.^ Hesiod is a very different epic poet than Homer: he composes in a catalogue style which is thought to be traditional to his region.- Iliad, Mythological Bckgnd, Univ. of Saskatchewan 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC homepage.usask.ca [Source type: Original source]
^ Similarly, without Ovid, Dante would not be the poet-hero of his own poem, and without Virgil and ultimately Homer, Ovid would not be the self-conscious epic poet so familiar to us.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer is traditionally considered to be the author of the the Iliad and the Odyssey , the great early epics of Greek literature .- Homer Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.encyclopedia.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Many of the works once attributed to him are lost; those which remain are the two great epics, the Iliad and the Odyssey, thirty-three Hymns , a mock epic (the Battle of the Frogs and Mice ), and some pieces of a few lines each (the so-called Epigrams).
^ Works, Life, and Legends Two epic poems are attributed to Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey.- Homer Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.encyclopedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Finally there is the "Battle of the Frogs and Mice".- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ Ancient Accounts of Homer.
-
.^ Of the date of Homer probably no record, real or pretended, ever existed.
^ I mean did Homer really exist?- homer : Messages : 491-520 of 607 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC groups.yahoo.com [Source type: General]
^ These things I have heard, and I have read the oracles, but express no private opinion about either the age or date of Homer.- Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.mlahanas.de [Source type: Original source]
Herodotus (ii. 53)
maintains that
Hesiod and
Homer lived not more than 400 years 1 This article was thoroughly
revised by Dr D. B. Monro before his death in 1905; a few points
have since been added by Mr. T. W. Allen.
before his own time, consequently not much before
.^ B.C. From the controversial tone in which he expresses himself it is evident that others had made Homer more ancient; and accordingly the dates given by later authorities, though very various, generally fall within the 10th and itth centuries B.C. But none of these statements has any claim to the character of external evidence.
^ The other lives are certainly not more ancient.
^ A pity more is not written about Princess Ktimene -- Odysseus' sister -- unfortunately Homer refers to her but once and has her given away to a Samian prince.
.^ The extant lives of Homer (edited in Westermann's Vitarum Scriptores Graeci minores ) are eight in number, including the piece called the Contest of Hesiod and Homer.
^ The longest is written in the Ionic dialect , and bears the name of Herodotus, but is certainly spurious.
^ In fact, Herodotus , the fifth century historian, says that Homer and Hesiod , an epic poet contemporary with Homer, first named the gods, determined their honors and functions and devised their physical appearance (2.53).- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ In all probability it belongs to the time which was fruitful beyond all others in literary forgeries, viz.
^ What the farmer was saying was that this horse had been a horse beyond all other horses, a horse who had fought like a man and died like a hero.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
^ But even beyond the song culture, beyond Greek civilization, the epic lives on even in our time, and the wonder of it all is that one of its heroes himself foretold it.- Heroes and the Homeric Iliad 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.uh.edu [Source type: Original source]
the and century of our era.'
.^ The other lives are certainly not more ancient.
^ The choice of Israel was unique: Greece retained far more of the lower ancient ideas, but gave to them a beauty of grace and form which is found among no other race.
^ Other gods have been before him and they are also immortal, they too still live although they do not govern any more.- Homer (1954) - Page Three 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bard.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ And in the case of these epics, we cannot even define precisely what we mean by composition: the Homeric epics were composed in an oral poetic tradition that developed without the use of writing, but writing (which ultimately put an end to the oral composition of Greek poetry) has preserved for us these two poems.
^ Some papyrus fragments preserved in the dry climate of Egypt do survive which shed light upon the text of the Homeric poems before Alexandrian scholarship went to work collecting and freezing a single, definitive version of the poems.
^ The paradox of such great literature --for we cannot call the Homeric poems anything else--in an oral formular style has inevitably provoked the compromise, accepted by many, that, although Homer came at the end of a long oral tradition, his poems are so good that they must have been composed with the aid of writing; they are 'oral- derived'.- DIDASKALIA: Ancient Theater Today 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.didaskalia.net [Source type: Original source]
.^ These are easily recognized as " Popular Rhymes," a form of folk- lore to be met with in most countries, treasured by the people as a kind of proverbs.
^ Votive offerings, cheap curses, objects of folk-lore rite and of sympathetic magic,—these are connected with the popular, the peasant aspect of the religion of Demeter.
^ Now as such ideas as these occur among races utterly removed from contact with Egypt, as they are part of the European folk-lore of the visits of mortals to fairyland (in which it is p.
.^ In the Homeric epigrams the interest turns sometimes on the characteristics of particular localities - Smyrna and Cyme ( Epigr.
iv.),
Erythrae (
Epigr.
vi., vii.),
.^ Mt Ida ( Epigr.
x.), Neon Teichos (
Epigr. i.); others relate to
certain trades or occupations - potters (
Epigr. xiv.),
sailors, fishermen,
goat herds,
&c.
.^ Some may be fragments of longer poems, but evidently they are not the work of any one poet.
^ What kind of text we are dealing with matters far more, for editing and interpreting Homer, than other questions, like whether the Iliad and Odyssey are the creations of one single poet (they are, in my view), or when the poems were created.- DIDASKALIA: Ancient Theater Today 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.didaskalia.net [Source type: Original source]
^ Jan 2010: Charlotte Higgins: Hardly any of the Greek poet's work survives, but the fragments that remain are enough to make her immortal .- Homer | Books | guardian.co.uk 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.guardian.co.uk [Source type: News]
.^ The fact that they were all ascribed to Homer merely means that they belong to a period in the history of the Ionian and Aeolian colonies when " Homer " was a name which drew to itself all ancient and popular verse.
^ They filmed all of this which was exciting in itself.
^ After all, Homer Davenport was a household name.- Homer Davenport 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.ochcom.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ Again, comparing the " epigrams " with the legends and anecdotes told in the Lives of Homer, we can hardly doubt that they were the chief source from which these Lives were derived.
^ One can hardly imagine the hundreds of Ph.D. theses on every aspect of Homeric epic, from archaeological details to art representations to Near Eastern connections.........
^ These guys were amazing; they live it and breathe it just like me!- HOMER HART on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.myspace.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
Thus in Epigr.
iv. we find a blind poet, a native of
.^ Aeolian Smyrna, through which flows the water of the sacred Meles.
.^ Here is doubtless the source of the chief incident of the Herodotean Life - the birth of Homer " Son of the Meles."
^ The Epigrams of Homer The "Epigrams of Homer" are derived from the pseudo-Herodotean "Life of Homer", but many of them occur in other documents such as the "Contest of Homer and Hesiod", or are quoted by various ancient authors.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
^ Here Homer focuses on the art of dress; and in the Homeric world of relationships, sources and origins are to be borne in mind, in this case, weaving.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ The epithet Aeolian implies high antiquity, inasmuch as according to Herodotus Smyrna became Ionian about 688 B.C. Naturally the Ionians had their own version of the story - a version which made Homer come out with the first Athenian colonists.
^ He made a law: any singer or bard who came to Athens had to recite all they knew of Homer for the Athenian scribes, who recorded each version and collated them into what we now call the Iliad and Odyssey.- Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.mlahanas.de [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer lived in the ninth century BCE, according to the Greek historian Herodotus, and is credited with the composition of two epic poems the Iliad and the Odyssey.
.^ The model can even be extended from Homer to Homeric song.- Heroes and the Homeric Iliad 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.uh.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ The same line of argument may be extended to the Hymns, and even to some of the lost works of the post-Homeric or so-called " Cyclic " poets.
^ Homer sometimes nods even the greatest expert may make a mistake ( nods here means ‘becomes drowsy’, implying a momentary lack of attention).- Homer Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.encyclopedia.com [Source type: Original source]
Thus: i.
.^ The hymn to the Delian Apollo ends with an address of the poet to his audience .
^ When the hymn was ended, the Ionians made him a citizen of each one of their states, and the Delians wrote the poem on a whitened tablet and dedicated it in the temple of Artemis.- CONTEST OF HOMER AND HESIOD 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.homer.com.mx [Source type: Original source]
^ T.W. Allen suggests that the conjured Delian and Pythian hymns to Apollo ("Homeric Hymns" III) may have suggested this version of the story, the Pythian hymn showing strong continental influence.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
When any
stranger comes and asks who is the sweetest singer, they are to
answer with one voice, the " blind man that dwells in rocky
Chios; his songs deserve the prize
for all time to come."
Thucydides, who quotes this passage to show
the ancient character of the Delian festival, seems to have no
doubt of the Homeric authorship of the hymn.
.^ Hence we may most naturally account for the belief that Homer was a Chian.
^ Homer never married and in his most productive years lived a highly secluded life, seemingly content according to his letters and family accounts.- http://www.askart.com/askart/artist.aspx?artist=21592 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.askart.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ All in all, the belief in the reality of an actual "Homer" may have more scholarly adherents now than in the 19th century.
2. The
Margites - a humorous poem which kept its ground
as the reputed work of Homer down to the time of
Aristotle - began with the
words, " There came to
Colophon an old man, a divine singer,
servant
of the Muses and Apollo." Hence doubtless the claim of Colophon to
be the native city of Homer - a claim supported in the early times
of Homeric learning by the Colophonian poet and grammarian
Antimachus.
.^ The poem called the Cypria was said to have been given by Homer to Stasinus of Cyprus as a daughter's dowry .
^ The quotation from the Iliad is of interest because it is made in order to show that Homer supported the story of the travels of Paris to Egypt and Sidon (whereas the Cyclic poem called the Cypria ignored them), and also because the part of the Iliad from which it comes is cited as the " Aristeia of Diomede."
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
.^ The connexion with Cyprus appears further in the predominance given in the poem to Aphrodite .
^ The poem called the Cypria was said to have been given by Homer to Stasinus of Cyprus as a daughter's dowry .
.^ The Little Iliad and the Phocais, according to the Herodotean life, were composed by Homer when he lived at Phocaea with a certain Thestorides, who carried them off to Chios and there gained fame by reciting them as his own.
^ The community was named for Homer Pennock, a gold mining company promoter, who arrived in 1896 and built living quarters for his crew of 50 on the Spit.- Homer Alaska - Bed and Breakfast and Weather information - Hotels Tours Photos Jobs 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.welcometoalaska.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer lived in the ninth century BCE, according to the Greek historian Herodotus, and is credited with the composition of two epic poems the Iliad and the Odyssey.
.^ The name Thestorides occurs in Epigr.
.^ See a paper in the Diss .
Philol. Halenses, ii. 97-219.
.^ Compare the Popular Rhymes of Scotland , published by Robert Chambers .
.^ A similar story was told about the poem called the Taking of Oechalia (OiXaXias "AXwois), the subject of which was one of the exploits of Heracles.
^ Greeks of the archaic and classical periods looked upon Homer as their greatest, as well one of their earliest poets, and various stories grew up about his life.
^ This is a great story about the 14 year old kid who's calling plays for the Ravens.I'm now rooting for the Ravens because I'm a big softie.- 1530HOMER.COM - The Official Home of the Bengals 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.1530homer.com [Source type: General]
.^ It passed under the name of Creophylus , a friend or (as some said) a son-in-law of Homer; but it was generally believed to have been in fact the work of the poet himself.
^ In fact, Herodotus , the fifth century historian, says that Homer and Hesiod , an epic poet contemporary with Homer, first named the gods, determined their honors and functions and devised their physical appearance (2.53).- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer: [ reading ] Cosby's First Law of Inter-generational Perversity: No matter what you tell your child to do, he will always do the opposite.- Homer and His Brain 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC homy.tripod.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Finally the Thebaid always counted as the work of Homer.
^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
.^ As to the Epigoni , which carried on the Theban story, some doubt seems to have been felt.
^ Yet, as stale as some of those values may seem, this story still appeals.
.^ What two poems is Homer famous?- Homer Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.encyclopedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ These indications render it probable that the stories connecting Homer with different cities and islands grew up after his poems had become known and famous, especially in the new and flourishing colonies of Aeolis and Ionia .
^ (The recent claim that the Alexandrians knew 131 different versions of the Homeric poems is a mistake, based on T.W. Allen's calculation that the 'city' texts, a group of texts containing scholarly emendations, are mentioned 131 times in the scholia.- DIDASKALIA: Ancient Theater Today 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.didaskalia.net [Source type: Original source]
.^ The contention for Homer, in short, began at a time when his real history was lost, and he had become a sort of mythical figure, an " eponymous hero," or personification of a great school of poetry .
^ Tradition puts Homer and the Homeric poems proper back in the ages before chronological history began, and at the same time assigns the purely Cyclic poems to definite authors who are dated from the first Olympiad (776 B.C.) downwards.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
^ This short essay published in l791 spawned hundreds of books and thousands of articles which explored the hypothesis of Homer being only the last of the "Homers", and the Homeric poems having been assembled out of a lost world of bardic or ballad poetry.
.^ An interesting confirmation of this view from the negative side is furnished by the city which ranked as chief among the Asiatic colonies of Greece, viz.
Miletus.
.^ No legend claims for Miletus even a visit from Homer, or a share in the authorship of any Homeric poem.
^ If it proves anything, it proves that Cynaethus, who was a Chian and a rhapsodist, made no claim to Homeric descent.
^ Authentic, crystal-clear, explicit with no fudge or fumbling -- -- the Homeric poems are still there waiting to be read again.
.^ Yet Arctinus of Miletus was said to have been a " disciple of Homer," and was certainly one of the earliest and most considerable of the " Cyclic " poets.
^ Greeks of the archaic and classical periods looked upon Homer as their greatest, as well one of their earliest poets, and various stories grew up about his life.
^ It will be enough to observe that in the earliest elegiac poets, such as Archilochus , Tyrtaeus and Theognis, reminiscences of Homeric language and thought meet us on every page.
.^ His Aethiopis was composed as a sequel to the Iliad; and the structure and general character of his poems show that he took the Iliad as his model.
^ An analysis of the structure and vocabulary of the Iliad and Odyssey shows that the poems consist of regular, repeating phrases; even entire verses repeat.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
.^ Yet in his case we find no trace of the disputed.
^ It should be no surprise to find literary scholars "X-raying" documents and tracing Evolution in the world of poetry.
authorship which is so common with other "
Cyclic " poems.
.^ How has this come about?
.^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
^ The most obvious account of the matter is that Arctinus was never so far forgotten that his poems became the subject of dispute.
^ Works, Life, and Legends Two epic poems are attributed to Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey.- Homer Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.encyclopedia.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ We seem through him to obtain a glimpse of an early post-Homeric age in Ionia, when the immediate disciples and successors of Homer were distinct figures in a trustworthy tradition - when they had not yet merged their individuality in the legendary " Homer " of the Epic Cycle .
^ It seems, then, that if we imagine Homer as a singer in a royal house of the Homeric age, but with more freedom regarding the limits of his subject, and a more tranquil audience than is allowed him in the rapid movement of the Odyssey, we shall probably not be far from the truth.
^ Albert Lord was the Harvard professor who inherited the Milman Parry recordings of Serbian guslars or folk-poets in the 1930's, and developed the striking argument for a parallel between the post l600 Serbian oral poets and the poets of the Homeric Epic cycles.
Recitation of the Poems
.^ Homer : Because if I do it enough maybe they'll start to pay me.- The Simpsons Quotes : Homer Simpson | planetclaire.org 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.planetclaire.org [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer : All the time.- The Simpsons Quotes : Homer Simpson | planetclaire.org 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.planetclaire.org [Source type: Original source]
^ There is something suggestively messianic in all of this.
v. 67).
.^ This description applies very well to the Iliad, in which Argos and Argives occur on almost every page .
^ For this particular commentator on Homer's Iliad , Parry's hypothesis about the origins of the Homeric text influenced almost every line I wrote.- DIDASKALIA: Ancient Theater Today 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.didaskalia.net [Source type: Original source]
^ The very idea of nationhood is an incongruity if we apply it to the era when the Iliad and Odyssey took shape.- Heroes and the Homeric Iliad 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.uh.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ It may have suited the Thebaid still better, but there is no need to understand it only of that poem, as Grote does.
^ The list includes only the first edition of any particular translation and does not include reprints of earlier translations, partial translations, parodies, burlesques, adaptations, or re-workings of the poem.- Published English Translations of Homer's Iliad and Odyssey 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC records.viu.ca [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ F12] Homer: No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
.^ The incident shows that the poems of the Ionic Homer had gained in the 6th century B.C., and in the Doric parts of the Peloponnesus , the ascendancy, the national importance and the almost canonical character which they ever afterwards retained.
^ Scholars tried to analyze the two works by various tests, usually to show that they were strung together from older narrative poems.- Homer Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Homer 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.encyclopedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer lived in the ninth century BCE, according to the Greek historian Herodotus, and is credited with the composition of two epic poems the Iliad and the Odyssey.
.^ At Athens there was a law that the Homeric poems should be recited ( 1 5446a-eat ) on every occasion of the Panathenaea .
^ As there is no law in Homer, so there is no morality.
^ He made a law: any singer or bard who came to Athens had to recite all they knew of Homer for the Athenian scribes, who recorded each version and collated them into what we now call the Iliad and Odyssey .
.^ This law is appealed to as an especial glory of Athens by the orator Lycurgus ( Leocr.
^ The only good authorities as to this point are the orators Lycurgus and Isocrates , who mention the law prescribing the recitation, but do not say when or by whom it was enacted.
.^ Perhaps therefore the custom of public recitation was exceptional, 4 and unfortunately we do not know when or by whom it was introduced.
