define, to limit, to place conditions; and therefore the "unconditioned," the infinite and absolute, is unthinkable and unknowable.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.He rightly claims that no direct resemblance, no agreement in the possession of the same identical qualities, is possible between the Absolute and the world of created things.^ But ad hom or not, Darwin had absolutely no clue about the complexities of molecular structures or about the evasively enigmatic world of subatomic particles.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In the modern world, we can explain the vast majority of these things with science, but still some people put the rest down to a possible 'higher force'.
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The appropriate response will depend on why they are an agnostic, but I don't think the appropriate response is to claim that they are wrong because there is no such thing as agnosticism.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

.The Absolute cannot be defined or classified, in the sense of being brought into relations of specific or generic agreement with any objects we know or any concepts we frame.^ The relation of thought to reality, of subject to object, of knowing to being, is essential; the bond which unites them is indissoluble; we may distinguish between them, but we cannot think of one without implying at least the existence of the other.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Atheism can also be defined more narrowly as the active rejection of the existence of gods, either of a specific or general kind, or even that gods can exist.
  • Religion and Religious Information 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC agnosticgroup.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Since our knowledge is a knowledge of things in their relations to a thinking subject, it can never be absolute, and hence whatever we predicate of the Supreme Being is predicated analogically.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

This was no discovery of Spencer's. .The Eastern Fathers of the Church, in their so-called "negative theology", refuted the pretentious knowledge of the Gnostics on this very principle, that the Absolute transcends all our schemes of classification.^ But all of our theology was not in prose.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ The application of the principle results in the denial of, or the suspension of judgment concerning, a number of propositions respecting which our contemporary ecclesiastical "gnostics" profess entire certainty.
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the 'gnostic' of Church history, who professed to know so much about the very things of which I was ignorant.
  • What is an Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cojoweb.com [Source type: Original source]
  • fUSION Anomaly. Agnosticism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC fusionanomaly.net [Source type: Original source]

.But Spencer was wrong in neglecting to take into account the considerable amount of positive, though not strictly definable, knowledge contained in the affirmations which he makes in common with the Theist, that God exists. The Absolute, studied in the light of its manifestations, not in the darkness of isolations, discloses itself to our experience as Originating Source.^ Atheism is defined as a position of absolute certainty.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ God exists in our mind.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ God 1 = the universe itself (all that exists).
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

.Between the Manifestations and the Source there exists, therefore, some relationship.^ Regardless of what some religious fundamentalists claim, there are no arguments that prove that God exists.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ There’s a book called Snapping which has some excellent information about speaking in tongues, on the pressure that exists to do it, and the way in which the behaviour is learnt.
  • Agnosticism – copping out? « Derren Brown Blog 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC derrenbrown.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Originally Posted by Newbie2 It has been pointed out elsewhere that there are atheists and theists; agnostics are merely believe that some sort of a "god" exists, but do not recognize that deity.
  • AHH! Agnostics! - Catholic Answers Forums 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC forums.catholic.com [Source type: General]

It is not a direct resemblance, in the very nature of the case. .But there is another kind of resemblance which is wholly indirect, the resemblance of two proportions, or Analogy.^ One begins to perceive that there are at least two kinds of consciousness.

.The relation of God to His absolute nature must be, proportionally at least, the same as that of creatures to theirs.^ If this is right, then we are creatures whose evolved nature absolutely requires that we develop a morality.
  • Agnosticism and the Christian World View 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.edwardtbabinski.us [Source type: Original source]

^ God is viewed as an order supplier and the relation between believer and Him has a nature of business - I pray for something and God is supposed to give it.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ The difficulty of the agnostic position concerning the Absolute, lay in its failure to relate God to the universe the weakness of pantheism lay in its failure to distinguish God from the universe.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.However infinite the distance and difference between the two, this relation of proportional similarity exists between them, and is sufficient to make some knowledge of the former possible through the latter, because both are proportionally alike, while infinitely diverse in being and attributes.^ If both you and I see the universe as something infinite, with all matter being indestructible, what is the practical difference between our two beliefs, unless the universe does have a higher consciousness governing it?
  • Agnostic and afterlife | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ You, on the other hand, accept Socrates for the same reasons I do, and > reject BOTH God AND the Egyptian gods because of your belief that > supernatural things do not exist.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ A key difference between agnosticism and theism/atheism is that the former is expressing ideas about knowledge while the latter are concerned with beliefs.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.The Originating Source must precontain, in an infinitely surpassing way, the perfections dimly reflected in the mirror of Nature.^ The idea of the infinite, the absolute, the perfect, we all have; and the principle of causality makes us certain that this idea is not derived from our own limited nature.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ In 1888, scientists had no idea of such a point source origination of the universe, or of atoms having such an interior nature.

