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Hard to Swallow
Studio album by Vanilla Ice
Released October 20, 1998 (1998-10-20)[1]
Recorded 1997–1998
Genre Nu metal, rap metal
Length 49:46
Label Republic/Universal/MCA Records
Producer Ross Robinson
Professional reviews
Vanilla Ice chronology
Mind Blowin
Hard to Swallow
Singles from Hard to Swallow
  1. "Too Cold"
    Released: 1998
  2. "S.N.A.F.U."
    Released: 1998

Hard to Swallow is the third studio album by American rapper Robert Van Winkle under the name Vanilla Ice. Released by Republic Records in 1998, the album was the first album the performer recorded after a four year hiatus following the 1994 release of Mind Blowin. Van Winkle intended the new musical direction found on the album as an attempt to move away from hip hop music and discard his former pop image. Hard to Swallow instead featured what Van Winkle described as "skate rock", a fusion of heavy metal, punk rock and hip hop. The album features appearances from Amen vocalist, Casey Chaos, Bloodhound Gang vocalist Jimmy Pop, and Insane Poetry front man Cyco. Session musicians included drummer Shannon Larkin, keyboardist Scott Borland and Snot guitarist Sonny Mayo.

Van Winkle took an interest in the musical style found on Hard to Swallow while performing as a member of a Miami grunge band, and was able to develop this sound through a friendship with producer Ross Robinson, with whom he shared an interest in motocross racing. Robinson produced the album after being advised against working with Van Winkle. The album's darker lyrical subject matter developed from conversations between Robinson and Van Winkle, in which Robinson encouraged him to write about his past. Subjects included Van Winkle's abusive childhood, drug addiction and struggles with fame. Although Republic Records believed that the album would revive Vanilla Ice's career, it received largely negative reviews and did not chart.



Robert Van Winkle, better known under the stage name Vanilla Ice, was briefly a member of a band called Pickin' Scabs, which he described as being "like a grunge band."[7] Van Winkle had wanted to perform more hip hop-influenced rock music, but states that the band "didn't know how to play this sound that I was looking for."[7]

During a conversation with Monty Lipman, a founder of Republic Records and former SBK Records promoter, Lipman asked if Van Winkle had heard of Ross Robinson. When Van Winkle told him that he hadn't, Lipman told Van Winkle some of the bands that Robinson had worked with, such as Korn, Limp Bizkit, Sepultura and Deftones, and that Robinson was interested in working with Van Winkle.[7]

Van Winkle states that he and Robinson were "totally clicking right off the bat" when it was discovered that they both shared an interest in motocross racing.[7]

According to Robinson, others had attempted to persuade him not to produce the album. "People kept saying to me, 'It might hurt your name, it might hurt your reputation. I said, 'Then I'm doing it.' It's the most punk-rock thing you could do."[8]

Van Winkle states that "It's unbelievable how this whole thing just came about. I really believe that it was an action of God. God pushing my wave and riding it. And Ross is one of those people and Monty is one of those people that God put in front of me and I'm being blessed right now."[7]


Initial publicity claimed that the album would feature guest appearances by Lenny Kravitz and members of Korn and the Bloodhound Gang.[9][10] Only the latter band's lead vocalist, Jimmy Pop, appeared on the final album.[9] "Freestyle" features an appearance by Cyco, a founding member of the influential horrorcore group Insane Poetry.[11] Preceding the release of the album, executives at Republic Records compared Vanilla Ice's career direction to the revival of actor John Travolta as a result of the success of Pulp Fiction, and believed that Vanilla Ice would be similarly successful.[12]

Drummer Shannon Larkin stated of the album "I'm proud of that one. That was a killer record. Producer Ross Robinson is very demanding when it comes to drums in the studio. Everything had to be 110% for that guy, and I love him for that."[13] Van Winkle stated of working with Robinson, "The vibe was totally so cool. We had the album finished in a month and a half because we kept the vibe."[14]