.^ The Platonic dialogue Hipparchus attributes it to Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus .
^ Again, the Platonic dialogue Hip parchus (which though not genuine is probably earlier than the Alexandrian times) asserts that Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus, first brought the poems to Athens, and obliged the rhapsodists at the Panathenaea to follow the order of the text, " as they still do," instead of reciting portions chosen at will.
^ It was inevitable that later writers should speculate about the authorship of such a law, and that it should be attributed with more or less confidence to Solon or Peisistratus or Hipparchus.
.^ This, however, is part of the historical romance of Compare the branch of myrtle at an Athenian feast (Aristoph., Nub., 1364).
.^ The Iliad was also recited at the festival of the Brauronia, at Brauron in Attica (Hesych.
s.v. spavpcovioes).
which the dialogue mainly consists.
.^ The author makes (perhaps wilfully) all the mistakes about the family of Peisistratus which Thucydides notices in a well-known passage (vi.
^ Well, perhaps all of this has been worthwhile.- [4F10] Mountain of Madness 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.snpp.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Against the theory which sees in Peisistratus the author of the first complete text of Homer we have to set the absolute silence of Herodotus, Thucydides, the orators and the Alexandrian grammarians.
54-59).
.^ In one point, however, the writer's testimony is valuable.
.^ He tells us that the law required the rhapsodists to recite " taking each other up in order (E v7roXip,GEcos E.r/)e ijs), as they still do."
^ Again, the Platonic dialogue Hip parchus (which though not genuine is probably earlier than the Alexandrian times) asserts that Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus, first brought the poems to Athens, and obliged the rhapsodists at the Panathenaea to follow the order of the text, " as they still do," instead of reciting portions chosen at will.
^ It was necessary, of course, to divide the poem to be recited into parts, and to compel each contending rhapsodist to take the part assigned to him.
.^ This recurs in a different form in the statement of Diogenes Laertius (i.
.^ Solon made a law that the poems should be recited " with prompting " (E inro/30Xij).
^ It was inevitable that later writers should speculate about the authorship of such a law, and that it should be attributed with more or less confidence to Solon or Peisistratus or Hipparchus.
^ At Athens there was a law that the Homeric poems should be recited ( 1 5446a-eat ) on every occasion of the Panathenaea .
.^ The question as between Solon and Hipparchus cannot be settled; but it is at least clear that a due order of recitation was secured by the presence of a person charged to give the rhapsodists their cue (uiro(iXXav).
^ Only that Homer was recited in fragments by the rhapsodists, and that these partial recitations were made into a continuous whole by Peisistratus; which does not necessarily mean more than that Peisistratus did what other authorities ascribe to Solon and Hipparchus, viz.
^ Again, the account of the Hipparchus is contradicted by Diogenes Laertius, who says that Solon provided for the due recitation of the Homeric poems.
.^ It was necessary, of course, to divide the poem to be recited into parts, and to compel each contending rhapsodist to take the part assigned to him.
^ He wanted no part of Beckett, given the seemingly high risk of him taking a fastball off his hands, his rib cage, his head.- 1530HOMER.COM - The Official Home of the Bengals 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.1530homer.com [Source type: General]
^ Possibly the division of this poem into two books is a division belonging solely to this `developed poem', which may have included in its second part a summary of the Tale of Troy.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ Otherwise they would have chosen favourite or show passages.
.^ The practice of poets or rhapsodists contending for the prize at the great religious festivals is of considerable antiquity, though apparently post-Homeric.
^ The result of the notices now collected is to show that the early history of epic recitation consists of (r) passages in the Homeric hymns showing that poets contended for the prize at the great festivals, (2) the passing mention in Herodotus of rhapsodists at Sicyon, and (3) a law at Athens, of unknown date, regulating the recitation at the Panathenaea.
^ The result of these considerations seems to be that nothing rests on good evidence beyond the fact that Homer was recited by law at the Panathenaic festival.
.^ It is brought vividly before us in the Hymn to Apollo (see the passage mentioned above), and in two Hymns to Aphrodite (v.
^ The latter of these may evidently be taken to belong to Salamis in Cyprus and the festival of the Cyprian Aphrodite, in the same way that the Hymn to Apollo belongs to Delos and the Delian gathering.
^ The "Hymn to Apollo" consists of two parts, which beyond any doubt were originally distinct, a Delian hymn and a Pythian hymn.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
and ix.).
.^ The latter of these may evidently be taken to belong to Salamis in Cyprus and the festival of the Cyprian Aphrodite, in the same way that the Hymn to Apollo belongs to Delos and the Delian gathering.
^ We may explain the Gods of the minor hymns in the same way.
^ So, too, the legend of Anchises in the Hymn to Aphrodite is evidently local; and Aeneas becomes more prominent in the later epics, especially the Cypria and the 'IAiou - of Arctinus.
.^ The earliest trace of such contests is to be found in the story of Thamyris, the Thracian singer, who boasted that he could conquer even the Muses in song ( Il.
^ To the north we find the Thracians, known from the stories of Thamyris the singer ( Il.
^ It is Achilles himself who sings the stories of heroes (rcXEa av3p63 v7 in his tent , and Patroclus is waiting ( respondere paratus ), to take up the song in his turn ( Il.
594 ff.)
.^ Much has been made in this part of the subject of a family or clan ('ybos) of Homeridae in the island of Chios.
.^ What then is the way into the Homeric Poems?
^ On the one hand, it seemed to follow from the existence of such a family that Homer was a mere " eponymus," or mythical ancestor; on the other hand, it became easy to imagine the Homeric poems handed down orally in a family whose hereditary occupation it was to recite them, possibly to add new episodes from time to time, or to combine their materials in new ways, as their poetical gifts permitted.
^ The Margites - a humorous poem which kept its ground as the reputed work of Homer down to the time of Aristotle - began with the words, " There came to Colophon an old man, a divine singer, servant of the Muses and Apollo."
.^ As there is no law in Homer, so there is no morality.
^ But, although there is no reason to doubt the existence of a family of " Homeridae," it is far from certain that they had anything to do with Homeric poetry.
^ Is there anything they can't do?- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 1 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The word occurs first in Pindar ( Nem.
^ Op p15at pa1rrcm, EirEwz' aot501).
^ On this a scholiast says that the name "Homeridae " denoted originally descendants of Homer, who sang his poems in succession, but afterwards was applied to rhapsodists who did not claim descent from him.
.^ He adds that there was a famous rhapsodist, Cynaethus of Chios, who was said to be the author of the Hymn to Apollo, and to have first recited Homer at Syracuse about the 69th Olympiad .
^ Homer : Who told you about them?- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 6 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
^ If it proves anything, it proves that Cynaethus, who was a Chian and a rhapsodist, made no claim to Homeric descent.
.^ Nothing here connects the Homeridae with Chios.
.^ The statement of the scholiast is evidently a mere inference from the patronymic form of the word.
.^ F08] ***Homer: Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
^ F03] Homer: Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true!- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
^ On May 30, 2003, Homer was made an honorary citizen of Winnipeg, Canada , in recognition of Matt Groening 's father Homer Groening, who is believed to be from the Manitoba capital.- Homer Jay Simpson - Simpsons Wiki 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC simpsons.wikia.com [Source type: General]
.^ On the other hand our knowledge of Chian Homeridae comes chiefly from the lexicon of Harpocration, where we are told that Acusilaus and Hellanicus said that they were so called from the poet; whereas Seleucus pronounced this to be an error.
^ Also, I agree with others who said they'd like to know what the burglar looked like.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
^ And they bade Iris call her aside from white-armed Hera, lest she might afterwards turn her from coming with her words.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Strabo also says that the Chians put forward the Homeridae as an argument in support of their claim to Homer.
^ If it proves anything, it proves that Cynaethus, who was a Chian and a rhapsodist, made no claim to Homeric descent.
^ Not that the " Wolfian theory " of the Homeric poems is directly supported by anything in the Scholia; the immediate object of the Prolegomena was not to put forward that theory, but to elucidate the new and remarkable conditions under which the text of Homer had to be settled, viz.
.^ These Homeridae, then, belonged to Chios, but there is no indication of their being rhapsodists.
^ But, although there is no reason to doubt the existence of a family of " Homeridae," it is far from certain that they had anything to do with Homeric poetry.
^ He adds that there was a famous rhapsodist, Cynaethus of Chios, who was said to be the author of the Hymn to Apollo, and to have first recited Homer at Syracuse about the 69th Olympiad .
.^ On the contrary, Plato and other Attic writers use the word to include interpreters and admirers - in short, the whole " spiritual kindred " - of Homer.
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
^ The Homeric uses of tip and are different in several respects from the Attic, the general result being that the Homeric syntax is more elastic.
.^ As there is no law in Homer, so there is no morality.
^ And although we hear of " descendants of Creophylus " as in possession of the Homeric poems, there is no similar story about descendants of Homer himself.
^ There is no evidence that Wolf ever visited England, but it would take no stretch of the imagination to assume that a young schoolmaster with philological Trauemerei on his mind, would hear of a new book with novel views on Homer published in England and get himself a copy.
.^ Such is the evidence on which so many inferences are based.
.^ The practice of poets or rhapsodists contending for the prize at the great religious festivals is of considerable antiquity, though apparently post-Homeric.
^ The date of the formation of the collection as such is unknown.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
^ The result of the notices now collected is to show that the early history of epic recitation consists of (r) passages in the Homeric hymns showing that poets contended for the prize at the great festivals, (2) the passing mention in Herodotus of rhapsodists at Sicyon, and (3) a law at Athens, of unknown date, regulating the recitation at the Panathenaea.
.^ Homer: I can understand how they wouldn't let in those wild jungle apes, but what about those really smart ones who live among us?- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
^ When Aeneas looks at these images, he foreshadows his admiration, later in the poem, of his own shield: he is so much more conscious the connoisseur than Homer’s Achilles.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ Similarly, without Ovid, Dante would not be the poet-hero of his own poem, and without Virgil and ultimately Homer, Ovid would not be the self-conscious epic poet so familiar to us.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
The word "
rhapsode " does not yet exist; we hear only of the singer "
(aoc56s), who does not carry a wand or
laurel-branch, but the
lyre (
40pyry), with which he accompanies
his "song." In the
Iliad even the epic " singer " is not
met with.
.^ It is Achilles himself who sings the stories of heroes (rcXEa av3p63 v7 in his tent , and Patroclus is waiting ( respondere paratus ), to take up the song in his turn ( Il.
^ Also they can imitate the tongues of all men and their clattering speech: each would say that he himself were singing, so close to truth is their sweet song.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
^ The scene of the poem is a real place, and the poet sings (as Ulysses says of Demodocus) as though he had been present himself, or had heard from one who had been.
191).
.^ Again we do not hear of poetical contests (except in the story of Thamyris already mentioned) or of recitation of epic poetry at festivals.
^ We can only suppose that the lyre in the hands of the epic poet or reciter was in reality a piece of convention, a " survival " from the stage in which narrative poetry had a lyrical character.
^ The recitation of epic poetry was called in historical times " rhapsody " ( pai/icpbia).
.^ The Odyssey gives us pictures of two great houses, and each has its singer.
^ Right blessed is he among men on earth whom they freely love: soon they do send Plutus as guest to his great house, Plutus who gives wealth to mortal men.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
^ The ninth and tenth seem like two independent pictures of the night before the great battle of xi.-xvii.
.^ The song is on a subject taken from the Trojan war, at some point chosen by the singer himself, or by his hearers.
^ W. Grimm has pointed out that the behaviour of Ulysses in that story is senseless and foolhardy, utterly beneath the wise and much-enduring Ulysses of the Trojan war.
^ The reason is simple; he is not the Ulysses of the Trojan war, but a being of the same world as Polyphemus himself - the world of giants and ogres.
.^ Phemius pleases the suitors by singing of the calamitous return of the Greeks; Demodocus sings of a quarrel between Ulysses and Achilles, and afterwards of the wooden horse and the capture of Troy.
^ The scene of the poem is a real place, and the poet sings (as Ulysses says of Demodocus) as though he had been present himself, or had heard from one who had been.
^ Then follow the incidents connected with the gathering of the Achaeans and their ultimate landing in Troy; and the story of the war is detailed up to the quarrel between Achilles and Agamemnon with which the "Iliad" begins.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ It may be granted that the author of the Odyssey can hardly have been just such a singer as he himself describes.
^ The singer, too, who is so prominent a figure in the Odyssey can hardly be thought to be absent from the Iliad merely because the scene is laid in a camp.
.^ The songs of Phemius and Demodocus are too short, and have too much the character of improvisations.
.^ Nor is it necessary to suppose that epic poetry, at the time to which the picture in the Odyssey belongs, was confined to the one type represented.
^ We can only suppose that the lyre in the hands of the epic poet or reciter was in reality a piece of convention, a " survival " from the stage in which narrative poetry had a lyrical character.
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
.^ Yet in several respects the conditions under which the singer finds himself in the house of a chieftain like Odysseus or Alcinous are more in harmony with the character of Homeric poetry than those of the later rhapsodic contests.
^ A pity more is not written about Princess Ktimene -- Odysseus' sister -- unfortunately Homer refers to her but once and has her given away to a Samian prince.
^ It seems, then, that if we imagine Homer as a singer in a royal house of the Homeric age, but with more freedom regarding the limits of his subject, and a more tranquil audience than is allowed him in the rapid movement of the Odyssey, we shall probably not be far from the truth.
.^ The subdivision of a poem like the Iliad or Odyssey among different and necessarily unequal performers must have been injurious to the effect.
^ Homer lived in the ninth century BCE, according to the Greek historian Herodotus, and is credited with the composition of two epic poems the Iliad and the Odyssey.
^ All these reasons justify the view that the poems with which we now have to deal were later than the "Iliad" and "Odyssey", and if we must recognize the possibility of some conventionality in the received dating, we may feel confident that it is at least approximately just.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ The highly theatrical manner of recitation which was fostered by the spirit of competition, and by the example of the stage, cannot have done justice to the even movement of the epic style .
.^ It is not certain indeed that the practice of reciting a long poem by the agency of several competitors was ancient, or that it prevailed elsewhere than at Athens; but as rhapsodists were numerous, and popular favour throughout Greece became more and more confined to one or two great works, it must have become almost a necessity.
^ Each one is more disturbing than the last.
^ That day you shall no more prevail on me than this dry wood shall flourish—driven though you are and though a thousand men perish before the killer, Hektor.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ That it was the mode of recitation contemplated by the author of the Iliad or Odyssey it is impossible to believe.
^ Recitation of the Poems 2 Time and Place of Homer 3 Structure of the Iliad 4 Structure of the Odyssey 5 Chorizontes 6 Style of Homer 7 Analogies 8 Bibliography .
.^ The difference made by substituting the wand or branch of laurel for the lyre of the Homeric singer is a slighter one, though not without significance.
^ The word pa,bcpS6s is post-Homeric, but was known to Pindar , who gives two different explanations of it - " singer of stitched verse " ( pair - r6 EirEwv aocb01 ), and " singer with the wand " ( pa(3b6s).
^ One does not have to be an established critic to see that between Homer and Vergil there are vast differences, and it is the differences which Vergil was quietly exploring.
.^ The recitation of the Hesiodic poems was from the first unaccompanied by the lyre, i.e.
^ It was equally natural that the importance of his work as regards the text of Homer should be exaggerated.
^ In addition to the Homeric Hymns the volume also contains Hesiod's Theogony, Works and Days, Shield of Heracles, Hesiodic fragments, and fragments of the Epic Cycle poems.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ For it is difficult to believe that the Homeric poems were ever " sung " in the strict sense of the word.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
.^ We can only suppose that the lyre in the hands of the epic poet or reciter was in reality a piece of convention, a " survival " from the stage in which narrative poetry had a lyrical character.
^ They are epic in character, and were recited by professional jongleurs (who may be compared to the aouSoi of Homer).
^ This, then, is the plausible explanation of most of the brief Hymns—they were preludes to epic recitations—but the question as to the long narrative Hymns with which the collection opens is different.
.^ Probably the poets of the Homeric school - that which dealt with war and adventure - were the genuine descendants of minstrels whose " lays " or " ballads " were the amusement of the feasts in an earlier heroic age; whereas the Hesiodic compositions were non-lyrical from the first, and were only in verse because that was the universal form of literature.
^ In fact, Herodotus , the fifth century historian, says that Homer and Hesiod , an epic poet contemporary with Homer, first named the gods, determined their honors and functions and devised their physical appearance (2.53).- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ War was still a major social function everywhere but it was politically based and executed by armies of nameless conscripts or mercenaries, with none of the intensity of Homer's fighting heroes.
.^ The Odyssey is more than a grand adventure.
^ It seems, then, that if we imagine Homer as a singer in a royal house of the Homeric age, but with more freedom regarding the limits of his subject, and a more tranquil audience than is allowed him in the rapid movement of the Odyssey, we shall probably not be far from the truth.
^ We seem through him to obtain a glimpse of an early post-Homeric age in Ionia, when the immediate disciples and successors of Homer were distinct figures in a trustworthy tradition - when they had not yet merged their individuality in the legendary " Homer " of the Epic Cycle .
Time and Place of Homer
.^ The oldest direct references to the Iliad and Odyssey are in Herodotus, who quotes from both poems (ii.
^ Homer lived in the ninth century BCE, according to the Greek historian Herodotus, and is credited with the composition of two epic poems the Iliad and the Odyssey.