^ A thing is force manifesting itself in definite ways: God is infinite energy, pure act manifesting itself in man and in nature.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

Of this, the principle of causality, objectively understood, is ample warrant. .Spencer's three conditions for knowledge--namely: relation, likeness, and difference--are thus verified in another way, with proportional truth for their basis.^ The Vedas teach that there is another, superior realm (apareyam itas tv anyam, Bhagavad-gita 7.5) which is qualitatively different - eternal, full of knowledge and bliss.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ Neither space and time, nor the categories, nor the three ideas of reason are derived from experience, nor can they be resolved into experience, but they are the independent and necessary conditions of knowledge.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ So, a better way may just > be for us to accept that we are all different and that nobody else is > like > us, but equally be prepared to accept how others think and see them- > selves.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.The conclusions of natural theology cannot, therefore, be excluded from the domain of the knowable, but only from that of the definable.^ Trying to argue that the word "natural" is ill-defined, therefore we cannot talk about "supernatural" is very lame.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If I kill myself because I come to the conclusion I simply do not want to survive in a cold, impersonal universe, evolution or natural selection cannot condemn my actions.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Marriage is not Sacred or a Sacrament: Religion Cannot Define Civil Marriage Marriage is not Sacred or a Sacrament: Religion Cannot Define Civil Marriage Marriage is not Sacred or a Sacrament: Religion Cannot Define Civil Marriage - Churches Cannot Use Theology & Dogma to Define Marriage for Others Many argue that marriage is essentially and necessarily a religious rite.
  • Agnosticism / Atheism Sitemap - Page 51 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC spiderbites.about.com [Source type: Original source]

(See ANALOGY.)
.
The process of knowing God thus becomes a process of correcting our human concepts.
^ But, it's not logical to say we can never truly know if there is a God, because as our scientific knowledge and investigative powers increase, our concepts of the universe constantly evolves.
  • Mike Garibaldi-Frick: America Needs an Agnostic in the White House 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.huffingtonpost.com [Source type: General]

^ If perceptions form a whole and become the groundwork of knowledge only when they are connected, and if no connection between them is discoverable by the human understanding, the inevitable outcome is that we can know nothing.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ When the concept of the human spirit is understood in this sense, its mode of consciousness in which the individual feels connected to the cosmos as a whole, it becomes clear that ecological awareness is truly spiritual.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

.The correction consists in raising to infinite, unlimited significance the objective perfections discernible in men and things.^ That’s why Jesus came and did the things He did, lived the perfect life He did, suffered death and was raised again from the grave.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ This doesn't mean that the existence of a god is proven wrong, because the scientific method is not perfect and the only correct thing in the universe, or anything along those lines.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

.This is accomplished in turn by denying the limiting modes and imperfect features distinctive of created reality, in order to replace these by the thought of the All-perfect, in the plenitude of whose Being one undivided reality corresponds to our numerous, distinct, partial concepts.^ He was regarded as the Creator of all things, was One and was Perfect.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The relation of thought to reality, of subject to object, of knowing to being, is essential; the bond which unites them is indissoluble; we may distinguish between them, but we cannot think of one without implying at least the existence of the other.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ Do I think that any of these languages correspond to reality in a privileged way, or can be used for predictive purposes?

