== The Comic Book Rumbles Board == is a
message board currently
located on the
Comic Book Resources discussion board.
Its purpose is the debate of battles between fictional characters
(with a strong comic book slant). Originally located on the
ElectricFerret site, it has since moved to the Comic Book Resources
messageboard.
Posters of the board refer to it has having gone
through seperate 'Ages', currently it is in the 4th
Age.
History
The Ages
The First Age
The
Second Age
The Third Age
The Fourth Age
Fifth Age?
Rules of Rumbling
In most
cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines
the conditions of the fight itself. However, in the cases where the
original poster did not set down any contraints or conditions for
the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules
below.
01. Prep time: Neither side receives any notable prep
time before the starting bell. Neither side may take any offensive
or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed
and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions
such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously
activating powers is not. For example,
Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-
Avengers ray'
before the fight.
02. Standard Equipment: Each side starts out
with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to
consistently carry on them. For example,
Daredevil would
have his billy-club, but
Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate
Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose
city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any
material resources they usually have there or of any team they're
active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For
example, in a scenario set in the DCU,
Green Lantern would have access to
equipment in the
JLA Watchtower, but not the
Titans
headquarters.
03. Basic knowledge: Each side receives basic
knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the
general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example,
that
Superman has a
weakness to
Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's
Clark Kent is not.
04. Bloodlust: It is assumed that each
contestant in the arena will fight to his/her best ability. That
means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even
though
The Flash
doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in
his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board
since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of
speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their
optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually
powered up for those who have variable power levels.
05.
Setting: The default battle area is the Arena of Khazan, a colossal
arena that looks somewhat like a Roman
Amphitheatre. It is typically a 250 feet
by 200 feet ellipse, though the size is adjustable in accordance to
the size of the contestants; the opposing sides start out about 100
feet from one another. The Arena of Khazan is itself next to
completely indestructable. The audience are protected from stray
energy blasts/debis/body parts by a godly powered forcefield. The
ground of the arena itself does not have this protection, nor is
the skydome covered by it. Somewhere in the arena is located a
commentators box (location seems to vary).
06. No outside help:
Unless specified otherwise, no contestant may call for outside
assistance, even in scenario matches. For example,
Captain America
cannot call in the Avengers during a fight with Batman.
07.
Leaving the field: Combatants who leave the field of combat on
purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena
against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and
can make it back under their own power, then they are still in the
fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return
under their own power, then they have lost.
PIS/CIS/SMvsFL
What is PIS?
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is
when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest
extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for
the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters
an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the
comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than
three panels, or
Toy Man
as a threat to Superman. Standard CBR fights exempt the contestants
from PIS unless otherwise specified.
What is CIS?
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, refers to any natural
mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and
reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers
effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot
requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb.
Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as
Rhino or
Jar Jar
Binks. Standard CBR fights do not exempt the contestants from
CIS.
Spider-man versus Firelord Exemption
Spider-Man
vs.
Firelord, or SvFL,
is shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a
feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient
for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to
the character's overall established career, as well as the
character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms,
it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the
character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman
defeating a Herald of
Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however,
Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has
done so frequently under different writers.
For standard CBR
fights, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not
valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set
canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman
and Mike Grell's run of
Iron Man, both characters were out of character and
did things very much against established canon; therefore those
runs are disregarded.
Controversy of the Spider-man versus
Firelord Exemption
In the history of the Comic Book Rumbles
board, several posters have attempted to challenge the title case
of Spider-man versus Firelord being a case of a character's
established past showings being contracted. As of this moment, none
of these challenges were successful, and it is doubtful any will be
in the future.
A popular arguement tactic for this challenge is
bringing up times when Spiderman has beaten stronger oponents,
absolutely none of which are anywhere close to comparable to a
Herald of Galactus, which is where this idiot tactic falls
down.
Notable Posts
Posts
than ask the question of what happens when a character or group of
characters from a series is dropped into the setting of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Eventually, such threads involve the result of the
Hellmouth being locked and
barred... from the inside.
Anime Related Posts
Ranma versus Kenshin
This megathread is again from the Third
Age. Not quite as big as the others, it ended in what was
considered a 'draw.'
Other
Sit and Talk
Posts
The sit and talk posts involve at least two characters
doing nothing but sitting down and talking with each other. (IE:
Superman sits and talks with Captain America). Usually these are
done to see how characters would interact with each other normally
and what they would think of one another, and are done for humorous
reasons. A popular Sit & Talk character is Deadpool, due to his
humorous nature.
Regarding Dragonball Z
Several
threads depicting scenarios between characters of the long-running
Shounen manga/anime series Dragonball Z and characters of other
universes have run on, hardly ever achieving a conclusive answer to
the conflict and usually requiring moderator intervention to end.
This is due to the rules of CBR which require users to present
feats of characters of evidence. Unfortunately the canon of
Dragonball Z does not contain much more than what one sees on the
page - which isn't quantitatively narrated, thus many arguments are
based on assumption - and this erupts into aggressive flame wars
between the sides. Infamous threads such as Goku vs Superman, which
in itself is a long standing debate across internet factions, run
wild because of both parties have inconsistent showings and
incarnations. It is especially difficult to assess Dragonball Z
because the series runs on a simple logic of "A>B>C" across
character conflicts, and thus cannot really be gauged on a relative
scale from its own universe.
Trolls
Trolls aren't
uncommon to the Rumbles Board or to the internet in general,
unfortunately. It would be very nice if the racist jackasses such
as the one currently plaguing this entry were to suddenly grow
brains and stop acting like they were afraid people would know they
needed a microscope and a pair of tweezers to take a piss.