^ An analysis of the structure and vocabulary of the Iliad and Odyssey shows that the poems consist of regular, repeating phrases; even entire verses repeat.
53). The
quotation from
the
Iliad is of interest because it is made in order to
show that Homer supported the story of the travels of
Paris to
Egypt and
Sidon (whereas the Cyclic poem called the
Cypria ignored them), and also because the part of the
Iliad from which it comes is cited as the " Aristeia of
Diomede." This was therefore a recognized part of the poem.
.^ The earliest mention of the name of Homer is found in a fragment of the philosopher Xenophanes (of the 6th century B.e., or possibly earlier), who complains of the false notions implanted through the teaching of Homer.
^ If Giotto’s Socratic persona in Boccaccio is well understood, it’s all the more essential to reiterate that the deep roots of this bemocked image of the artist are to be found earlier, in Homer.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ We might also mention here Paris who, Homer tells us, built his own palace with the help of others, master builders as the poet calls them.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ The passage shows, not merely that Homer was well known at Colophon in the time of Xenophanes, but also that the great advance in moral and religious ideas which forced Plato to banish Homer from his republic had made itself felt in the days of the early Ionic philosophers.
^ Moral feeling, indeed, existed and was denoted by " Aidos "; but the numerous meanings of this word - shame, veneration, pity - show how rudimentary the idea was.
^ The author makes (perhaps wilfully) all the mistakes about the family of Peisistratus which Thucydides notices in a well-known passage (vi.
.^ Homer : All the time.- The Simpsons Quotes : Homer Simpson | planetclaire.org 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.planetclaire.org [Source type: Original source]
^ Failing external testimony, the time and place of the Homeric poems can only be determined (if at all) by internal evidence.
^ The overall effect of Homer’s appreciation of Agamemnon’s arms is splendid in the totality of its details, even as we are impressed by their place in the context of the poem.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ This is of two main kinds: (a) evidence of history, consisting in a comparison of the political and social condition, the geography , the institutions, the manners, arts and ideas of Homer with those of other times; ( b ) evidence of language, consisting in a comparison with later dialects, in respect of grammar and vocabulary.
^ Thus we find in Homer, but not in the later language (a) The second aorist middle without the " thematic " E or as g - was struck; Ec/Oc-ro, perished; aA-To, leaped.
^ No fragments which can be identified as belonging to the first period survive to give us even a general idea of the history of the earliest epic, and we are therefore thrown back upon the evidence of analogy from other forms of literature and of inference from the two great epics which have come down to us.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ To these may be added, as occasionally of value, ( c ) much evidence of the direct influence of Homer upon the subsequent course of literature and art.
^ As the dialect of the Arno in Italy , of Castille in Spain , by the virtue of the genius of the singers who used them, became literary " Italian " and " Spanish," so this variety of Achaean elevated itself to the position of the volgare illustre of Greece)] (T. W. A.) ( c ) The influence of Homer upon the subsequent course of Greek literature is a large subject, even if we restrict it to the centuries which immediately followed the Homeric age.
^ Scholars of ancient art history and of classical literature know full well that when Homer sings of Achilles’ shield and other works of art he is responding poetically to the facts of art history, no matter how much these facts are transformed.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ The political condition of Greece in the earliest times known to history is separated from the Greece of Homer by an interval which can hardly be overestimated.
^ While the political centre of Homeric Greece is at Mycenae, the real centre is rather to be found in Boeotia .
^ It has been supposed indeed that the art of riding was known in Homer's own time, because it occurs in comparisons.
The great national.
names are different: instead of
.^ Achaeans , Argives, Danai, we find Hellenes, subdivided into Dorians , Ionians, Aeolians - names either unknown to Homer, or mentioned in terms more significant than silence.
^ There are certainly far more students now reading Homer in English than there were in Greek throughout the l9th century, when Greek was mandatory for a college education.
^ Although Homer’s descriptions of architecture are more evocative than detailed, he nonetheless offers us some suggestive particulars.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ At the dawn of Greek history Mycenae is no longer the seat of empire; new empires, polities and civilizations have grown up - Sparta with its military discipline, Delphi with its religious supremacy, Miletus with its commerce and numberless colonies, Aeolis and Ionia, Sicily and Magna Graecia .
^ The eastern shores of the Aegean, which the earliest historical records represent to us as the seat of a brilliant civilization, giving way before the advance of the great military empires (Lydia and afterwards Persia ), are almost a blank in Homer's map .
^ These indications render it probable that the stories connecting Homer with different cities and islands grew up after his poems had become known and famous, especially in the new and flourishing colonies of Aeolis and Ionia .
.^ While the political centre of Homeric Greece is at Mycenae, the real centre is rather to be found in Boeotia .
^ The political condition of Greece in the earliest times known to history is separated from the Greece of Homer by an interval which can hardly be overestimated.
^ As Hephaistos the cripple may speak to a reality about lame smiths, so the blindness of Demodocus and Homer touches an ancient intuition about the powers of blind minstrels and blind prophets of ancient Greece.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ The Catalogue of the Ships begins with Boeotia; the list of Boeotian towns is much the longest; and they sail , not from the bay of Argos, but from the Boeotian harbour of Aulis .
.^ This position is not due to its chiefs, who are all of inferior rank.
.^ The importance of Boeotia for Greek civilization is further shown by the ancient worship of the Muses on Mount Helicon , and the fact that the oldest poet whose birthplace was known was the Boeotian Hesiod.
.^ Next to Boeotia and the neighbouring countries, it appears that the Peloponnesus, Crete and Thessaly were the most important seats of Greek population.
^ It is at least remarkable that a legend of the national interest of the " tale of Troy " should be so definitely localized, and that in a district which was never famous as a seat of Greek population.
^ Of the studies in the same field which have appeared since, the most important are: Aug.
.^ In the Peloponnesus the face of things was completely altered by the Dorian conquest, no trace of which is found in Homer.
^ The fact that there are so many traces of it in Homer is a strong proof of the antiquity of the poems, but no proof of admixture with Aeolic.
^ II. The Genealogical Poems: The only complete poem of the genealogical group is the "Theogony", which traces from the beginning of things the descent and vicissitudes of the families of the gods.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ The only Dorians known in Homer are those that the Odyssey (xix.
^ He noticed especially the difference between the stories known to Homer and those given by later poets, and made many comparisons between Homeric and later manners, arts and institutions.
^ For instance, the word 4 6/30s, which in Homer means " flight in battle " (not " fear "), occurs thirty-nine times in the Iliad, and only once in the Odyssey; but then there are no battles in the Odyssey.
177) places in Crete.
.^ It is difficult to connect them with the Dorians of history.
.^ The eastern shores of the Aegean, which the earliest historical records represent to us as the seat of a brilliant civilization, giving way before the advance of the great military empires (Lydia and afterwards Persia ), are almost a blank in Homer's map .
^ It is also a great work of artful military strategy and thus deserves a special place in the pantheon of Homeric masterpieces along with Hephaistos’ shield for Achilles.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer reopens the front door, before giving up.- [4F10] Mountain of Madness 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.snpp.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The line of settlements can be traced in the Catalogue from Crete to Rhodes , and embraces the neighbouring islands of Cos and Calymnos.
.^ The colonization of Rhodes by Tlepolemus is related ( Il.
661 ff.), and
seems to
mark the farthest point
reached in the Homeric age.
.^ Homer : Uh, you know, pretty ones, not dead.- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 6 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
^ She is now five years old and about 5-6 pounds, the big difference between her and Homer is that she is very much a one person cat but she loves to "stare" at people.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Even the Cyclades - Naxos, Paros , Melos - are unknown to the Homeric world.
.^ The disposition of the Greeks to look to the west for the centres of religious feeling appears in the mention of Dodona and the Dodonaean Zeus , put in the mouth of the Thessalian Achilles.
.^ To the north we find the Thracians, known from the stories of Thamyris the singer ( Il.
^ The Greeks, therefore, may have evolved the legend long before Homer’s day, and he may have known the story which he does not find occasion to tell.
^ The earliest trace of such contests is to be found in the story of Thamyris, the Thracian singer, who boasted that he could conquer even the Muses in song ( Il.
.^ Lycurgus, the enemy of the young god Dionysus ( Il.
130).
.^ Here the Trojan empire begins.
.^ It does not appear, however, that the Trojans are thought of as people of a different language.
^ It has been thought indeed that the Homeric dialect was a mixed one, mainly Ionic, but containing Aeolic and even Doric forms; this, however, is a mistaken view of the processes of language.
.^ As this is expressly said of the Carians, and of the Trojan allies who were " summoned from afar," the contrary rather is implied regarding Troy itself.
^ Between Rhodes and the Troad Homer knows of but one city, Miletus - which is a Carian ally of Troy - and the mouth of one river, the Cayster.
^ So said Phoebus, the long-haired god who shoots afar and began to walk upon the wide-pathed earth; and all goddesses were amazed at him.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The mixed type of government described by Homer - consisting of a king guided by a council of elders, and bringing all important resolutions before the assembly of the fighting men - does not seem to have been universal in Indo-European communities, but to have grown up in many different parts of the world under the stress of similar conditions.
^ Moreover, these marvels - which in their original form are doubtless as old as anything in the Iliad, since in fact they are part of the vast stock of popular tales ( Mdrehen ) diffused all over the world - are mixed up in the Odyssey with the heroes of the Trojan war.
^ Lastly, at least those kids are grown up enough to have a different opinion without resorting to completely immature name-calling.- Watching: 2101 Homer the Whopper | Watch The Simpsons Online - FREE! 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.wtso.net [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ The king is the commander in war, and the office probably owed its existence to military necessities.
.^ It is not surrounded with any special sacredness.
.^ There were ruling families, laying claim to divine descent, from whom the king was naturally chosen, but his own fitness is the essence of his title.
^ God, for each family with this claim a myth of a separate divine amour was needed.
.^ The aged Laertes is set aside; the young Telemachus does not succeed as a matter of course.
.^ Nor are any very definite rights attached to the office.
.^ Each tribe in the army before Troy was commanded by its own king (or kings); but Agamemnon was supreme, and was "more a king" (0avnXELmpos) than any other.
^ That day you shall no more prevail on me than this dry wood shall flourish—driven though you are and though a thousand men perish before the killer, Hektor.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ His command isn't good, and he's more thrower than pitcher, with a very loose arm that makes the velocity come out easily.- 1530HOMER.COM - The Official Home of the Bengals 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.1530homer.com [Source type: General]
.^ The assembly is summoned on all critical occasions, and its approval is the ultimate sanction.
.^ A king therefore stands in almost as much need of oratory as of warlike skill and prowess.
.^ Even the division of the spoil is not made in the Iliad by Agamemnon, but by " the Achaeans " ( Il.
^ No, not even King Agamemnon himself, foremost of Achaeans, commander of kings."
162, 368).
.^ The taking of BriseIs from Achilles was an arbitrary act, and against all rule and custom.
.^ The council is more difficult to understand.
.^ The "elders" ( *ovrES ) of the Iliad are the same as the subordinate " kings "; they are summoned by Agamemnon to his tent, and form a small council of nine or ten persons.
^ It would seem therefore that the meeting in Agamemnon's tent was only a copy or adaptation of the true constitutional " council of elders," which indeed was essentially unfitted for the purposes of military service.
.^ In Troy we hear of elders of the people ( 577 1 .to-ypovms ) who are with Priam , and are men past the military age.
^ So in Ithaca there are elders who have not gone to Troy with the army.
.^ So in Ithaca there are elders who have not gone to Troy with the army.
^ In Troy we hear of elders of the people ( 577 1 .to-ypovms ) who are with Priam , and are men past the military age.
.^ It would seem therefore that the meeting in Agamemnon's tent was only a copy or adaptation of the true constitutional " council of elders," which indeed was essentially unfitted for the purposes of military service.
^ The "elders" ( *ovrES ) of the Iliad are the same as the subordinate " kings "; they are summoned by Agamemnon to his tent, and form a small council of nine or ten persons.
The
king's palace, if we may
judge
from
Tiryns and Mycenae, was
usually in a strong situation on an "
acropolis." In the later times of
democracy the acropolis was
reserved for the temples of the principal gods.
.^ Priesthood in Homer is found in the case of particular temples, where an officer is naturally wanted to take charge of the sacred inclosure and the sacrifices offered within it.
^ This has been especially noticed in the case of the story of Polyphemus , one that is found in many countries, and in versions which cannot all be derived from Homer.
^ Although Homer’s descriptions of architecture are more evocative than detailed, he nonetheless offers us some suggestive particulars.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ It is perhaps an accident that we do not hear of priests in Ithaca.
.^ Agamemnon performs sacrifice himself, not because a priestly character was attached to the kingly office, but simply because he was " master in his own house."
.^ The conception of " law " is foreign to Homer.
.^ The later words for it ( voµos, pi p -pa ) are unknown, and the terms which he uses (311cn and 6Eµts ) mean merely " custom."
.^ On such matters as the compensation in cases of homicide , it is evident that there were no rules, but merely a feeling, created by use and wont, that the relatives of the slain man should be willing to accept payment.
^ Further proof there is no such thing as a destination job.- 1530HOMER.COM - The Official Home of the Bengals 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.1530homer.com [Source type: General]
^ F12] Homer: No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
.^ The sense of anger which follows a violation of custom has the name of " Nemesis " - righteous displeasure.
.^ As there is no law in Homer, so there is no morality.
^ F12] Homer: No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
^ But, although there is no reason to doubt the existence of a family of " Homeridae," it is far from certain that they had anything to do with Homeric poetry.
.^ There are only general indications of date.- OMACL: Hesiod, the Homeric Hymns and Homerica:Introduction 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC omacl.org [Source type: Original source]
^ That is to say, there are no general principles of action, and no words which indicate that acts have been classified as good or bad, right or wrong.
^ The words σατινη, πρεσβειρα, and other indications are relied on for a late date: and there are obvious coincidences with the Hymn to Demeter, as in line 174, Demeter 109, f.
.^ Moral feeling, indeed, existed and was denoted by " Aidos "; but the numerous meanings of this word - shame, veneration, pity - show how rudimentary the idea was.
^ Many other points are noted—such as the derivation of “Pytho” from a word meaning rot ,—to show that the hymnist was rather disparaging than celebrating the Delphian sanctuary.
.^ And when we look to practice we find that cruel and even treacherous deeds are spoken of without the least sense that they deserve censure.
^ Once they did, I went down to the precinct to look through the Big Book of Mug Shots and see if I could find a match, but--nada.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The heroes of Homer are hardly more moral agents than the giants and enchanters of a fairy tale.
^ [Homer reviews a Mel Gibson movie 'Mr.Smith goes to Washington'] Your movie was more boring than the church.- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 6 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer : But we are not MASS-MARRIED! This beans is more delicious than the ones we had for breakfast and lunch.- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 6 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The religious ideas of Homer differ in some important points from those of later Greece.
^ In examining such points we are apt to forget that the contradictions by which a story is shown to be untrue are quite different from those by which a confessedly untrue story would be shown to be the work of different authors.
^ This is of two main kinds: (a) evidence of history, consisting in a comparison of the political and social condition, the geography , the institutions, the manners, arts and ideas of Homer with those of other times; ( b ) evidence of language, consisting in a comparison with later dialects, in respect of grammar and vocabulary.
.^ The Apollo of the Iliad has the character of a local Asiatic deity - " ruler of Chryse and goodly Cilla and Tenedos."
.^ He may be compared with the Clarian and the Lycian god, but he is unlike the Apollo of Dorian times, the " deliverer " and giver of oracles.
^ It may be that down to comparatively late times poetry was not commonly read, but was recited from memory.
^ As a go-between of Gods and men, Hermes may be a doublure of Apollo, but, as the Hymn shows, he aspired in vain to Apollo’s oracular function.
.^ Again, the worship of Dionysus, and of Demeter and Persephone, is mainly or wholly post-Homeric.
.^ The greatest difference, however, lies in the absence of hero-worship from the Homeric order of things.
^ In fact, however, the Homeric subjunctive is almost quite " regular," though the rule which it obeys is a different one from the Attic.
.^ Castor and Polydeuces, for instance, are simply brothers of Helen who died before the expedition to Troy ( Il.
^ The story of Paris and Helen especially, and the general position of affairs in Troy, is put before us in a singularly vivid manner.
^ Sing, clear-voiced Muse, of Castor and Polydeuces, the Tyndaridae, who sprang from Olympian Zeus.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 5 - 33 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The military tactics of Homer belong to the age when the chariot was the principal engine of warfare.
.^ Cavalry is unknown, and the battles are mainly decided by the prowess of the chiefs.
.^ The use of the trumpet is also later.
.^ It has been supposed indeed that the art of riding was known in Homer's own time, because it occurs in comparisons.
^ The question whether writing was known in the time of Homer was raised in antiquity, and has been debated with especial eagerness ever since the appearance of Wolf's Prolegomena.
^ The political condition of Greece in the earliest times known to history is separated from the Greece of Homer by an interval which can hardly be overestimated.
.^ But the riding which he describes ( Il.
679) is a mere exhibition of skill,
such as we may see in a modern
circus. And though he mentions the trumpet
(
Il. xviii.
.^ In this account there is nothing to show exactly how the message of Proetus was expressed.
^ The passage is unfortunately corrupt, but it is at least clear that in the time of Solon, according to Diogenes, there were complete copies of the poems, such as could be used to control the recitations.