.In the light of this applied corrective we are enabled to attribute to God the perfections manifested in intelligence, will, power, personality, without making the objective content of our idea of God merely the human magnified, or a bundle of negations.^ A person who believes that the human mind cannot know whether there is a God or an ultimate cause, or anything beyond material phenomena.
  • Does God Exist - Atheism and Agnosticism - Frames of Reference 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.dyeager.org [Source type: Original source]

^ The real object of our knowledge is not a world of things-in-themselves; but the system of things as it exists for a perfect intelligence.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The idea that the deity would take on human form in order to teach us and lead us into the light was (is) embedded in the souls of all humanity so that we would be (are) more inclinded to it when it happened.
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

.The extreme of Anthropomorphism, or of defining God in terms of man magnified, is thus avoided, and the opposite extreme of Agnosticism discounted.^ An agnostic could also be an atheist if the term "atheist" were defined more broadly, for example, as anyone who lacks a belief in God, or who classifies the proposition that God exists as anything other than true.
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

^ In biblical theology, God is described in anthropomorphic terms; that is, in human terms with human attributes.
  • A.D. - Bride of Christ | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.carm.org [Source type: Original source]

^ For each different sense of the term "God," there will be theists, atheists, and agnostics relative to that concept of God.
  • Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]

.Necessity compels us to think God under the relative, dependent features of our experience.^ Our positive relationship to God depends on doing what He wants us to do, not what we want to do.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ "What is" loathes the verbal embrace, and our inmost experience reveals us nothing beyond the priviledged and inexpressible moment.
  • Agnosticism and the Christian World View 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.edwardtbabinski.us [Source type: Original source]

^ So God's existence does not depend on our belief.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

.But no necessity of thought compels us to make the accidental features of our knowledge the very essence of His being.^ The very nature of the supernatural may certainly limit our knowledge of it, but again it doesn't stop us thinking about it.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Valid Stance or Scam? 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The US being a case in point - quite far to the right of ourselves, and very religious to boot.
  • Agnosticism was what saved my faith | Nesrine Malik | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: General]

^ The impulse of thought fatally carries us beyond sense-experience and the attempt to confine knowledge to the domain of the apparent is vain.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The function of denial, which the Agnostic overlooks, is a corrective, not purely negative, function; and our idea of God, inadequate and solely proportional as it is, is nevertheless positive, true, and valid according to the laws which govern all our knowing.^ I think all of our gods are.
  • Year end thoughts: Why is agnosticism so dangerous? « Questionable Motives 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC questionablemotives.wordpress.com [Source type: Original source]

^ All we do is judged according to this law.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ But, it's not logical to say we can never truly know if there is a God, because as our scientific knowledge and investigative powers increase, our concepts of the universe constantly evolves.
  • Mike Garibaldi-Frick: America Needs an Agnostic in the White House 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.huffingtonpost.com [Source type: General]

VII. THE WILL TO BELIEVE

.The Catholic conception of faith is a firm assent, on account of the authority of God to revealed truths.^ The very concept of God on such an account becomes problematical.

^ It is a broadening and heartening thought that God who revealed Himself to the Jews in a more objective manner, revealed Himself in a measure also to the Gentiles, through their search after truth.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ While each of the modern philosophical definitions contain some fundamental truth, none of them reach the sublime heights of the Christian conception of God.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.It presupposes the philosophical truth that a personal God exists who can neither deceive nor be deceived, and the historical truth of the fact of revelation.^ Religion presupposes a personal God, .
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth!
  • Agnosticism / Atheism Sitemap - Page 5 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC spiderbites.about.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ A person who believes that the human mind cannot know whether there is a God or an ultimate cause, or anything beyond material phenomena.
  • Does God Exist - Atheism and Agnosticism - Frames of Reference 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.dyeager.org [Source type: Original source]

.The two sources of knowledge--reason and revelation--complete each other.^ But anyhow, I think the reason you’ve somewhat misinterpreted me is that as others have said knowledge and belief are two different issues.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They technically describe two completely different things (agnosticism deals with knowledge; atheism deals with belief), but colloquially I usually see 'agnostic' used to describe soft atheism.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ The reason for this is because I know that we can never gain > any relevant knowledge pro or con so the question is completely > unimportant to me and not worth my time to even consider belief.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

Faith begins where science ends. .Revelation adds a new world of truth to the sum of human knowledge.^ Please help our world (human society / life on earth) by sharing this knowledge.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I and many others it would seem have a world view that includes uncertainty and the desire to evolve that view as human knowledge changes and as one grows through individual experience.
  • BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | God. Who knows? 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC news.bbc.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The existence of an external world is a necessary postulate, but it cannot be proven, and consequently we can never say that our knowledge has objective truth.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