Musical and lyrical style

In the early stages of the album's development, it was promoted as an album of "high-energy hip-hop."[15][9] Republic Records later described the album's musical style as "aggressive rock" in the stages preceding the album's release.[9] Vanilla Ice referred to the album's musical style as "skate rock."[12] The album's dark and thick sound fuses elements of heavy metal, punk rock and hip hop.[16] Van Winkle stated that "I wanted to express myself in a very intense way, and there was no way it was going to happen with a drum machine. Basically, I'm bored with drum machines and samples and stuff. With a band, they can build the energy around me."[17] Many critics have noticed a similarity between the style of music present on Hard to Swallow and that of bands such as Korn and Limp Bizkit.[18][19] Van Winkle states that although he knew of the bands, he "didn't even listen to [...] any of them" before he made the album, and he was not trying to imitate the musical style of the bands. "It's just we have the same producer, and some of the guitars between that and Limp Bizkit are gonna sound similar. That's what happens when you've got the same guy producing them. [...] I had heard the Deftones more than any of them."[7]

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The album features a noticeably darker sound and lyrical subject matter than Vanilla Ice's previous albums, such as To The Extreme and Mind Blowin. The album was described by CNN as a "shrill confessional" on which the performer "flays his '80s persona, his fractured family and Attention Deficit Disorder, which he has."[14] Van Winkle states that "A lot of people think I'm satanic now that they've heard the record, and it's so dark. But that's not true. It just comes out dark because that's the way I feel I've been treated. It's just real, man, that's all I can say about it. There's no strings attached."[17] Van Winkle states that the album "wasn't intended to be so dark. I opened up to Ross and I told him a lot of things that happened to me in the past. It was like, really deep conversation, and he was like, you should write about that. And I was like, dude, I didn't want people to judge me for that. But he was right. It was like total therapy."[14]

The subjects focused on in the album's lyrics include Van Winkle's abusive childhood and drug addiction. Van Winkle stated that "I wrote 'Fuck Me' 'cause I know how I've been perceived. "I can look back at the whole Vanilla Ice thing, and it was played way out. It was just an image thing. I was always real to the music. But it built a huge hurdle for me to get over musically. A lot of people didn't even want to admit they bought a Vanilla Ice record."[17] "Too Cold" is a rap rock remake of Vanilla Ice's biggest hit, "Ice Ice Baby".[20] Van Winkle states that he remade the song because "I wanted to let people know that I'm not running from anything. This is me. This is what I'm about. I think the music speaks for itself. If the music was whack, nobody'd even care to hear anything about no Vanilla Ice. I just think the music is so strong people are kinda comin' out of the closet. It's like, 'You know, hey, I bought it back in the day, and the new stuff is slammin'.' I think there's some hip-hop influenced, stage-diving, body piercing, tattooed white boys out there who are embracing this new sound."[17] "Too Cold" was originally intended to be released as a hidden track or B-side.[17]


"Too Cold" became a radio hit in some markets.[17] Reviews of the album were generally negative. A reviewer for the New Times in Los Angeles referred to the album as "stupid, exploitive, derivative rap-metal by the man who once did nearly irrepairable damage to hip-hop."[17] Jon Pareles of The New York Times wrote that "If history is any guide, Vanilla Ice's adoption of rap-metal means that hard rock is about to move on."[5] Richard Torres of Rolling Stone gave the album two out of five stars, writing that while "nothing, however, can redeem Ice's wack boasting," the album "isn't half-bad."[6] The New Rolling Stone Album Guide gave the album three out of five stars.[21] The Iowa State Daily called the album "the greatest pop culture comeback of all time".[22] The album did not chart.[23] The album appeared on The A.V. Club's list of the "Least Essential Albums of the '90s,"[24] at number 24 on Maxim's list of the "30 Worst Albums of All Time",[25] and number 26 on Q's list of the "50 Worst Albums Ever!"[26] Vanilla Ice released a follow-up album, Bi-Polar, in 2001, which continued the performer's artistic and career direction.[27]

Track listing

# Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Living"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 3:45
2. "Scars"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 4:56
3. "Ecstacy"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 0:09
4. "Fuck Me"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 4:32
5. "Valley Of Tears"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 0:12
6. "Zig Zag Stories"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 5:26
7. "Too Cold"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 3:24
8. "Prozac"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 4:27
9. "S.N.A.F.U."   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 4:46
10. "A.D.D."   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 5:14
11. "Stompin' Through the Bayou"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 3:24
12. "The Horny Song"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 4:33
13. "Freestyle"   Van Winkle, Robinson, Ordito, Chaos, Borland, Larkin, Mayo, Holoman and Johnson 4:58

Album credits

  • Ross Robinson — Producer, Mixing
  • Chuck Johnson — Recording Engineer, Mixing
  • Rob Agnello — Sound Engineer
  • Eddy Schreyer — Mastering
  • Gene Grimaldi — Editing, Assembly



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