.^ The chief industries of Homeric times are those of the carpenter (TEKro v),, the worker in leather ( oKVTaroµos ), the smith or worker in metal (XaXKeus) - whose implements are the hammer and pincers - and the potter ( Kepa,ueis); also spinning and weaving , which were carried on by the women.
^ Homer as a cowboy, done by one of those instant old-time photo places.- [4F10] Mountain of Madness 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.snpp.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The fine arts are represented by sculpture in relief, carving in wood and ivory , embroidery .
.^ Statuary is later; it appears to have come into existence in the 7th century, about the time when casting in metal was invented by Rhoecus of Samos .
^ But as early as the 7th century we come upon traces of short lays (the so-called cantilenes) which were in the mouths of all and were sung in chorus .
.^ In general, as was well shown by A. S. Murray,' Homeric art does not rise above the stage of decoration, applied to objects in common use; while in point of style it is characterized by a richness and variety of ornament which is in the strongest contrast to the simplicity of the best periods.
^ For students of art in general, Homer’s account of the shield is also the foundational text in the history of rhetorical or poetical descriptions of works of art.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
.^ It is the work, in short, not of artists but of skilled workmen; the ideal artist is " Daeda-us," a name which implies mechanical skill and intricate workmanship, not beauty of design.
^ In Ovid’s fable the artist creates his own ideal beauty, embodied in his statue, which he similarly desires and comes to possess.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ Although he fashions works of great beauty and skill, he is at the same time deformed and ridiculous.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ One art of the highest importance remains.
.^ The question whether writing was known in the time of Homer was raised in antiquity, and has been debated with especial eagerness ever since the appearance of Wolf's Prolegomena.
^ Regarding the use of writing, too, they were not unanimous.
^ In this case we have to consider not merely the indications of the poems, but also the external evidence which we possess regarding the use of writing in Greece.
.^ This latter kind of evidence is much more considerable now than it was in Wolf's time.
^ When Aeneas looks at these images, he foreshadows his admiration, later in the poem, of his own shield: he is so much more conscious the connoisseur than Homer’s Achilles.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ As to the myths in the Hymns, I would naturally study them from the standpoint of anthropology, and in the light of comparison of the legends of much more backward peoples than the Greeks.
.^ (See Writing elsewhere in these volumes.
)
.^ The oldest known stage of the Greek alphabet appears to be represented by inscriptions of the islands of Thera , Melos and Crete, which are referred to the 40th Olympiad (620 B.C.).
^ Next to Boeotia and the neighbouring countries, it appears that the Peloponnesus, Crete and Thessaly were the most important seats of Greek population.
.^ Considering that the divergence of two alphabets (like the difference of two dialects) requires both time and familiar use, we may gather from these facts that writing was well known in Greece early in the 7th century B.e.2 The rise of prose composition in the 6th century B.C. has been thought to mark the time when memory was practically superseded by writing as a means of preserving literature - the earlier use of letters being confined to short documents, such as lists of names, treaties , laws, &c.
^ The oldest specimen of a distinctively Ionian alphabet is the famous inscription of the mercenaries of Psammetichus , in Upper Egypt, as to which the only doubt is whether the Psammetichus in question is the first or the second, and consequently whether the inscription is to be dated 01.40 or 01.47.
^ The preservation of this vast mass can only be attributed to writing, which must therefore have been in use for two centuries or more before there was any considerable prose literature.
.^ This conclusion, however, is by no means necessary.
.^ It may be that down to comparatively late times poetry was not commonly read, but was recited from memory.
^ He may be compared with the Clarian and the Lycian god, but he is unlike the Apollo of Dorian times, the " deliverer " and giver of oracles.
^ They are epic in character, and were recited by professional jongleurs (who may be compared to the aouSoi of Homer).
.^ But the question is - From what time are we to suppose that the preservation of long poems was generally secured by the existence of written copies?
.^ Now, without counting the Homeric poems - which doubtless had exceptional advantages in their fame and popularity - we find a body of literature dating from the 8th century B.C. to which the theory of oral transmission is surely inapplicable.
^ Thus we find in Homer, but not in the later language (a) The second aorist middle without the " thematic " E or as g - was struck; Ec/Oc-ro, perished; aA-To, leaped.
^ Similarly, without Ovid, Dante would not be the poet-hero of his own poem, and without Virgil and ultimately Homer, Ovid would not be the self-conscious epic poet so familiar to us.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
^ Again, there are the numerous works attributed to Hesiod and other 1 Contemporary Review, vol.
^ In the Trojan cycle alone we know of the two epics of Arctinus, the Little Iliad of Lesches , the Cypria, the Nostoi.
xxiii. p. 218 ff.
.^ The fact that the Phoenician Vau was retained in the Greek alphabets, and the vowel v added, shows that when the alphabet was introduced the sound denoted by was still in full vigour.
^ Otherwise would have been used for the vowel v, just as the Phoenician consonant Yod became the vowel L. But in the Ionic dialect the sound of died out soon after Homer's time, if indeed it was still pronounced then.
^ Book VII: Greek - Butcher-Lang - Murray - Fagles [Full detail] Still day thirtytwo 7.- Homeric correspondences in Ulysses (overview) 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.robotwisdom.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Otherwise would have been used for the vowel v, just as the Phoenician consonant Yod became the vowel L. But in the Ionic dialect the sound of died out soon after Homer's time, if indeed it was still pronounced then.
^ Homeric Dialect read to the Congress of Historical Sciences at Rome , 1903: Atti del Congresso internazionale di scienze storiche, ii.
^ The view that Homer underwent at any time a passage from one dialect to another may be dismissed.
.^ It seems probable therefore that the introduction of the alphabet is not later than the composition of the Homeric poems.
^ It seems, then, that if we imagine Homer as a singer in a royal house of the Homeric age, but with more freedom regarding the limits of his subject, and a more tranquil audience than is allowed him in the rapid movement of the Odyssey, we shall probably not be far from the truth.
^ When Aeneas looks at these images, he foreshadows his admiration, later in the poem, of his own shield: he is so much more conscious the connoisseur than Homer’s Achilles.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
poets of the didactic, mythological and quasi-historical
schoolsEumelus of
.^ Eumelus of Corinth , Cinaethon of Sparta, Agias of Troezen, and many more.
.^ The preservation of this vast mass can only be attributed to writing, which must therefore have been in use for two centuries or more before there was any considerable prose literature.
^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
^ Also, the lack of definition there adds something, ties me in to Homer's experience more, not being able to see but only sense the presence.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
Nor is this in
itself improbable.
.^ The further question, whether the Iliad and Odyssey were originally written, is much more difficult.
^ To learn more about what happens following the events of the Iliad , see the The Aftermath: Post Iliad through the Odyssey .- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ The commentaries on the Iliad and the Odyssey written in the Hellenistic period (3rd century--1st century B.C.) began exploring the textual inconsistencies of the poems.
.^ External evidence does not reach back so far, and the internal evidence is curiously indecisive.
^ Failing external testimony, the time and place of the Homeric poems can only be determined (if at all) by internal evidence.
The only passage which can be
interpreted as a reference to writing occurs in the story of
Bellerophon, told by
Glaucus in the sixth book of
the
Iliad. Proetus, king of Corinth, sent Bellerophon to
his father-in-law the king of
Lycia, and gave him " baneful tokens " (o jiara
Xvy pet, i.e. tokens which were messages of death), "
scratching on a folded tablet many spiritdestroying things, and
bade him show this to his father-in-law, that he might perish." The
king of Lycia asked duly (on the tenth day from the guest's coming)
for a token (nree oiLua
15&rOat), and then knew what
Proetus wished to be done.
.^ In this account there is nothing to show exactly how the message of Proetus was expressed.
^ There is no difficulty, therefore, in understanding the message of Proetus without alphabetical writing.
.^ The use of writing for the purpose of the token between " guest-friends " ( tessera hospitalis ) is certainly very ancient.
Mommsen (
Rom. Forsch. i. 338 ff.)
aptly compares the use in treaties, which are the oldest species of
public documents.
.^ But we may suppose that tokens of some kind - like the marks which the Greek chiefs make on the lots ( Il.
1 75 ff.) - were in use before writing was
known.
.^ In any system of signs there were doubtless means of recommending a friend, or giving warning of the presence of an enemy.
.^ There is no difficulty, therefore, in understanding the message of Proetus without alphabetical writing.
^ It may have suited the Thebaid still better, but there is no need to understand it only of that poem, as Grote does.
^ But, on the other hand, there is no reason for so understanding it.
.^ But, on the other hand, there is no reason for so understanding it.
^ There is no other secret.
^ No process, on the other hand, of borrowing from Greece can conceivably account for the Pawnee and Peruvian rites, so closely analogous to those of Hellas.
.^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
^ Thus we find in Homer, but not in the later language (a) The second aorist middle without the " thematic " E or as g - was struck; Ec/Oc-ro, perished; aA-To, leaped.
^ A pity more is not written about Princess Ktimene -- Odysseus' sister -- unfortunately Homer refers to her but once and has her given away to a Samian prince.
.^ The blind singer (who is p.
^ Arguments have been founded upon the descriptions of the blind singers in the Odyssey, with their songs inspired directly by the Muse; upon the appeals of the poet to the Muses, especially in such a place as the opening of the Catalogue; upon the Catalogue itself, which is a kind of historical document put into verse to help the memory; upon the shipowner in the Odyssey, who has " a good memory for his cargo ," &c.
^ When any stranger comes and asks who is the sweetest singer, they are to answer with one voice, the " blind man that dwells in rocky Chios ; his songs deserve the prize for all time to come."
.^ It may be answered, however, that much of this is traditional, handed down from the time when all poetry was unwritten.
^ Then rich-haired Demeter answered her: "And to you, also, lady, all hail, and may the gods give you good!- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
.^ Moreover it is one thing to recognize that a literature is essentially oral in its form, characteristic of an age which was one of hearing rather than of reading , and quite another to hold that the same literature was preserved entirely by oral transmission.
^ If there's one thing I've learned, it's that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 1 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
^ One quality show after another, each one fresher and more brilliant than the last.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
.^ The result of these various considerations seems to be that the age which we may call the Homeric - the age which is brought before us in vivid outlines in the Iliad and Odyssey - lies beyond the earliest point to which history enables us to penetrate.
^ The eastern shores of the Aegean, which the earliest historical records represent to us as the seat of a brilliant civilization, giving way before the advance of the great military empires (Lydia and afterwards Persia ), are almost a blank in Homer's map .
^ It seems, then, that if we imagine Homer as a singer in a royal house of the Homeric age, but with more freedom regarding the limits of his subject, and a more tranquil audience than is allowed him in the rapid movement of the Odyssey, we shall probably not be far from the truth.
.^ And so far as we can draw any conclusion as to the author (or authors) of the two poems, it is that the whole debate between the cities of Aeolis and Ionia was wide of the mark.
^ The difference of subject between the two poems is so great that it leads to the most striking differences of detail, especially in the vocabulary.
^ These indications render it probable that the stories connecting Homer with different cities and islands grew up after his poems had become known and famous, especially in the new and flourishing colonies of Aeolis and Ionia .
.^ Homer : Well wonder no more!- The Simpsons Quotes : Homer Simpson | planetclaire.org 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.planetclaire.org [Source type: Original source]
^ That day you shall no more prevail on me than this dry wood shall flourish—driven though you are and though a thousand men perish before the killer, Hektor.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
^ If Homer competed with Greek smiths past and present, he also inspired the poets who followed to compete with him.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
This is perhaps the place to consider whether the poems are to
be regarded as possessing in any degree the character'of historical
record.
.^ The question is one which in the absence of satisfactory criteria will generally be decided by taste and predilection.
.^ A few suggestions, however, may be made.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
.^ The events of the Iliad take place in a real locality, the general features of which are kept steadily in view.
^ View our Homer real estate guide to see average listing prices, sale prices and information for local school districts.- Homer Real Estate & Homer Homes For Sale — Trulia.com 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.trulia.com [Source type: General]
.^ There is no doubt about Sigeum and Rhoeteum, or the river Scamander, or the islands Imbros , Lemnos and Tenedos.
^ F12] Homer: No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
^ And although we hear of " descendants of Creophylus " as in possession of the Homeric poems, there is no similar story about descendants of Homer himself.
.^ It is at least remarkable that a legend of the national interest of the " tale of Troy " should be so definitely localized, and that in a district which was never famous as a seat of Greek population.
^ Next to Boeotia and the neighbouring countries, it appears that the Peloponnesus, Crete and Thessaly were the most important seats of Greek population.
.^ It may be urged, too, that the story of the Iliad is singularly free from the exaggerated and marvellous character which belongs as a rule to the legends of primitive peoples.
^ But if you read carefully and are willing to reread, you will find that the main story of the Iliad is fairly simple and involves a relatively small number of major characters.- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ This sobriety, however, belongs not to the whole Iliad, but to the events and characters of the war.
.^ The apple of discord, the arrows of Philoctetes , the invulnerability of Achilles, and similar fancies, are the additions of later poets.
.^ This sobriety, however, belongs not to the whole Iliad, but to the events and characters of the war.
^ It may be urged, too, that the story of the Iliad is singularly free from the exaggerated and marvellous character which belongs as a rule to the legends of primitive peoples.
^ There is no strong antipathy of race or religion; the war turns on no political event; the capture of Troy lies outside the range of the Iliad.
Such
figures as Bellerophon,
Niobe,
the
Amazons, which are
thought of as traditions from an earlier generation, show the
marvellous element at work.
.^ Certain persons and events in the story have a distinctly mythical stamp .
.^ Helen is a figure of this kind.
.^ There was another story according to which she was carried off by Theseus , and recovered by her brothers the Dioscuri.
^ The Little Iliad and the Phocais, according to the Herodotean life, were composed by Homer when he lived at Phocaea with a certain Thestorides, who carried them off to Chios and there gained fame by reciting them as his own.
.^ There are even traces of a third version, in which the Messenian twins, Idas and Lynceus, appear.
.^ The analogy of the French epic, the Chanson de Roland , favours the belief that there was some nucleus of fact.
^ The most instructive, perhaps the only instructive, parallel is to be found in the French " chansons de geste ," of which the Chanson de Roland is the earliest and best example.
^ Like the French epics, Homeric poetry is indigenous, and is distinguished by this fact, and by the ease of movement and the simplicity which result from it, from poets such as Virgil, Dante and Milton.
.^ The defeat of Roncevaux was really suffered by a part of Charlemagne's army.
.^ But the Saracen army is purely mythical, the true enemy having been the Gascons.
.^ If similarly we leave, as historical, the plain of Troy, and the name Agamemnon, we shall perhaps not be far wrong.
.^ The dialect of Homer is an early or " primitive " form of the language which we know as that of Attica in the classical age of Greek literature .
^ The early Greeks, like other races, entertained these primitive, or very archaic ideas.
^ Scholars of ancient art history and of classical literature know full well that when Homer sings of Achilles’ shield and other works of art he is responding poetically to the facts of art history, no matter how much these facts are transformed.- Arion: A Journal of Humanities and the Classics 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.bu.edu [Source type: Original source]
.^ The proof of this proposition is to be obtained chiefly by comparing the grammatical formation and the syntax of Homer with those of Attic.
^ The Homeric uses of tip and are different in several respects from the Attic, the general result being that the Homeric syntax is more elastic.
^ The Homeric dialect must be studied in the books (such as those of G. Curtius) that deal with Greek on the comparative method.
.^ The comparison of the vocabulary is in the nature of things less conclusive on the question of date.
^ Chibiabos is assuredly not borrowed from Osiris, nor the Fijian faith from the “Book of the Dead.” “Sacred things,” not to be shown to man, still less to woman, date from the “medicine p.
.^ It would be impossible to give the evidence in full without writing a Homeric grammar, but a few specimens may be of interest.
^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
^ Of the earlier books Wood's Essay on the Original Genius and Writings of Homer is the most interesting.
i.
.^ The first aorist in Greek being a " weak " tense, i.e.
^ Thus we find in Homer, but not in the later language (a) The second aorist middle without the " thematic " E or as g - was struck; Ec/Oc-ro, perished; aA-To, leaped.
^ While the whole class of " strong " aorists diminished, certain smaller groups in the class disappeared altogether.
.^ No new second aorists, we may be sure, were formed any more than new " strong " tenses, such as came or sang, can be formed in English.
^ Now in Homer there are upwards of 80 second aorists (not reckoning aorists of " Verbs in µc," such as i'ar,Y, i,3rpv), whereas in all Attic prose not more than 30 are found.
^ The choice of Israel was unique: Greece retained far more of the lower ancient ideas, but gave to them a beauty of grace and form which is found among no other race.
.^ Now in Homer there are upwards of 80 second aorists (not reckoning aorists of " Verbs in µc," such as i'ar,Y, i,3rpv), whereas in all Attic prose not more than 30 are found.
^ In Attic poets, it is true, the number of such aorists is much larger than in prose.
^ A five-year study of more than 2,000 middle-aged people in France found a possible link between weight and brain function, dubbed the "Homer Simpson syndrome".- Homer Jay Simpson - Simpsons Wiki 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC simpsons.wikia.com [Source type: General]
.^ In this point therefore the Homeric language is manifestly older.
.^ In Attic poets, it is true, the number of such aorists is much larger than in prose.
^ Now in Homer there are upwards of 80 second aorists (not reckoning aorists of " Verbs in µc," such as i'ar,Y, i,3rpv), whereas in all Attic prose not more than 30 are found.