This new world of truth is a world of mystery, but not of contradiction. .The fact that none of the truths which we believe on God's authority contradicts the laws of human thought or the certainties of natural knowledge shows that the world of faith is a world of higher reason.^ Yes, we had been faithful, abjectly faithful to the God of Reason.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism is about knowledge, but knowledge of god, not nature.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ We had been abjectly faithful to the God of Reason.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

.Faith is consequently an intellectual assent; a kind of superadded knowledge distinct from, yet continuous with, the knowledge derived from experience.^ Neither space and time, nor the categories, nor the three ideas of reason are derived from experience, nor can they be resolved into experience, but they are the independent and necessary conditions of knowledge.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ And whoever is moved by Faith to assent to it, is conscious of a continued miracle in his own person, which subverts all the principles of his understanding, and gives him a determination to believe what is most contrary to custom and experience.
  • Religions Atheist Atheism Agnostic: Freud, Darwin, Einstein, Nietzsche:Discussion of Atheist Agnostic Quotes 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.spaceandmotion.com [Source type: Original source]

^ As to agnosticism being a distinctive faith, I have already shown that it cannot possibly be anything of the kind, unless perfect faith in logic is distinctive of agnostics; which, after all, it may be.
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

.
In contrast with this conception of faith and reason as distinct is the widespread view which urges their absolute separation.
^ When the mind turns its view inward upon itself, it transforms sensation into ideas of thinking and willing; of which remembrance, reasoning, knowledge, and faith are but modes.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The word knowledge is restricted to the results of the exact sciences; the word belief is extended to all that cannot be thus exactly ascertained.^ Science may comment on the physical properties of our existence, but it cannot say that matter is all there ever was, is or will be, as Sagan did.” .
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The results of the working out of the agnostic principle will vary according to individual knowledge and capacity, and according to the general condition of science.
  • Agnosticism (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ We cannot think Him away; for without the assumption explicit or implied of His existence, all ratiocinated thought becomes empty and cannot conclude in knowledge.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.The passive attitude of the man of science, who suspends judgment until the evidence forces his assent, is assumed towards religious truth.^ It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth!
  • Agnosticism / Atheism Sitemap - Page 5 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC spiderbites.about.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Thus to some extent it may appeal to those who think of plausibility in the light of total science as a main pointer to metaphysical truth.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC plato.stanford.edu [Source type: Original source]
  • Atheism and Agnosticism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC setis.library.usyd.edu.au [Source type: Original source]
  • Atheism and Agnosticism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy/Spring 2004 Edition) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.science.uva.nl [Source type: Original source]

^ They may be Laodiceans or apatheists who are indifferent to religion (as I wish to be in my perfect world) or there may be people who are deferring judgment until further evidence comes about.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

.The result is that the "will to believe" takes on enormous significance in contrast with the "power to know", and faith sinks to the level of blind belief cut off from all continuity with knowledge.^ God goes from (left to right) atheist, to agnostic, to higher power, to some belief, to mostly belief and some doubt and finally those who know god exists.
  • Young, agnostic, moderately liberal & smart support free speech : Gene Expression 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC scienceblogs.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Most AA might believe in a “higher” power but most of the folks I know don’t really do church.
  • Coming out Black and Agnostic | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.racialicious.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If it was proven false to the level of knowledge, > I'd be forced to abandon the belief; if it was proven true to the > level of knoweldge, I'd be forced to accept the belief.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.
It is true that the will, the conscience, the heart, and divine grace co-operate in the production of the act of faith, but it is no less true that reason plays an essential part.
^ No sensible man, however agnostic, has "faith in reason alone."
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

^ And, if the demonology is accepted, there can be no reason for rejecting all those miracles in which demons play a part.
  • Agnosticism and Christianity (1889) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC aleph0.clarku.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ While it is surely true that faith itself may exist beyond the bounds of rationality, what Mr. Kristof should be praising is reason and not faith.
  • Agnostic Universe Blog - Agnostic belief about creation and the universe 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.agnosticuniverse.org [Source type: Original source]

.Faith is an act of intellect and will; when duly analyzed, it discloses intellectual, moral, and sentimental elements.^ It does not, however, follow that we know nothing, but it does follow that in all our knowledge there is an element of faith which goes beyond the conclusions of the intellect, and which is faith precisely because it is not clear knowledge.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ If the existence of God and what it was to act in accordance with His will were perfectly evident or clearly establishable by hard intellectual work, faith would lose its force and rationale.