^ Finally, the second poet (and here every one must agree) is a much worse poet than the first.
.^ But here again we find that they bear witness to Homer.
^ Cats are fierce creatures, I am here to bear witness.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Of the poetical aorists in Attic the larger part are also Homeric.
^ In Attic poets, it is true, the number of such aorists is much larger than in prose.
.^ Others are not really Attic at all, but borrowed from earlier Aeolic and Doric poetry.
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
.^ It is plain, in short, that the later poetical vocabulary was separated from that of prose mainly by the forms which the influence of Homer had saved from being forgotten.
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
^ The result of Welcker's labours was to show that the Homeric poems had influenced both the form and the substance of epic poetry.
.^ While the whole class of " strong " aorists diminished, certain smaller groups in the class disappeared altogether.
.^ The aorist formed by reduplication: as &Sae, taught; AEAas oOac, to seize.
^ Thus we find in Homer, but not in the later language (a) The second aorist middle without the " thematic " E or as g - was struck; Ec/Oc-ro, perished; aA-To, leaped.
^ These constitute a distinct formation, generally with a " causative " meaning; the solitary Attic specimen is riyayov.
.^ It had long been known that the subjunctive in Homer often takes a short vowel (e.g.
^ It will be evident that under this rule the perfect and first aorist subjunctive should always take a short vowel; and this accordingly is the case, with very few exceptions.
^ The Greeks, therefore, may have evolved the legend long before Homer’s day, and he may have known the story which he does not find occasion to tell.
in the plural, instead of and in the Mid.
-olcat, &c. instead of
-wµac, &c.). .^ This was generally said to be done by " poetic licence ," or metri gratia.
^ In fact, however, the Homeric subjunctive is almost quite " regular," though the rule which it obeys is a different one from the Attic.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
.^ It may be summed up by saying that the subjunctive takes or when the indicative has o or and not otherwise.
.^ F13] Homer: [talking about his fatness] Marge, how could you let me let myself go like this.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
^ Thus Homer has 11 .c€v, we go, - - let us go.
^ Homer: I can understand how they wouldn't let in those wild jungle apes, but what about those really smart ones who live among us?- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
.^ It will be evident that under this rule the perfect and first aorist subjunctive should always take a short vowel; and this accordingly is the case, with very few exceptions.
^ It had long been known that the subjunctive in Homer often takes a short vowel (e.g.
^ On such matters as the compensation in cases of homicide , it is evident that there were no rules, but merely a feeling, created by use and wont, that the relatives of the slain man should be willing to accept payment.
.^ The proof of this proposition is to be obtained chiefly by comparing the grammatical formation and the syntax of Homer with those of Attic.
^ The Homeric uses of tip and are different in several respects from the Attic, the general result being that the Homeric syntax is more elastic.
^ On the contrary, Plato and other Attic writers use the word to include interpreters and admirers - in short, the whole " spiritual kindred " - of Homer.
b the one
... the other). .^ This difference is parallel to the relation between the Latin ille and the article of the Romance languages .
.^ The prepositions offer several points of comparison.
.^ What the grammarians called " tmesis," the separation of the preposition from the verb with which it is compounded, is peculiar to Homer.
.^ The true account of the matter is that in Homer the place of the preposition is not rigidly fixed, as it was afterwards.
.^ Again, " with " is in Homer auv (with the dative ), in Attic prose perec with the genitive.
.^ Here Attic poetry is intermediate; the use of auv is retained as a piece of poetical tradition.
.^ In addition to the particle Homer has another, hardly distinguishable in meaning.
.^ The Homeric uses of tip and are different in several respects from the Attic, the general result being that the Homeric syntax is more elastic.
^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
^ The proof of this proposition is to be obtained chiefly by comparing the grammatical formation and the syntax of Homer with those of Attic.
.^ And yet it is perfectly definite and precise.
.^ Homer uses no constructions loosely or without corresponding differences of meaning.
^ Homer no function beer well without.- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 1 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Akin to the simile is a figure of speech called a metaphor, a comparison between two different things without the use of "like" or "as".- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ His rules are equally strict with those of the later language, but they are not the same rules.
^ Greeks spoke the same language - that is to say, that they understood one another, in spite of the inevitable local differences.
^ They are rather to be classed with those which we find between the earlier and the later stages of every language which has had a long history.
.^ And they differ chiefly in this, that the less common combinations of the earlier period were disused altogether in the later.
.^ In the vocabulary the most striking difference is that many words appear from the metre to have contained a sound which they afterwards lost, viz.
^ This, then, is the plausible explanation of most of the brief Hymns—they were preludes to epic recitations—but the question as to the long narrative Hymns with which the collection opens is different.
^ And they bade Iris call her aside from white-armed Hera, lest she might afterwards turn her from coming with her words.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
that which
is written in some
.^ There is one sense, however, in which an admixture of dialects may be recognized.
^ Homer : No one believes me.- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 1 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
^ As there is no law in Homer, so there is no morality.
.^ These are not, speaking generally, the differences that are produced by the gradual divergence of dialects in a language.
^ At the same time there is hardly one of these differences which cannot be accounted for by the natural growth of the language.
.^ They are rather to be classed with those which we find between the earlier and the later stages of every language which has had a long history.
^ His rules are equally strict with those of the later language, but they are not the same rules.
^ Thus we find in Homer, but not in the later language (a) The second aorist middle without the " thematic " E or as g - was struck; Ec/Oc-ro, perished; aA-To, leaped.
.^ The Homeric dialect has passed into New Ionic and Attic by gradual but ceaseless development of the same kind as that which brought about the change from Vedic to classical Sanskrit , or from old high German to the present dialects of Germany .
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
^ Both these books were translated into German, and their ideas passed into the popular philosophy of the day.
.^ The points that have been mentioned, to which many others might be added, make it clear that the Homeric and Attic dialects are separated by differences which affect the whole structure of the language, and require a considerable time for their development.
^ Greek alphabets by the " digamma " F. Thus the words avaE, haTe, €pyov, Tiros, and many others must have been written at one time Fava, FEpyov, FE7ros.
^ But one point you mention is true: Homer`s german voice sucks, that is why I stopped watching the show on TV and logged me in to this great site.- Watching: 2101 Homer the Whopper | Watch The Simpsons Online - FREE! 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.wtso.net [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ At the same time there is hardly one of these differences which cannot be accounted for by the natural growth of the language.
^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
^ These are not, speaking generally, the differences that are produced by the gradual divergence of dialects in a language.
.^ It has been thought indeed that the Homeric dialect was a mixed one, mainly Ionic, but containing Aeolic and even Doric forms; this, however, is a mistaken view of the processes of language.
^ It will be enough to observe that in the earliest elegiac poets, such as Archilochus , Tyrtaeus and Theognis, reminiscences of Homeric language and thought meet us on every page.
^ There is one sense, however, in which an admixture of dialects may be recognized.
.^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
^ Now in Homer there are upwards of 80 second aorists (not reckoning aorists of " Verbs in µc," such as i'ar,Y, i,3rpv), whereas in all Attic prose not more than 30 are found.
^ If it was found necessary to transpose the Aeolic Homer, why did the Aeolic lyric verse escape?
.^ Homer complements him very well.- [4F10] Mountain of Madness 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.snpp.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Homer can be very violent at times.- Homer Jay Simpson - Simpsons Wiki 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC simpsons.wikia.com [Source type: General]
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
So too the digamma is called " Aeolic "
by grammarians, and is found on Aeolic and Doric inscriptions. But
the letter was one of the original alphabet, and was retained
universally as a
numeral.
.^ It can only have fallen into disuse by degrees, as the sound which it denoted ceased to be pronounced.
.^ As there is no law in Homer, so there is no morality.
^ The fact that there are so many traces of it in Homer is a strong proof of the antiquity of the poems, but no proof of admixture with Aeolic.
^ Further proof there is no such thing as a destination job.- 1530HOMER.COM - The Official Home of the Bengals 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.1530homer.com [Source type: General]
.^ There is one sense, however, in which an admixture of dialects may be recognized.
^ The view that Homer underwent at any time a passage from one dialect to another may be dismissed.
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
.^ It is clear that the variety of forms in Homer is too great for any actual spoken dialect.
^ The Epic of Homer was doubtless formed originally from a spoken variety of Greek, but became literary and conventional with time.
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
.^ To take a single instance: it is impossible that the genitives in -ow and in -ov should both have been in everyday use together.
.^ The form in -ow must have been poetical or literary, like the old English forms that survive in the language of the Bible .
^ To the English reader familiar with the Iliad and Odyssey the Hymns must appear disappointing, if he come to them with an expectation of discovering merits like those of the immortal epics.
The origin of such double forms is not far
to seek.
.^ The effect of dialect on style was always recognized in Greece, and the dialect which had once been adopted by a particular kind of poetry was ever afterwards adhered to.
^ But while we are on our guard against a once common error, we may recognize the historical connexion between the Iliad and Odyssey and the " ballad " literature which undoubtedly preceded them in Greece.
^ I'm more of a season 7 kind of girl but I am trying to appreciate the writing style they have adopted after realizing the direction change they have to make after season 18 or 19.- Watching: 2101 Homer the Whopper | Watch The Simpsons Online - FREE! 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.wtso.net [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ It is clear that the variety of forms in Homer is too great for any actual spoken dialect.
^ The Epic of Homer was doubtless formed originally from a spoken variety of Greek, but became literary and conventional with time.
^ To what local variety of Achaean Homeric Greek belonged it is idle to ask.
.^ It is Homer himself who tells us, in a striking passage ( Il.
^ Thucydides , who quotes this passage to show the ancient character of the Delian festival, seems to have no doubt of the Homeric authorship of the hymn.
^ In it Peisistratus is made to say of himself that he "collected Homer, who was formerly sung in fragments, for the golden poet was a citizen of ours, since we Athenians founded Smyrna."
.^ Greeks spoke the same language - that is to say, that they understood one another, in spite of the inevitable local differences.
^ "So then the princess threw the ball at one of her company; she missed the girl, and cast the ball into the deep eddying current, whereat they all raised a piercing cry.- Homeric correspondences in Ulysses (overview) 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.robotwisdom.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Also they can imitate the tongues of all men and their clattering speech: each would say that he himself were singing, so close to truth is their sweet song.- Classical E-Text: THE HOMERIC HYMNS 1 - 3 20 November 2009 6:50 UTC www.theoi.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Experience shows how some one dialect in a country gains a literary supremacy to which the whole nation yields.
^ Adorable how they mock the whole hollywood-scene and I like learning more about Comic-Book-Guy, he is one funny character.- Watching: 2101 Homer the Whopper | Watch The Simpsons Online - FREE! 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.wtso.net [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ What has all this farrago about savages to do with Dionysus?” I conceive some scholar, or literary critic asking, if such an one looks into this book.
.^ So Tuscan became the type of Italian , and Anglian of English.
.^ But as soon as the dialect is adopted, it begins to diverge from the colloquial form.
.^ Just as modern poetical Italian uses many older grammatical forms peculiar to itself, so the language of poetry, even in Homeric times, had formed a deposit (so to speak) of archaic grammar.
^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
^ It is plain, in short, that the later poetical vocabulary was separated from that of prose mainly by the forms which the influence of Homer had saved from being forgotten.
.^ There were doubtless poets before Homer, as well as brave men before Agamemnon; and indeed the formation of a poetical dialect such as the Homeric must have been the work of several generations.
^ It will be enough to observe that in the earliest elegiac poets, such as Archilochus , Tyrtaeus and Theognis, reminiscences of Homeric language and thought meet us on every page.
^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
.^ Iliad and the Odyssey, and between Homer and the early Cyclic poems.
^ The use of that dialect (instead of Aeolic) by the Boeotian poet Hesiod, in a kind of poetry which was not of the Homeric type, tends to the conclusion that the literary ascendancy of the epic dialect was anterior to the Iliad and Odyssey, and independent of the influence exercised by these poems.
^ In fact, Herodotus , the fifth century historian, says that Homer and Hesiod , an epic poet contemporary with Homer, first named the gods, determined their honors and functions and devised their physical appearance (2.53).- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ What then was the original language of Homer ?
Where and
when was it spoken ? [The answer given to this question by
Aug.
.^ Fick (in 1883) and still held, with modifications, by some European scholars can no longer be maintained.
Fick's original
statement was that in or about the 6th century B.C.
the poems, which had originally worn an Aeolic
dress, were transposed into Ionic.
.^ To this it is easily answered that such an event is not only unique in history, but contrary to all that we know of the Greek genius.
^ Further, we do not know Baubo, or a counterpart of her, in the ritual of Isis, and the clay figurines of such a figure, in Egypt, are of the Greek, the Ptolemaic period.
^ All together, sharing, getting to know each other, exchanging ideas, stories and laughs, snuggling up, bonding together as only a tightly-knit family can.- The Wisdom of Homer Simpson, compiled by Sami Karjalainen 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.samikarjalainen.fi [Source type: Original source]
.^ At the period in question an Aeolic literature, the lyrics of Sappho and Alcaeus , were in existence.
.^ If it was found necessary to transpose the Aeolic Homer, why did the Aeolic lyric verse escape?
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
^ Homer : Why did I take such punishment?- The Simpsons Quotes : Homer Simpson | planetclaire.org 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.planetclaire.org [Source type: Original source]
.^ If, however, as is the view of some of Fick's followers, the transposition took place several centuries earlier, before species of literature had appropriated particular dialects, then the linguistic facts upon which Fick relied to distinguish the " Aeolic " and " Ionic " elements in Homer disappear.
^ As the dialect of the Arno in Italy , of Castille in Spain , by the virtue of the genius of the singers who used them, became literary " Italian " and " Spanish," so this variety of Achaean elevated itself to the position of the volgare illustre of Greece)] (T. W. A.) ( c ) The influence of Homer upon the subsequent course of Greek literature is a large subject, even if we restrict it to the centuries which immediately followed the Homeric age.
^ There were doubtless poets before Homer, as well as brave men before Agamemnon; and indeed the formation of a poetical dialect such as the Homeric must have been the work of several generations.
.^ When I say no I mean no, god dammit!- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
^ We have no means of knowing what the Aeolic and Ionic of say the 9th century were, or if there were such dialects at all.
^ Further proof there is no such thing as a destination job.- 1530HOMER.COM - The Official Home of the Bengals 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.1530homer.com [Source type: General]
.^ Certain prominent historical differences between Aeolic and Ionic (the digamma and a) are known to be unoriginal.
^ He noticed especially the difference between the stories known to Homer and those given by later poets, and made many comparisons between Homeric and later manners, arts and institutions.
^ The historical divergences of Achaean into Aeolian and Ionic were later than the Migration , and were due to the well-known effects of change of soil and air .
.^ The view that Homer underwent at any time a passage from one dialect to another may be dismissed.
^ It has been thought indeed that the Homeric dialect was a mixed one, mainly Ionic, but containing Aeolic and even Doric forms; this, however, is a mistaken view of the processes of language.
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
.^ The tendency of modern dialectologists is to divide the Greek dialects into Dorian and non-Dorian.
.^ The nonDorian dialects, Ionic, Attic and the various forms of Aeolic, are regarded as relatively closely akin, and go by the common name " Achaean."
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
^ The longest is written in the Ionic dialect , and bears the name of Herodotus, but is certainly spurious.
.^ They formed the common language of Greece before the Doric invasion.
^ It has been thought indeed that the Homeric dialect was a mixed one, mainly Ionic, but containing Aeolic and even Doric forms; this, however, is a mistaken view of the processes of language.
.^ As the scene which Homer depicts is prae-Dorian Greece; it is reasonable to call his language Achaean.
.^ The historical divergences of Achaean into Aeolian and Ionic were later than the Migration , and were due to the well-known effects of change of soil and air .
^ Achaeans , Argives, Danai, we find Hellenes, subdivided into Dorians , Ionians, Aeolians - names either unknown to Homer, or mentioned in terms more significant than silence.
^ In one known case, the deity, Pundjel or Bunjil, takes the wives of Karween, who is changed into a crane.
.^ To what local variety of Achaean Homeric Greek belonged it is idle to ask.
^ The Epic of Homer was doubtless formed originally from a spoken variety of Greek, but became literary and conventional with time.
.^ Thessaly, Boeotia and Mycenae have equal claims.
.^ It seems clearer that when once this local variety of Achaean had been used by poets of eminence as their vehicle for national history, it established its right to be considered the one poetical language of Hellas.
^ To what local variety of Achaean Homeric Greek belonged it is idle to ask.
^ Greeks spoke the same language - that is to say, that they understood one another, in spite of the inevitable local differences.
.^ To what local variety of Achaean Homeric Greek belonged it is idle to ask.
^ As the dialect of the Arno in Italy , of Castille in Spain , by the virtue of the genius of the singers who used them, became literary " Italian " and " Spanish," so this variety of Achaean elevated itself to the position of the volgare illustre of Greece)] (T. W. A.) ( c ) The influence of Homer upon the subsequent course of Greek literature is a large subject, even if we restrict it to the centuries which immediately followed the Homeric age.
^ It seems, then, that if we imagine Homer as a singer in a royal house of the Homeric age, but with more freedom regarding the limits of his subject, and a more tranquil audience than is allowed him in the rapid movement of the Odyssey, we shall probably not be far from the truth.
.^ It will be enough to observe that in the earliest elegiac poets, such as Archilochus , Tyrtaeus and Theognis, reminiscences of Homeric language and thought meet us on every page.
^ Such is the " action " (7rpa cs) which in Aristotle's opinion showed the superiority of Homer to all later epic poets.
^ Yet Arctinus of Miletus was said to have been a " disciple of Homer," and was certainly one of the earliest and most considerable of the " Cyclic " poets.
.^ If the same cannot be said of the ancient epic poems, that is because of the extreme scantiness of the existing fragments.
^ They must therefore have been, as Bentley had said, " a sequel of songs and rhapsodies," " loose songs not collected together in the form of an epic poem till about 50o years after."
.^ Much, however, is to be gathered from the arguments of the Trojan part of the Epic Cycle (preserved in the Codex Venetus of the Iliad, a full discussion of which will be found in the Journal of Hellenic Studies, 1884, pp.
^ Allen, Journal of Hellenic Studies , xvii.
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
1-40).
.^ An examination of these arguments throws light on two chief aspects of the relation between Homer and his " cyclic " successors.
^ The same line of argument may be extended to the Hymns, and even to some of the lost works of the post-Homeric or so-called " Cyclic " poets.
^ His remarks on Homer (in the Poetics and elsewhere) show that he had made a careful study of the structure and leading ideas of the poems, but do not throw much light on the text.
.^ They did so largely from hints and passing references in Homer.
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
^ The quotation from the Iliad is of interest because it is made in order to show that Homer supported the story of the travels of Paris to Egypt and Sidon (whereas the Cyclic poem called the Cypria ignored them), and also because the part of the Iliad from which it comes is cited as the " Aristeia of Diomede."
.^ Thus the successive episodes of the siege related at length in the Little Iliad, and ending with the story of the Wooden Horse, are nearly all taken from passages in the Odyssey.
^ Much the same may be said of the Nosti.
^ With this process of expansion and development (so to speak) of Homeric themes is combined the addition of new characters.
.^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
^ Such, in the Little Iliad (e.g.
), are the
story of the
.^ Palladium and of the treachery of Sinon.
.^ Such, too, in the Cypria are the new legendary figures - Palamedes , Iphigenia, Telephus, Laocoon .
.^ These new elements in the narrative are evidently due not only to the natural growth of legend in a people highly endowed with imagination, but in a large proportion also to the new 1 See D. B. Monro's Homer's Odyssey, books xiii.
^ They were only inspired by these popular songs; they only borrowed from them the traditional and legendary elements.
^ The first of these representations is evidently natural, considering the twenty eventful years that have passed; but the second, Kirchhoff holds, is the Ulysses of Calypso's 1 On this point see a paper by Professor Packard in the Trans.
- xxiv.
.^ (Oxford, 1901, P. 455 sqq.
), and
the abstract of his paper on the Homeric Dialect read to the
Congress of Historical Sciences at
Rome, 1903:
Atti del Congresso internazionale
di scienze storiche, ii. 152, 153, 1905, " Il Dialetto
omerico." races and countries with which the Greeks came into
contact, as well as to their own rapid advance in wealth and
civilization.
.^ It will be observed that the two poems of Arctinus are remarkable for the proportion of new matter of the latter kind.
^ The most obvious account of the matter is that Arctinus was never so far forgotten that his poems became the subject of dispute.
.^ The Aethiopis shows us the allies of Troy reinforced by two peoples that are evidently creations of oriental fancy, the Amazons and Memnon with his Aethiopians.
.^ The Iliu Persis , again, was the oldest authority for the story of Laocoon and of the consequent escape of Aeneas - a story which connected a surviving branch of the house of Priam with the later inhabitants of the Troad.
.^ On the other hand the fate of Creusa ( sed me magna deum genetrix his detinet oris ) is a link with the worship of Cybele .
.^ The journey of Calchas to Colophon and his death there, as told in the Nosti, is another instance of the kind.
.^ These facts point to a familiarity with the Greek colonies in Asia which contrasts strongly with the silence of the Iliad and Odyssey.
^ To the English reader familiar with the Iliad and Odyssey the Hymns must appear disappointing, if he come to them with an expectation of discovering merits like those of the immortal epics.
^ The result of these various considerations seems to be that the age which we may call the Homeric - the age which is brought before us in vivid outlines in the Iliad and Odyssey - lies beyond the earliest point to which history enables us to penetrate.
Study of Homer.
- The Homeric Question. -
.^ The critical study of Homer began in Greece almost with the beginning of prose writing.
^ In this way the great Alexandrian school of Homeric criticism began with Zenodotus , the first chief of the museum, and was continued by Aristophanes and Aristarchus .
.^ The first name is that of Theagenes of Rhegium, contemporary of Cambyses (525 B.C.), who is said to have founded the " new grammar " (the older " grammar " being the art of reading and writing), and to have been the inventor of the allegorical interpretations by which it was sought to reconcile the Homeric mythology with the morality and speculative ideas of the 6th century B.C. The same attitude in the " ancient quarrel of poetry and philosophy " was soon afterwards taken by Anaxagoras ; and after him by his pupil Metrodorus of Lampsacus , who explained away all the gods, and even the heroes, as elementary substances and forces (Agamemnon as the upper air, &c.
^ In fact, Herodotus , the fifth century historian, says that Homer and Hesiod , an epic poet contemporary with Homer, first named the gods, determined their honors and functions and devised their physical appearance (2.53).- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Everything in short was ripe for the reception of a book that brought together, with masterly ease and vigour, the old and the new Homeric learning, and drew from it the historical proof that Homer was no single poet, writing according to art and rule, but a name which stood for a golden age of the true spontaneous poetry of genius and nature.
).
.^ The next writers on Homer of the " grammatical " type were Stesimbrotus of Thasos (contemporary with Cimon) and Antimachus of Colophon, himself an epic poet of mark.
^ In fact, Herodotus , the fifth century historian, says that Homer and Hesiod , an epic poet contemporary with Homer, first named the gods, determined their honors and functions and devised their physical appearance (2.53).- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Such is the " action " (7rpa cs) which in Aristotle's opinion showed the superiority of Homer to all later epic poets.
.^ The Thebaid of Antimachus, however, was not popular, and seems to have been a great storehouse of mythological learning rather than a poem of the Homeric school.
^ The contention for Homer, in short, began at a time when his real history was lost, and he had become a sort of mythical figure, an " eponymous hero," or personification of a great school of poetry .
^ It seems probable therefore that the introduction of the alphabet is not later than the composition of the Homeric poems.
.^ Other names of the pre-Socratic and Socratic times are mentioned by Xenophon , Plato and Aristotle.
.^ These were the " ancient Homerics " (01 apXaEoe `O,unpuccl ), who busied themselves much with the hidden meanings of Homer; of whom Aristotle says, with his profound insight, that they see the small likenesses and overlook the great ones ( Metaph.
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^ When we are satisfied that each of the great Homeric poems is either wholly or mainly the work of a single poet, a question remains which has been matter of controversy in ancient as well as modern times - Are they the work of the same poet?
).
.^ The text of Homer must have attracted some attention when Antimachus came to be known as the " corrector " ( ScopOwTi 7 s ) of a distinct edition (iicSovcs).
^ The editio princeps of Homer, published at Florence in 1488, by Demetrius Chalcondylas, and the Aldine editions of 1504 and 1517, have still some value beyond that of curiosity.
^ Such attempts usually start with the tacit assumption that each of the persons concerned - Lycurgus, Solon, Peisistratus, Hipparchus - must have done something for the text of Homer, or for the regulation of the rhapsodists.
.^ Aristotle is said himself to have made a recension for the use of Alexander the Great .
This is unlikely.
.^ His remarks on Homer (in the Poetics and elsewhere) show that he had made a careful study of the structure and leading ideas of the poems, but do not throw much light on the text.
^ The quotation from the Iliad is of interest because it is made in order to show that Homer supported the story of the travels of Paris to Egypt and Sidon (whereas the Cyclic poem called the Cypria ignored them), and also because the part of the Iliad from which it comes is cited as the " Aristeia of Diomede."
^ He has made the occasional remark denoting his attraction to other women (including his neighbor's wife ), even in front of Marge on a occasion, but always shows his devotion to Marge in the end.- Homer Jay Simpson - Simpsons Wiki 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC simpsons.wikia.com [Source type: General]
.^ The real work of criticism became possible only when great collections of manuscripts began to be made by the princes of the generation after Alexander, and when men of learning were employed to sift and arrange these treasures.
^ The splendid patronage of letters by the successors of Alexander, and especially the great institutions which had been founded at Alexandria and Pergamum , had made an impression on the imagination of learned men which was reflected in the current notions of the ancient despots.
^ By presenting an array of discordant conjectures as to the number and nature of these scraps, he demonstrates the purely wilful and arbitrary nature of the critical method employed.
.^ In this way the great Alexandrian school of Homeric criticism began with Zenodotus , the first chief of the museum, and was continued by Aristophanes and Aristarchus .
^ The critical study of Homer began in Greece almost with the beginning of prose writing.
^ Against the theory which sees in Peisistratus the author of the first complete text of Homer we have to set the absolute silence of Herodotus, Thucydides, the orators and the Alexandrian grammarians.
.^ In Aristarchus ancient philology culminated, as philosophy had done in Socrates .
.^ All earlier learning either passed into his writings, or was lost; all subsequent research turned upon his critical and grammatical work.
^ I bet Einstein turned himself into all sorts of colors before he invented the light bulb.- Homer Simpson Quotes of Wisdom - Page 1 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC www.angelfire.com [Source type: Original source]
^ What has all this farrago about savages to do with Dionysus?” I conceive some scholar, or literary critic asking, if such an one looks into this book.
.^ The means of forming a judgment of the Alexandrine criticism are scanty.
.^ The literary form which preserved the works of the great historians was unfortunately wanting, or was not sufficiently valued, in the case of the grammarians.
^ Literary works are divided into various categories called genres in accordance with their characteristic form and content.- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ Abridgments and newer treatises soon drove out the writings of Aristarchus and other founders of the science.
.^ Moreover, a recension could not be reproduced without new errors soon creeping in.
.^ Indeed, the object of his work seems to have been to determine what those readings were.
^ Thus we find that Didymus , writing in the time of Cicero , does not quote the readings of Aristarchus as we should quote a textus receptus.
^ Didymus (contemporary of Cicero) on the recension of Aristarchus, Aristonicus (fl.
.^ Enough, however, remains to show that Aristarchus had a clear notion of the chief problems of philology (except perhaps those concerning etymology ).
.^ He saw, for example, that it was not enough to find a meaning for the archaic words (the yXwvaae, as they were called), but that common words (such as lrovos, go(30s) had their Homeric uses, which were to be gathered by due induction .
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^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
.^ In the same spirit he looked upon the ideas and beliefs of Homer as a consistent whole, which might be determined from the evidence of the poems.
^ Failing external testimony, the time and place of the Homeric poems can only be determined (if at all) by internal evidence.
^ This is of two main kinds: (a) evidence of history, consisting in a comparison of the political and social condition, the geography , the institutions, the manners, arts and ideas of Homer with those of other times; ( b ) evidence of language, consisting in a comparison with later dialects, in respect of grammar and vocabulary.
.^ He noticed especially the difference between the stories known to Homer and those given by later poets, and made many comparisons between Homeric and later manners, arts and institutions.
^ This is of two main kinds: (a) evidence of history, consisting in a comparison of the political and social condition, the geography , the institutions, the manners, arts and ideas of Homer with those of other times; ( b ) evidence of language, consisting in a comparison with later dialects, in respect of grammar and vocabulary.
^ Rear me this child that the Gods have given in my later years and beyond my hope; and he is to me a child of many prayers.
.^ Again, he was sensible of the paramount value of manuscript authority, and appears to have introduced no readings from mere conjecture.
.^ The frequent mention in the Scholia of " better " and inferior " texts may indicate a classification made by him or by the general opinion of critics.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
.^ His use of the " obelus " to distinguish spurious verses, which made so large a part of his fame in antiquity, has rather told against him with modern scholars.'
.^ It is chiefly interesting as a proof of the confusion in which the text must have been before the Alexandrian times; for it is impossible to understand the readiness of Aristarchus to suspect the genuineness of verses unless the state of the copies had pointed to the existence of numerous interpolations.
^ But the question is - From what time are we to suppose that the preservation of long poems was generally secured by the existence of written copies?
^ It may just be glorified copy/pasting, but as another poster pointed out, it takes time, talent and dedication to do what you did.
.^ These, however, are matters of conjecture.
^ On this matter, however, we are left to conjecture.
.^ Our knowledge of Alexandrian criticism is derived almost wholly from a single document, the famous Iliad of the library of St Mark in Venice ( Codex Venetus 454, or Ven.
.^ This manuscript, written in the 10th century, contains (1) the best text of the Iliad, (2) the critical marks of Aristarchus and (3) Scholia, consisting mainly of extracts from four grammatical works, viz.
^ A ), first published by the French scholar Villoison in 1788 ( Scholia antiquissima ad Homeri Iliadem).
^ The unique Scholia Veneta on the Iliad were first made known by Villoison ( Homeri Ilias ad veteris codicis Veneti fidem recensita, Scholia in earn antiquissima ex eodem codice aliisque nunc primum edidit, cum A steriscis, Obeliscis, aliisque signis criticis, Joh.
.^ Didymus (contemporary of Cicero) on the recension of Aristarchus, Aristonicus (fl.
^ Thus we find that Didymus , writing in the time of Cicero , does not quote the readings of Aristarchus as we should quote a textus receptus.
.^ B.C.) on the critical marks of Aristarchus, Herodian (fl.
.^ A.D. 160) on the accentuation, and Nicanor (fl.
.^ These extracts present themselves in two distinct forms.
^ These speeches form the cardinal points in the action of the Iliad - the framework into which everything else is set; and they have also the best title to the name of Homer.
^ Wolf had argued that if the cyclic writers had known the Iliad and Odyssey which we possess, they would have imitated the unity of structure which distinguishes these two poems.
.^ One series of scholia is written in the usual way, on a margin reserved for the purpose.
.^ The other consists of brief scholia, written in very small characters (but of the same period) on the narrow space left vacant round the text.
^ This manuscript, written in the 10th century, contains (1) the best text of the Iliad, (2) the critical marks of Aristarchus and (3) Scholia, consisting mainly of extracts from four grammatical works, viz.
.^ Occasionally a scholium of this kind gives the substance of one of the longer extracts; but as a rule they are distinct.
^ The reason for this is that sometimes a longer epithet is needed to suit the meter, while on other occasions a shorter one is needed.- Homer's Iliad 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC ablemedia.com [Source type: Original source]
^ Some may be fragments of longer poems, but evidently they are not the work of any one poet.
.^ It would seem, therefore, that after the manuscript was finished the " marginal scholia " were discovered to be extremely defective, and a new series of extracts was added in a form which interfered as little as possible with the appearance of the book.'
^ One series of scholia is written in the usual way, on a margin reserved for the purpose.
.^ The mention of the Venetian Scholia leads us at once to the Homeric controversy; for the immortal Prolegomena of F. A. Wolf 3 appeared a few years after Villoison's publication, and was founded in great measure upon the fresh and abundant materials which it furnished.
^ Although Wolf at once perceived the value of the Venetian Scholia on the Iliad, the first scholar who thoroughly explored them was C. Lehrs ( De Aristarchi studiis Homericis, Konigsberg , 1833; 2nd ed., Leipzig, 1865).
^ The Prolegomena bore on the title-page the words " Volumen I."; but no second volume ever appeared, nor was any attempt made by Wolf himself to carry his theory further.
.^ Not that the " Wolfian theory " of the Homeric poems is directly supported by anything in the Scholia; the immediate object of the Prolegomena was not to put forward that theory, but to elucidate the new and remarkable conditions under which the text of Homer had to be settled, viz.
^ His remarks on Homer (in the Poetics and elsewhere) show that he had made a careful study of the structure and leading ideas of the poems, but do not throw much light on the text.
^ Strabo also says that the Chians put forward the Homeridae as an argument in support of their claim to Homer.
the discovery of an
.^ See “Costumal of the Thirteenth Century,” with much learning on the subject, in Mr. Elton’s “Origins of English History,” especially p.
^ The Christian Fathers, Clemens of Alexandria at least, make this a part of their attack on the Mysteries; but it may be said that they were prejudiced or misinformed.
^ Homer may have been alarmed at how rigid my body had become, or perhaps by the fact that I was awake, yet not speaking to him in my usual reassuring tones.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
.^ The 18th century, in which the spirit of classical correctness had the most absolute dominion, did not come to an end before a powerful reaction set in, which affected not only literature but also speculation and politics.
^ The preservation of this vast mass can only be attributed to writing, which must therefore have been in use for two centuries or more before there was any considerable prose literature.
.^ In this movement the leading ideas were concentrated in the word Nature.
.^ The natural condition of society, natural law, natural religion, the poetry of nature, gained a singular hold, first on the English philosophers from Hume onwards, and then (through Rousseau chiefly) on the general drift of thought and action in Europe .
.^ In literature the effect of these ideas was to set up a false opposition between nature and art.
^ To these may be added, as occasionally of value, ( c ) much evidence of the direct influence of Homer upon the subsequent course of literature and art.
.^ As political writers imagined a patriarchal innocence prior to codes of law, so men of letters sought in popular unwritten poetry the freshness and simplicity which were wanting in the prevailing styles.
^ It is his noble and powerful style, sustained through every change of idea and subject, that finally separates Homer from all forms of " ballad-poetry " and " popular epic."