.We are living beings, not pure reasoning machines, and our whole nature cooperates vitally in the acceptance of the divine word.^ Which is to say our existence is the natural unfolding of the very being of the universe and god.
  • Agnostic and afterlife | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Being powerless over alcohol we are betting our lives on the concept we choose, so deep thought on this subject is needed.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In other words, "ethical authority" resides in our bodies and brains, and in the multitude of lessons learned during lives of interaction with our fellow human beings.
  • Agnosticism and the Christian World View 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.edwardtbabinski.us [Source type: Original source]

."Man is a being who thinks all his experience and perforce must think his religious experience."--Sterrett, "The Freedom of Authority" (New York, 1905) p.^ Since the turn of the millennium, a new militancy has arisen among religious skeptics in response to three threats to science and freedom: (1)...
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | Related Topics | National Post 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.nationalpost.com [Source type: News]

^ Sure, few may admit to the doubts - but as human beings, I think it is almost axiomatic that in light of all the unanswered prayers and the endless silence and the complete absence of any evidence - a human, even the most religious - must shake their head and then have some real fear shoot through them.
  • Reason Project | Agnosticism is The Only Logical Answer 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.reasonproject.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Its origin must therefore be sought in a being who actually contains all that our idea of him contains.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

56.--Where reason does not enter at all, we have but caprice or enthusiasm. .Faith is not a persuasion to be duly explained by reference to subconscious will-attitudes alone, nor is distrust of reason one of its marks.^ Is not faith in reason alone a dangerous creed?
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

^ No sensible man, however agnostic, has "faith in reason alone."
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

^ As to your > > > > > > > > comment, if you think faith and belief the same, please prove your own > > > > > > > > contention; unless you prove that, I and no one else have any reason > > > > > > > > to consider them the same thing.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.
It is also true that the attitude of the believer, as compared with that of the scientific observer, is strongly personal, and interested in the object of belief.
^ I have posited a more nefarious reason: True Believers accuse atheism of being a belief system to confuse the argument and anger atheists.

^ Those who know, believe, understand, and have a TRUE "personal" relationship with God, could NEVER turn their backs on Him.

^ I dont personally believe that you have to hold any belief in reincarnation to practice Buddhism.

.But this contrast of personal with impersonal attitudes affords no justification for regarding belief as wholly blind.^ I, if an hard agnostic, > would only be able to state a belief in that regard as, "I have no beliefs > either way."
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ But theism is also personal, as over against certain philosophical theories which in opposition to theism regard the world-ground as impersonal.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ No one maintains a full belief in reason, because 'Reason is blind'.
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

.It is unfair to generalize these two attitudes into mutually exclusive philosophies.^ The two aren't mutually exclusive.
  • The Audacity of Agnosticism - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC reason.com [Source type: Original source]

^ There are two dangers: One is that, if were too loose in our adherence to the integrity of the Buddhist tradition, then all these practices and philosophies and psychologies could easily just get absorbed into other fields.

^ But there are a number of areas in philosophy, in science, and in life in general that the idea of God fits neatly into.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

.The moral ideal of conscience is different from the cold, impartial ideal of physical science.^ We are conscious only of isolated impressions and their ideal shadows, and to establish an inner connection between the different states of consciousness is impossible.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.Truths which nourish the moral life of the soul, and shape conduct, cannot wait for acceptance, like purely scientific truths, until theoretical reason studies the problem thoroughly.^ And we can therefore readily believe that the antinomies of reason and the dark mysteries of moral life find their solution in that Highest Self-Consciousness, in which thought and being are one.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ He knows that human nature, like murder, will out, and the moral promptings which are expressions of so many thousands of generations of associated life cannot be prevented expressing themselves by the most anti-social religious teachings."
  • Agnosticism and the Christian World View 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.edwardtbabinski.us [Source type: Original source]

^ It is this truth or falsehood possibility that makes the framework of logical reasoning relevant to the problem, at least to the extent of forming some sense of the probability of truth of the proposition.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

.They present distinct motives for the conscience to appreciate actively, not for the speculative reason to contemplate passively.^ When one hundred people are able to say that the consciousness of The Presence of God is today the most important fact in their lives, they present a powerful reason why one should have faith.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