.^ The blind minstrel was the counterpart of the noble savage .
.^ The supposed discovery of the poems of Ossian fell in with this train of sentiment, and created an enthusiasm for the study of early popular poetry.
.^ Homer was soon drawn into the circle of inquiry.
.^ Of the earlier books Wood's Essay on the Original Genius and Writings of Homer is the most interesting.
^ Blackwell (Professor of Greek at Aberdeen) had insisted, in a book published in 1735, on the "naturalness" of Homer; and Wood ( Essay on the Original Genius of Homer, London , 1769) was the first who maintained that Homer composed without the help of writing, and supported his thesis by ancient authority, and also by the parallel of Ossian.
^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
.^ Both these books were translated into German, and their ideas passed into the popular philosophy of the day.
^ He points out some resemblances between these three books and the Argonautic fables, among them the circumstance that a fountain Artacia occurs in both.
.^ Everything in short was ripe for the reception of a book that brought together, with masterly ease and vigour, the old and the new Homeric learning, and drew from it the historical proof that Homer was no single poet, writing according to art and rule, but a name which stood for a golden age of the true spontaneous poetry of genius and nature.
^ Blackwell (Professor of Greek at Aberdeen) had insisted, in a book published in 1735, on the "naturalness" of Homer; and Wood ( Essay on the Original Genius of Homer, London , 1769) was the first who maintained that Homer composed without the help of writing, and supported his thesis by ancient authority, and also by the parallel of Ossian.
^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
.^ The part of the Prolegomena which deals with the original form of the Homeric poems occupies pp.
^ The result of Welcker's labours was to show that the Homeric poems had influenced both the form and the substance of epic poetry.
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xl. - clx. (in the
first edition).
.^ Wolf shows how the question of the date of writing meets us on the 1 See the chapter in Cobet's Miscellanea critica, pp.
^ It would be cool if you would make a tutoriel to show us how you make this :D .
^ The only question was how clawed up and bloodied the burglar, or I, or both of us, would get in the process of my subduing him.- Night of the Hunter - Gwen Cooper - Open Salon 16 January 2010 0:00 UTC open.salon.com [Source type: Original source]
225-239.
.^ The existence of two groups of the Venetian Scholia was first noticed by Jacob La Roche , and they were first distinguished in the edition of W. Dindorf (Oxford, 1875).
^ A new edition has been published by the Oxford Press ( Scholia Graeca in Homeri Iliadem, ed.
^ The Scholia on the Odyssey were published by Buttmann (Berlin, 1821), and with greater approach to completeness by W. Dindorf (Oxford, 1855).
.^ There is also a group of Scholia, chiefly exegetical, a collection of which was published by Villoison from a MS. Ven.
^ A ), first published by the French scholar Villoison in 1788 ( Scholia antiquissima ad Homeri Iliadem).
453 (s. xi.) in his edition of
.^ W. Dindorf (Oxford, 1877).
.^ The most important collection of this group is contained in the Codex Townleianus (Burney 86 s.
xi.) of the
.^ British Museum, edited by E. Maass, (Oxford, 1887-1888).
^ Dindorfius); six volumes have appeared (1875-1888), the last two edited by Professor E. Maass.
.^ The vast commentary of Eustathius (of the 12th century) marks a third stage in the progress of ancient Homeric learning.
^ The vast commentary of Eustathius was first printed at Rome in 1542; the last edition is that of Stallbaum (Leipzig, 1827).
.^ Prolegomena ad Homerum, sive de operum Homericorum prisca et genuina forma variisque mutationibus et probabili ratione emendandi, scripsit Frid.
Aug. Wolfius, volumen i. (1795).
.^ Homer and accordingly enters into a full discussion, first of the external evidence, then of the indications furnished by the poems.
^ In this case we have to consider not merely the indications of the poems, but also the external evidence which we possess regarding the use of writing in Greece.
^ Failing external testimony, the time and place of the Homeric poems can only be determined (if at all) by internal evidence.
.^ Having satisfied himself that writing was unknown to Homer, he is led to consider the real mode of transmission, and finds this in the Rhapsodists, of whom the Homeridae were an hereditary school.
^ If the language of Homer is so ambiguous where the use of writing would naturally be mentioned, we cannot expect to find more decisive references elsewhere.
^ The contention for Homer, in short, began at a time when his real history was lost, and he had become a sort of mythical figure, an " eponymous hero," or personification of a great school of poetry .
.^ And then comes the conclusion to which all this has been tending: " the die is cast " - the Iliad and Odyssey cannot have been composed in the form in which we know them without the aid of writing.
^ Thus the successive episodes of the siege related at length in the Little Iliad, and ending with the story of the Wooden Horse, are nearly all taken from passages in the Odyssey.
^ At all events we have here work visibly third rate, which cannot be said, in my poor opinion, about the immense mass of the Iliad and Odyssey.
.^ They must therefore have been, as Bentley had said, " a sequel of songs and rhapsodies," " loose songs not collected together in the form of an epic poem till about 50o years after."
^ But between these lays and Homer we must place the cultivation of epic poetry as an art.2 The pre-Homeric lays doubtless furnished the elements of such a poetry - the alphabet, so to speak, of the art; but they must have been refined and transmuted before they formed poems like the Iliad and Odyssey.
^ This, then, is the plausible explanation of most of the brief Hymns—they were preludes to epic recitations—but the question as to the long narrative Hymns with which the collection opens is different.
.^ Iliad and the Odyssey, and between Homer and the early Cyclic poems.
^ This conclusion he then supports by the character attributed to the " Cyclic " poems (whose want of unity showed that the structure of the Iliad and Odyssey must be the work of a later time), by one or two indications of imperfect connexion, and by the doubts of ancient critics as to the genuineness of certain parts.
^ The ancient Chorizontes observed that the messenger of Zeus is Iris in the Iliad, but Hermes in the Odyssey; that the wife of Hephaestus is one of the Charites in the Iliad, but Aphrodite in the Odyssey; that the heroes in the Iliad do not eat fish ; that Crete has a hundred cities according to the Iliad, and only ninety according to the Odyssey; that 7rpoirapotOe is used in the Iliad of place, in the Odyssey of time, &c.
.^ These, however, are matters of conjecture.
^ On this matter, however, we are left to conjecture.
" Historia loquitur."
.^ The voice of antiquity is unanimous in declaring that " Peisistratus first committed the poems of Homer to writing, and reduced them to the order in which we now read them."
^ The question whether writing was known in the time of Homer was raised in antiquity, and has been debated with especial eagerness ever since the appearance of Wolf's Prolegomena.
^ Let us now compare these data with the account given in the Homeric poems.
.^ The appeal of Wolf to the " voice of all antiquity " is by no means borne out by the different statements on the subject.
^ Homer uses no constructions loosely or without corresponding differences of meaning.
^ We have no means of knowing what the Aeolic and Ionic of say the 9th century were, or if there were such dialects at all.
.^ According to Heraclides Ponticus (pupil of Plato), the poetry of Homer was first brought to the Peloponnesus by Lycurgus, who obtained it from the descendants of Creophylus ( Polit.
^ He adds that there was a famous rhapsodist, Cynaethus of Chios, who was said to be the author of the Hymn to Apollo, and to have first recited Homer at Syracuse about the 69th Olympiad .
^ Under these influences the older stories of Lycurgus bringing Homer to the Peloponnesus, and Solon providing for the recitation at Athens, were thrown into the shade.
2).
.^ Plutarch in his Life of Lycurgus (c.
.^ Greece, and that certain detached fragments were in the possession of a few persons.
^ In this case we have to consider not merely the indications of the poems, but also the external evidence which we possess regarding the use of writing in Greece.
^ And although we hear of " descendants of Creophylus " as in possession of the Homeric poems, there is no similar story about descendants of Homer himself.
.^ The Platonic dialogue Hipparchus attributes it to Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus .
^ Again, the Platonic dialogue Hip parchus (which though not genuine is probably earlier than the Alexandrian times) asserts that Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus, first brought the poems to Athens, and obliged the rhapsodists at the Panathenaea to follow the order of the text, " as they still do," instead of reciting portions chosen at will.
^ Only that Homer was recited in fragments by the rhapsodists, and that these partial recitations were made into a continuous whole by Peisistratus; which does not necessarily mean more than that Peisistratus did what other authorities ascribe to Solon and Hipparchus, viz.
.^ Quis doctior eisdem temporibus illis, aut cujus eloquentia litteris instructior fuisse traditur quam Pisistrati ?
^ The earliest authority for attributing any work of the kind to Peisistratus is the well-known passage of Cicero ( De Orat.
^ Thus all the authority for the work of Peisistratus " reduces itself to the testimony of a single anonymous inscription " (Nutzhorn p.
qui primus
.^ Homeri libros, confusos antea, sic disposuisse dicitur ut nunc habemus ").
.^ To the same effect Pausanias (vii.
p.
.^ Donoessa to Gonoessa (in Il.
.^ Peisistratus or one of his companions," when he collected the poems, which were then in a fragmentary condition.
^ In it Peisistratus is made to say of himself that he "collected Homer, who was formerly sung in fragments, for the golden poet was a citizen of ours, since we Athenians founded Smyrna."
^ The other statements repeat these words with various minor additions, chiefly intended to explain how the poems had been reduced to this fragmentary condition, and how Peisistratus set to work to restore them.
.^ Finally, Diogenes Laertius (i.
.^ Solon made a law that the poems should be recited " with prompting " (E inro/30Xij).
^ Each one is more disturbing than the last.
^ Solon made a law that the poems should be recited with the help of a prompter so that each rhapsodist should begin where the last left off; and he argues from this that Solon did more than Peisistratus to make Homer known.
.^ The argument is directed against a certain Dieuchidas of Megara , who appears to have maintained that the verses about Athens in the Catalogue ( Il.
54 6 -55 6) were interpolated by
Peisistratus.
.^ The passage is unfortunately corrupt, but it is at least clear that in the time of Solon, according to Diogenes, there were complete copies of the poems, such as could be used to control the recitations.
^ The question as between Solon and Hipparchus cannot be settled; but it is at least clear that a due order of recitation was secured by the presence of a person charged to give the rhapsodists their cue (uiro(iXXav).
^ But the question is - From what time are we to suppose that the preservation of long poems was generally secured by the existence of written copies?
.^ Hence the account of Diogenes is quite irreconcilable with the notices on which Wolf relied.
.^ It is needless to examine the attempts which have been made to harmonize these accounts.
.^ Such attempts usually start with the tacit assumption that each of the persons concerned - Lycurgus, Solon, Peisistratus, Hipparchus - must have done something for the text of Homer, or for the regulation of the rhapsodists.
^ The text of Homer must have attracted some attention when Antimachus came to be known as the " corrector " ( ScopOwTi 7 s ) of a distinct edition (iicSovcs).
^ Only that Homer was recited in fragments by the rhapsodists, and that these partial recitations were made into a continuous whole by Peisistratus; which does not necessarily mean more than that Peisistratus did what other authorities ascribe to Solon and Hipparchus, viz.
.^ But we have first to consider whether any of the accounts come to us on such evidence that we are bound to consider them as containing a nucleus of truth.
^ Consider, am I even in aspect such as I was when first thine eyes beheld me?” .
.^ In the first place, the statement that Lycurgus obtained the poems from descendants of Creophylus must be admitted to be purely mythical.
^ And although we hear of " descendants of Creophylus " as in possession of the Homeric poems, there is no similar story about descendants of Homer himself.
^ According to Heraclides Ponticus (pupil of Plato), the poetry of Homer was first brought to the Peloponnesus by Lycurgus, who obtained it from the descendants of Creophylus ( Polit.
.^ But if we reject it, have we any better reason for believing the parallel assertion in the Platonic Hipparchus?
^ It is true that Hipparchus is undoubtedly a real person.
.^ On the other hand it is evident that the Peisistratidae soon became the subject of many fables.
.^ Thucydides notices as a popular mistake the belief that Hipparchus was the eldest son of Peisistratus, and that consequently he was the reigning " tyrant " when he was killed by Aristogiton.
^ It may even be suspected that anecdotes in praise of Peisistratus and Hipparchus were a delicate form of flattery addressed to the reigning Ptolemy .
^ The author makes (perhaps wilfully) all the mistakes about the family of Peisistratus which Thucydides notices in a well-known passage (vi.
.^ The Platonic Hipparchus follows this erroneous version, and may therefore be regarded as representing (at best) mere local tradition.
.^ We may reasonably go further, and see in this part of the dialogue a piece of historical romance, designed to put the " tyrant " family in a favourable light, as patrons of literature and learning.
^ Further, the want of smoothness and unity which is visible in this part of the Iliad may be due to other causes than difference of date or authorship.
^ This, however, is part of the historical romance of Compare the branch of myrtle at an Athenian feast (Aristoph., Nub., 1364).
.^ Again, the account of the Hipparchus is contradicted by Diogenes Laertius, who says that Solon provided for the due recitation of the Homeric poems.
^ Only that Homer was recited in fragments by the rhapsodists, and that these partial recitations were made into a continuous whole by Peisistratus; which does not necessarily mean more than that Peisistratus did what other authorities ascribe to Solon and Hipparchus, viz.
^ They are epic in character, and were recited by professional jongleurs (who may be compared to the aouSoi of Homer).
.^ The only good authorities as to this point are the orators Lycurgus and Isocrates , who mention the law prescribing the recitation, but do not say when or by whom it was enacted.
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^ The result of these considerations seems to be that nothing rests on good evidence beyond the fact that Homer was recited by law at the Panathenaic festival.
.^ The inference seems a fair one, that the author of the law was really unknown.
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.^ With regard to the statements which attribute some work in connexion with Homer to Peisistratus, it was noticed by Wolf that Cicero, Pausanias and the others who mention the matter do so nearly in the same words, and, therefore, appear to have drawn from a common source.
^ It was equally natural that the importance of his work as regards the text of Homer should be exaggerated.
^ When we are satisfied that each of the great Homeric poems is either wholly or mainly the work of a single poet, a question remains which has been matter of controversy in ancient as well as modern times - Are they the work of the same poet?
.^ This source was .in all probability an epigram quoted in two of the short lives of Homer, and there said to have been inscribed on the statue of Peisistratus at Athens.
^ It is impossible of course to believe that a statue of Peisistratus was set up at Athens in the time of the free republic.
^ He adds that there was a famous rhapsodist, Cynaethus of Chios, who was said to be the author of the Hymn to Apollo, and to have first recited Homer at Syracuse about the 69th Olympiad .
In it Peisistratus is made to say
of himself that he "collected Homer, who was formerly sung in
fragments, for the golden poet was a
citizen of ours, since we Athenians founded
Smyrna." The other statements repeat these words with various minor
additions, chiefly intended to explain how the poems had been
reduced to this fragmentary condition, and how Peisistratus set to
work to restore them.
.^ Thus all the authority for the work of Peisistratus " reduces itself to the testimony of a single anonymous inscription " (Nutzhorn p.
^ His speculations were thoroughly in harmony with the ideas and sentiment of the time, and his historical arguments, especially his long array of testimonies to the work of Peisistratus, were hardly challenged.
^ The earliest authority for attributing any work of the kind to Peisistratus is the well-known passage of Cicero ( De Orat.
40).
.^ Now, what is the value of that testimony?
.^ It is impossible of course to believe that a statue of Peisistratus was set up at Athens in the time of the free republic.
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^ This source was .in all probability an epigram quoted in two of the short lives of Homer, and there said to have been inscribed on the statue of Peisistratus at Athens.
.^ The epigram is almost certainly a mere literary exercise.
.^ And what exactly does it say?
.^ Only that Homer was recited in fragments by the rhapsodists, and that these partial recitations were made into a continuous whole by Peisistratus; which does not necessarily mean more than that Peisistratus did what other authorities ascribe to Solon and Hipparchus, viz.
^ Again, the Platonic dialogue Hip parchus (which though not genuine is probably earlier than the Alexandrian times) asserts that Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus, first brought the poems to Athens, and obliged the rhapsodists at the Panathenaea to follow the order of the text, " as they still do," instead of reciting portions chosen at will.
^ Solon made a law that the poems should be recited with the help of a prompter so that each rhapsodist should begin where the last left off; and he argues from this that Solon did more than Peisistratus to make Homer known.
regulated the recitation.
.^ Against the theory which sees in Peisistratus the author of the first complete text of Homer we have to set the absolute silence of Herodotus, Thucydides, the orators and the Alexandrian grammarians.
^ As to Baumeister’s theory that the second part is Hesiodic, Gemoll finds a Hesiodic reminiscence in the first part (line 121), while there are Homeric reminiscences in the second part.
^ The author makes (perhaps wilfully) all the mistakes about the family of Peisistratus which Thucydides notices in a well-known passage (vi.
.^ And it can hardly be thought that their silence is accidental.
.^ Herodotus and Thucydides seem to tell us all that they know of Peisistratus.
^ Thus hither have I come in my wandering, nor know I at all what land is this, nor who they be that dwell therein.
^ The author makes (perhaps wilfully) all the mistakes about the family of Peisistratus which Thucydides notices in a well-known passage (vi.
.^ The orators Lycurgus and Isocrates make a great deal of the recitation of Homer at the Panathenaea, but know nothing of the poems having been collected and arranged at Athens, a fact which would have redounded still more to the honour of the city.