Conscience appreciates the moral value of testimonies, commands their acceptance, and bids the intellect to "ponder them with assent".
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It is wrong, therefore, to liken the function of conscience to that of speculative reason, to apply to the solution of moral and religious questions the methods of the exact sciences, to give to the latter the monopoly of all certitude, and to declare the region beyond scientific knowledge a region of nescience and blind belief.
^ It is to the testimony of conscience, to the Categorical Imperative, founded on the judgment of the practical reason, that Kant trusted to deliver us from the illusions and contradictions of the speculative reason, and though his criticism of the pure reason, if applied rigidly to the practical reason, might have cut the ground from under his feet, he nevertheless held fast to belief in God, in moral freedom, and in immortality, as principles of the spiritual life and deep-laid realities beyond the challenge of the critical intellect.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ I think you would be hard pressed to argue that the modern, advanced world today functions on anything but advanced scientific knowledge.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Why all the pressure to declare belief in something (or lack thereof) about something so unrelated to your experience?
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

.On the assumption that the knowledge and the definable are synonymous terms, the "first principles of thought" are transferred from the category of knowledge to that of belief, but the transfer is arbitrary.^ We cannot think Him away; for without the assumption explicit or implied of His existence, all ratiocinated thought becomes empty and cannot conclude in knowledge.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ The belief of theism is built on the knowledge of a belief, but it is still termed as knowledge even though it is false.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Gettier's problems acknowledged, if we define knowledge as a "justified, true belief," then there is no issue.

.It is too much to suppose that we know only what we can explain.^ Only the smart people would be saved if you needed to know so much.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ I know there is not a God with as much certainty as I know anything, but I maintain that only a fool adopts any position with such fervor as to be impervious to revision upon further evidence.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

.The mistake is in making a general philosophy out of a particular method of scientific explanation.^ If there is always another explanation- that a god wouldn't act like humans, that we can never understand any gods, etc- the scientific method will not apply.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ On the contrary, some of us don't appreciate being compartmentalized in a group when the group's general dogma does not make a hospitable environment for those with contrary philosophies.
  • The Religion & Faith Debate (continued from "Liar Liar") - Forums | MacLife 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.maclife.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I should point out that many make the mistake that “belief” and “disbelief” are somehow symmetrical; they aren’t.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

.This criticism applies to all systematic attempts to divide the mind into opposite hemispheres of intellect and will, to divorce faith completely from knowledge.^ Buddhism is not saying that we need to dissolve all sense of difference and opposition and enter into a kind of mystical, oceanic oneness in which all sense of differentiation is gone.

^ The appeal to the conscience of the individual, as supreme in questions of faith, and the denial of the freedom of the will, had led to inquiries into the value of knowledge.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ I really feel that even with his knowledge of evolution, Dawson cannot adequately address the esoteric nature of faith without delving into history and philosophy.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

Consciousness is one and continuous. .Our distinctions should never amount to separations, nor should the "pragmatic" method now in vogue be raised to the dignity of a universal philosophy.^ This is a form of philosophy which gives priority to matter as the ground of the universe, and ignores the distinction between mind and matter.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

^ If I have to pick the one I am sure of to the point of faith, it’s that our little monkey brains can never grasp the magnitude of the universe and all the myriad of wonders it contains.
  • Friendly Atheist by @hemantsblog » Atheist Versus Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC friendlyatheist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Since we edit and orchestrate the signals that make up our personal share of the experienced world, we are never separate from it or from responsibility for it.

."The soul with its powers does not form an integral whole divided, or divisible, into non-communicating compartments of intellect and will; it is a potential inter-penetrative whole". (Baillie, "Revue de Philos.", April, 1904, p.^ Catholic doctrine, apparently, does not state whether or not Mary died, but tradition holds that she died and was immediately afterward assumed into heaven both body and soul.
  • A.D. - Bride of Christ | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.carm.org [Source type: Original source]

^ These he divided into three triads: (1) thrones, cherubim, and seraphim; (2) powers, lordships, authorities; (3) angels, archangels, principalities."-HODGE, Systematic Theology , I, pp.
  • H. Orton Wiley: Christian Theology - Chapter 11 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC wesley.nnu.edu [Source type: Original source]

.468.) In the solidary interaction of all man's powers the contributions furnished by will and conscience increase and vivify the meagre knowledge of God We are able to acquire by reasoning.^ "Why doesn’t God, who is all powerful, get rid of the devil?
  • Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: Original source]

^ God knew man would rebel as soon as he was given God-consciousness, but He still had to do the right thing and warn Adam and Even not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
  • 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www3.telus.net [Source type: Original source]

^ The sun was regarded as a god who fought the darkness, the power of evil, the enemy of man.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

VIII. AGNOSTICISM AND THE DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH

.The Agnostic denial of the ability of human reason to know God is directly opposed to Catholic Faith.^ Yes, we had been faithful, abjectly faithful to the God of Reason.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Agnosticism: We cannot know if god exists.
  • FARK.com: (4292172) Jesus will not be riding his dinosaur in Texas 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ We had been abjectly faithful to the God of Reason.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

.The Council of the Vatican solemnly declares that "God, the beginning and end of all, can, by the natural light of human reason, be known with certainty from the works of creation" (Const.^ While he hated Jehovah, he praised the God of Nature, the creator and preserver of all.
  • Why I Am Agnostic 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.infidels.org [Source type: Original source]
  • Why I Am an Agnostic (Robert G. Ingersoll) 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.positiveatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

^ The reason I dont think God would set up natural selection is because the criteria for God includes omnibenevolence, and I dont see an all-loving God setting up a mechanism that would eventually kill 99% of his creatures.
  • Atheism and Agnosticism | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ As I've said many times, atheists can and do admire the human ingenuity and craftsmanship that went into creating great works of religious art and literature.
  • Daylight Atheism > A Memo to Fence-Sitting Agnostics 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.daylightatheism.org [Source type: Original source]

De Fide, II, De Rev.) The intention of the Council was to reassert the historic claim of Christianity to be reasonable, and to condemn Traditionalism together with all views which denied to reason the power to know God with certainty. .Religion would be deprived of all foundation in reason, the motives of credibility would become worthless, conduct would be severed from creed, and faith be blind, if the power of knowing God with rational certainty were called in question.^ I wonder if we would know God, if we found God?

^ Is not faith in reason alone a dangerous creed?
  • What is an Agnostic? | Digital Absolution 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC digitalabsolution.com [Source type: Original source]

^ The other two questions are 1) Does that God care what we do and 2) Is that God all powerful?.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

The declaration of the Council was based primarily on scripture, not on any of the historic systems of philosophy. .The Council simply defined tile possibility of man's knowing God with certainty by reason apart from revelation.^ The belief that it is not possible to know if there is or is not a God.
  • A.D. - Bride of Christ | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.carm.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Rather than try and reason his way through it and conclude "I don't know", the second guy simply yelled out "BLACK!" and was immediately killed.
  • FARK.com: (4292172) Jesus will not be riding his dinosaur in Texas 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.fark.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]

^ Types of Agnostics > > Zero-data agnostics, who allow that it is possible to know whether or not > > God exists, but no one does in fact know it for the simple reason that there > > is zero data regarding the matter.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.The possibility of knowing God was not affirmed of any historical individual in particular; the statement was limited to the power of human reason, not extended to the exercise of that power in any given instance of time or person.^ They have given thought to what a god is, and they do > > not know.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ If it's possible then a personal god is possible.

^ They have given thought to what a god is, and they do > > > not know.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

.The definition thus took on the feature of the objective statement: Man can certainly know God by the "physical" power of reason when the latter is rightly developed, even though revelation be "morally" necessary for mankind in the bulk, when the difficulties of reaching a prompt, certain, and correct knowledge of God are taken into account.^ Powerful, but not necessary to rationalize moral behavior.
  • Agnostic and afterlife | We Saved Hitler's Brain | Cracked.com Forums 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.cracked.com [Source type: Original source]

^ I do not believe in God for the sole purpose that a belief does not produce knowledge about the physical universe.
  • onegoodmove: Agnosticism 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC onegoodmove.org [Source type: Original source]

^ Man's irresistible longing for knowledge springs from the need of bringing his conceptions into harmony with the divine thoughts.
  • Religion, Agnosticism and Education2 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC maritain.nd.edu [Source type: Original source]

.What conditions were necessary for this right development of reason, how much positive education was required to equip the mind for this task of knowing God and some of His attributes with certainty, the Council did not profess to determine.^ E: How do you know which morality is the right morality?
  • Agnostic-text 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.widerquist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ E: Then, how do you know that the directions are right?
  • Agnostic-text 10 February 2010 10:55 UTC www.widerquist.com [Source type: Original source]

^ They claim to know the mind of god.

.Neither did it undertake to decide whether the function of reason in this case is to derive the idea of God wholly from reflection on the data furnished by sense, or merely to bring out into explicit form, by means of such data, an idea already instinctive and innate.^ But the God idea did.
  • Chapter Four: We Agnostics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.soberrecovery.com [Source type: Original source]

^ So, in my case, I accept Socrates because it fits into my Web of Belief, continue to accept God -- provisionally, 'cause that's what belief is -- because it is already there, and reject the Egyptian gods because they conflict with the existing belief of God.
  • Agnosticism - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC groups.google.com [Source type: Original source]

^ In the same way, if you want to engage with people on whether it is reasonable for them to be an agnostic about gods existence, it doesn't seem reasonable to then redefine agnosticism in such a way that it no longer matches their beliefs, and then tell them their beliefs are wrong.
  • Silly Beliefs - Agnostics - Reader's Comments 19 September 2009 15:53 UTC www.sillybeliefs.com [Source type: Original source]

The former view, that of Aristotle had the preference; but the latter view, that of Plato, was not condemned. .God's indirect manifestations of Himself in the mirror of nature, in the created world of things and persons, were simply declared to be true sources of knowledge distinct from revelation.^ Are you stating that you believe in God, or is it just that the god you believe in doesn’t/wouldn’t/can’t involve himself in the affairs of the material world?
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Q: Why has God created people who do bad things in life (i.e.
  • VEDA - Vedas and Vedic Knowledge Online - Vedic Encyclopedia, Bhakti-yoga in vedas, Library 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC www.veda.harekrsna.cz [Source type: Original source]

^ My faith is in an all-powerful God who created all that is for Himself and His glory.
  • WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | From youth group to agnosticism – Part 1 19 January 2010 9:51 UTC online.worldmag.com [Source type: Original source]

Portions of this entry are taken from The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1907.

Simple English

[[File:|thumb|Sir Bertrand Russell was a famous agnostic. This photograph shows him in 1907.]]

Agnosticism is the philosophical view that it is unknown (or even, unknowable) whether any deities (god or gods) exist or not. Some people who call themselves "agnostic" say that it is not possible for anyone ever to know if there are any deities or not. Other agnostics, though, say only that they themselves currently do not know if there are any deities.

There are several different kinds of agnosticism:

  • Absolute agnosticism (also called hard agnosticism, closed agnosticism, strict agnosticism, strong agnosticism) is the belief that it is not possible to know whether a god/gods exists or not.
  • Empirical agnosticism (also called soft agnosticism, open agnosticism, weak agnosticism, temporal agnosticism) is the belief that at present there is not enough information to know whether any god/gods exists or not, but that we might find out someday.
  • Apathetic agnosticism is the belief that it does not matter whether any god/gods exists or not.

People often have difficulty telling agnosticism and atheism apart. Atheists do not have a belief in the existence of deities, and some claim to be quite sure that no deity exists. Some (perhaps most) atheists, though, state that it is up to theists or those who believe in a deity to give the evidence for a god or to show why someone should believe in a god. They state that there is neither enough evidence nor a strong enough argument to believe any gods exist, and so they reject belief that any exist. While agnostics think we cannot know for sure whether any deities exist, some agnostics do believe at least one deity exists. These people are both agnostic and theistic--they believe at least one deity exists, but do not claim to know that to be true. Some people are both atheist and agnostic--they reject belief in any deities without claiming to know that deities do not exist. Some agnostics just cannot themselves decide whether to believe any deities exist or not.

Beliefs Related to Agnosticism

  • Ignosticism is the belief that the idea of god/gods does not have a good enough definition, so saying "god exists" or "god does not exist" does not mean anything. Some people think ignosticism is a kind of agnosticism, some people think it is a kind of atheism, and some people think it is different from both.
  • Agnostic theism is when people mostly believe in god/gods but are not completely certain.
  • Agnostic atheism is the view that a god/gods may or may not exist, but there is no good reason to believe they do.
  • Post-theism is the view that religion used to be important, but is not anymore.

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