^ Again, the Platonic dialogue Hip parchus (which though not genuine is probably earlier than the Alexandrian times) asserts that Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus, first brought the poems to Athens, and obliged the rhapsodists at the Panathenaea to follow the order of the text, " as they still do," instead of reciting portions chosen at will.
^ The result of the notices now collected is to show that the early history of epic recitation consists of (r) passages in the Homeric hymns showing that poets contended for the prize at the great festivals, (2) the passing mention in Herodotus of rhapsodists at Sicyon, and (3) a law at Athens, of unknown date, regulating the recitation at the Panathenaea.
.^ Finally, the Scholia of the Ven.
.^ A contain no reference or allusion to the story of Peisistratus.
.^ As these Scholia are derived in substance from the writings of Aristarchus, it seems impossible to believe that the story was known to him.
.^ The circumstance that it is referred to in the Scholia Townleiana and in Eustathius, gives additional weight to this argument.
.^ The result of these considerations seems to be that nothing rests on good evidence beyond the fact that Homer was recited by law at the Panathenaic festival.
^ Their instinct was correct, and we must not start the consideration of the Homeric question from these much neglected pieces.
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.^ The rest of the story is probably the result of gradual expansion and accretion .
.^ It was inevitable that later writers should speculate about the authorship of such a law, and that it should be attributed with more or less confidence to Solon or Peisistratus or Hipparchus.
^ Only that Homer was recited in fragments by the rhapsodists, and that these partial recitations were made into a continuous whole by Peisistratus; which does not necessarily mean more than that Peisistratus did what other authorities ascribe to Solon and Hipparchus, viz.
^ Solon made a law that the poems should be recited " with prompting " (E inro/30Xij).
.^ The choice would be determined in great measure by political feeling.
.^ It is probably not an accident that Dieuchidas, who attributed so much to Peisistratus, was a Megarian.
.^ The author of the Hipparchus is evidently influenced by the anti-democratical tendencies in which he only followed Plato.
.^ In the times to which the story of Peisistratus can be traced, the 1st century B.C., the substitution of the " tyrant " for the legislator was extremely natural.
.^ It was equally natural that the importance of his work as regards the text of Homer should be exaggerated.
.^ The splendid patronage of letters by the successors of Alexander, and especially the great institutions which had been founded at Alexandria and Pergamum , had made an impression on the imagination of learned men which was reflected in the current notions of the ancient despots.
^ The real work of criticism became possible only when great collections of manuscripts began to be made by the princes of the generation after Alexander, and when men of learning were employed to sift and arrange these treasures.
^ He noticed especially the difference between the stories known to Homer and those given by later poets, and made many comparisons between Homeric and later manners, arts and institutions.
.^ It may even be suspected that anecdotes in praise of Peisistratus and Hipparchus were a delicate form of flattery addressed to the reigning Ptolemy .
^ Thucydides notices as a popular mistake the belief that Hipparchus was the eldest son of Peisistratus, and that consequently he was the reigning " tyrant " when he was killed by Aristogiton.
.^ Under these influences the older stories of Lycurgus bringing Homer to the Peloponnesus, and Solon providing for the recitation at Athens, were thrown into the shade.
^ Only that Homer was recited in fragments by the rhapsodists, and that these partial recitations were made into a continuous whole by Peisistratus; which does not necessarily mean more than that Peisistratus did what other authorities ascribe to Solon and Hipparchus, viz.
^ At Athens there was a law that the Homeric poems should be recited ( 1 5446a-eat ) on every occasion of the Panathenaea .
.^ In the later Byzantine times it was believed that Peisistratus was aided by seventy grammarians, of whom Zenodotus and Aristarchus were the chief.
^ In this way the great Alexandrian school of Homeric criticism began with Zenodotus , the first chief of the museum, and was continued by Aristophanes and Aristarchus .
^ It is impossible of course to believe that a statue of Peisistratus was set up at Athens in the time of the free republic.
.^ The great Alexandrian grammarians had become figures in a new mythology.
^ The contention for Homer, in short, began at a time when his real history was lost, and he had become a sort of mythical figure, an " eponymous hero," or personification of a great school of poetry .
.^ It is true that Tzetzes, one of the writers from whom we have this story, gives a better version, according to which Peisistratus employed four men, viz.
^ This has been especially noticed in the case of the story of Polyphemus , one that is found in many countries, and in versions which cannot all be derived from Homer.
.^ Onomacritus , Zopyrus of Heraclea , Orpheus of Croton, and one whose name is corrupt (written EbrucoyxuXos).
.^ Many scholars (among them Ritschl) accept this account as probable.
.^ Yet it rests upon no better evidence than the other.
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^ Thus the Greek genius had other and better materials to work on, in evolving Demeter, than the rather lowly animal which is associated with her rites.
.^ The effect of Wolf's Prolegomena was so overwhelming that, although a few protests were made at the time, the true Homeric controversy did not begin till after Wolf's death (1824).
^ The question whether writing was known in the time of Homer was raised in antiquity, and has been debated with especial eagerness ever since the appearance of Wolf's Prolegomena.
^ The Prolegomena bore on the title-page the words " Volumen I."; but no second volume ever appeared, nor was any attempt made by Wolf himself to carry his theory further.
.^ His speculations were thoroughly in harmony with the ideas and sentiment of the time, and his historical arguments, especially his long array of testimonies to the work of Peisistratus, were hardly challenged.
^ Thus all the authority for the work of Peisistratus " reduces itself to the testimony of a single anonymous inscription " (Nutzhorn p.
.^ The first considerable antagonist of the Wolfian school was G. W. Nitzsch, whose writings cover the years 1828-1862, and deal with every side of the controversy.
.^ In the earlier part of his Meletemata (1830) he took up the question of written or unwritten literature, on which Wolf's whole argument turned, and showed that the art of writing must be anterior to Peisistratus.
^ All earlier learning either passed into his writings, or was lost; all subsequent research turned upon his critical and grammatical work.
^ Wolf shows how the question of the date of writing meets us on the 1 See the chapter in Cobet's Miscellanea critica, pp.
.^ In the later part of the same series of discussions (1837), and in his chief work ( Die Sagenpoesie der Griechen, 1852), he investigated the structure of the Homeric poems, and their relation to the other epics of the Trojan cycle.
^ When we are satisfied that each of the great Homeric poems is either wholly or mainly the work of a single poet, a question remains which has been matter of controversy in ancient as well as modern times - Are they the work of the same poet?
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
.^ These epics had meanwhile been made the subject of a work which for exhaustive learning and delicacy of artistic perception has few rivals in the history of philology, the Epic Cycle of F. G. Welcker.
^ The real work of criticism became possible only when great collections of manuscripts began to be made by the princes of the generation after Alexander, and when men of learning were employed to sift and arrange these treasures.
^ See “Costumal of the Thirteenth Century,” with much learning on the subject, in Mr. Elton’s “Origins of English History,” especially p.
.^ The confusion which previous scholars had made between the ancient post-Homeric poets (Arctinus, Lesches, &c.
^ The practice of poets or rhapsodists contending for the prize at the great religious festivals is of considerable antiquity, though apparently post-Homeric.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
) and the learned mythological
writers
.^ Horace) was first cleared up by Welcker.
.^ Iliad and the Odyssey, and between Homer and the early Cyclic poems.
^ Wolf had argued that if the cyclic writers had known the Iliad and Odyssey which we possess, they would have imitated the unity of structure which distinguishes these two poems.
^ The art with which these threads are woven together was recognized by Wolf himself, who admitted the difficulty of applying his theory to the " admirabilis summa et compages " of the poem.
.^ The result of Welcker's labours was to show that the Homeric poems had influenced both the form and the substance of epic poetry.
^ But between these lays and Homer we must place the cultivation of epic poetry as an art.2 The pre-Homeric lays doubtless furnished the elements of such a poetry - the alphabet, so to speak, of the art; but they must have been refined and transmuted before they formed poems like the Iliad and Odyssey.
^ The Epic of Homer was doubtless formed originally from a spoken variety of Greek, but became literary and conventional with time.
.^ In this way there arose a conservative school who admitted more or less freely the absorption of pre-existing lays in the formation of the Iliad and Odyssey, and also the existence of considerable interpolations, but assigned the main work of formation to prehistoric times, and to the genius of a great poet.
^ When we are satisfied that each of the great Homeric poems is either wholly or mainly the work of a single poet, a question remains which has been matter of controversy in ancient as well as modern times - Are they the work of the same poet?
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
.^ Whether the two epics were by the same author remained an open question; the tendency of this group of scholars was decidedly towards separation.
^ This, then, is the plausible explanation of most of the brief Hymns—they were preludes to epic recitations—but the question as to the long narrative Hymns with which the collection opens is different.
.^ Regarding the use of writing, too, they were not unanimous.
^ In this case we have to consider not merely the indications of the poems, but also the external evidence which we possess regarding the use of writing in Greece.
K. O. Muller, for instance, maintained the view of
Wolf on this point, while he strenuously combated the inference
which Wolf drew from it.
.^ The Prolegomena bore on the title-page the words " Volumen I."; but no second volume ever appeared, nor was any attempt made by Wolf himself to carry his theory further.
^ In the second edition, of which the first volume appeared in 1878, he abandoned this theory.
^ The art with which these threads are woven together was recognized by Wolf himself, who admitted the difficulty of applying his theory to the " admirabilis summa et compages " of the poem.
.^ G. Hermann's dissertations De interpolationibus Homeri (1832) and De iteratis apud Homerum (1840) are reprinted in his Opuscula.
^ The first important steps in that direction were taken by Gottfried Hermann , chiefly in two dissertations, De interpolationibus Homeri (Leipzig, 1832), and De iteratis Homeri (Leipzig, 1840), called forth by the writings of Nitzsch.
^ The first considerable antagonist of the Wolfian school was G. W. Nitzsch, whose writings cover the years 1828-1862, and deal with every side of the controversy.
As the word "
interpolation "
implies, Hermann did not maintain the
hypothesis of a congeries of independent "
lays." Feeling the difficulty of supposing that all the ancient
minstrels sang of the " wrath of Achilles " or the " return of
Ulysses " (leaving out even the capture of Troy itself), he was led
to assume that two poems of no great
compass dealing with these two themes became so
famous at an
early period as to throw other
parts of the Trojan story into the background, and were then
enlarged by successive generations of rhapsodists.
.^ Some parts of the Iliad, moreover, seemed to him to be older than the poem on the wrath of Achilles; and thus in addition to the " Homeric " and " post-Homeric " matter he distinguished a pre-Homeric " element.
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^ We seem through him to obtain a glimpse of an early post-Homeric age in Ionia, when the immediate disciples and successors of Homer were distinct figures in a trustworthy tradition - when they had not yet merged their individuality in the legendary " Homer " of the Epic Cycle .
.^ The conjectures of Hermann, in which the Wolfian theory found a modified and tentative application, were presently thrown into the shade by the more trenchant method of Lachmann, who (in two papers read to the Berlin Academy in 1837 and 1841) sought to show that the Iliad was made up of sixteen independent " lays," with various enlargements and interpolations, all finally reduced to order by Peisistratus.
^ In this way there arose a conservative school who admitted more or less freely the absorption of pre-existing lays in the formation of the Iliad and Odyssey, and also the existence of considerable interpolations, but assigned the main work of formation to prehistoric times, and to the genius of a great poet.
^ The quotation from the Iliad is of interest because it is made in order to show that Homer supported the story of the travels of Paris to Egypt and Sidon (whereas the Cyclic poem called the Cypria ignored them), and also because the part of the Iliad from which it comes is cited as the " Aristeia of Diomede."
.^ The first book, for instance, consists of a lay on the anger of Achilles (1-347), and two continuations, the return of Chryseis (430-492) and the scenes in Olympus (348-429, 493611).
^ On the other hand, it may be said, the second book opens with a direct reference to the events of the first, and the mention of Achilles in the speech of Thersites (ii.
^ There was first of all a " Return of Odysseus," relating chiefly the adventures with the Cyclops, Calypso and the Phaeacians; then a continuation, the scene of which lay in Ithaca, embracing the bulk of books xiii.-xxiii.
.^ The second book forms a second lay, but several passages, among them the speech of Ulysses (278-332), are interpolated.
^ On the other hand, it may be said, the second book opens with a direct reference to the events of the first, and the mention of Achilles in the speech of Thersites (ii.
^ The passages in the second half of the Odyssey which describe the appearance of Ulysses do not give two wellmarked representations of him.
.^ In the third book the scenes in which Helen and Priam take part (including the making of the truce) are pronounced to be interpolations; and so on.
^ In the scene on the walls of Troy, in the third book of the Iliad, after Helen has pointed out Agamemnon, Ulysses and Ajax in answer to Priam's 1 " As a poet Homer must be acknowledged to excel Shakespeare in the truth, the harmony, the sustained grandeur, the satisfying completeness of his images " (Shelley, Essays, &c., i.
^ The truce of the third book is broken by Pandarus, and Agamemnon passes along the Greek ranks with words of encouragement, but without a hint of the treachery just committed.
.^ Regarding the evidence on which these sweeping results are founded, opinions will vary.
^ The result of these considerations seems to be that nothing rests on good evidence beyond the fact that Homer was recited by law at the Panathenaic festival.
The degree of smoothness or
consistency which is to be expected on the hypothesis of a single
author will be determined by taste rather than argument.
.^ The dissection of the first book, for instance, turns partly on a chronological inaccuracy which might well escape the poet as well as his hearers.
.^ In examining such points we are apt to forget that the contradictions by which a story is shown to be untrue are quite different from those by which a confessedly untrue story would be shown to be the work of different authors.
^ He concludes that the aged Ulysses belongs to the " continuation " (the change wrought by Athena's wand being a device to reconcile the two views), and hence that the continuation is the work of a different author.
^ He noticed especially the difference between the stories known to Homer and those given by later poets, and made many comparisons between Homeric and later manners, arts and institutions.
Structure of the Iliad
.^ The subject of the Iliad, as the first line proclaims, is the " anger of Achilles."
^ But in the Iliad the whole stress is laid on the anger of Achilles, which can only be satisfied by the defeat and extreme peril of the Greeks.'
.^ The manner in which this subject is worked out will appear from the following summary in which we distinguish (I) the plot, i.e.
.^ I. Quarrel of Achilles with Agamemnon and the Greek army - Agamemnon, having been compelled to give up his prize Chryseis, takes Briseis from Achilles - Thereupon Achilles appeals to his mother Thetis , who obtains from Zeus a promise that he will give victory to the Trojans until the Greeks pay due honour to her son - Meanwhile Achilles takes no part in the war.
^ It is Achilles himself who sings the stories of heroes (rcXEa av3p63 v7 in his tent , and Patroclus is waiting ( respondere paratus ), to take up the song in his turn ( Il.
^ The disposition of the Greeks to look to the west for the centres of religious feeling appears in the mention of Dodona and the Dodonaean Zeus , put in the mouth of the Thessalian Achilles.
.^ II. Agamemnon is persuaded by a dream sent from Zeus to take the field with all his forces.
^ XVI. Achilles is persuaded to allow Patroclus to take the field.
His attempt to test the
temper of the army nearly leads to their
return.
.^ Catalogue of the army (probably a later addition).
.^ Trojan muster - Trojan catalogue.
.^ III. Meeting of the Armies - Paris challenges Menelaus - Truce made.
^ The " quarrel of the chiefs," the " muster of the army," the " duel of Paris and Menelaus," &c., are excellent beginnings, but have no satisfying conclusion.
.^ Teichoscopy," Helen pointing out to Priam the Greek leaders.
^ The joy of Menelaus on seeing Paris, Priam's ignorance of the Greek leaders, the speeches of Agamemnon in his review of the ranks (in book iv.
.^ The duel - Paris is saved by Aphrodite.
.^ IV. Truce broken by Pandarus .
^ The truce of the third book is broken by Pandarus, and Agamemnon passes along the Greek ranks with words of encouragement, but without a hint of the treachery just committed.
.^ Advance of the armies - Battle.
.^ V. Aristeia of Diomede - his combat with Aphrodite VI. - Meeting with Glaucus - Visit of Hector to the (I-31 I) city, and offering of a peplus to Athena .
.^ Visit of Hector to Paris - to Andromache .
.^ VII. Return of Hector and Paris to the field.
.^ Duel of Ajax and Hector.
.^ Truce for burial of dead.
.^ The Greeks build a wall round their camp.
.^ VIII. Battle - The Trojans encamp on the field.
.^ IX. Agamemnon sends an embassy by night, offering Achilles restitution and full amends - Achilles refuses.
.^ X. Doloneia - Night expedition of Odysseus and Diomede (in all probability added later).
.^ Moreover, three of the chief heroes, Agamemnon, Diomede and Ulysses, are wounded, and this circumstance, as Lachmann himself admitted, is steadily kept in mind throughout.
^ XI. Aristeia of Agamemnon - he is wounded - Wounding of Diomede and Odysseus.
.^ Achilles sends Antilochus to inquire about Machaon.
.^ XI I. Storming of the wall - the Trojans reach the ships.
XIII. Zeus ceases to
watch
the field -
Poseidon
secretly comes to the aid of the Greeks.
.^ XIV. Sleep of Zeus, by the contrivance of Hera .
.^ XV. Zeus awakened - Restores the advantage to the Trojans - Ajax alone defends the ships.
.^ XVI. Achilles is persuaded to allow Patroclus to take the field.
^ II. Agamemnon is persuaded by a dream sent from Zeus to take the field with all his forces.
Patroclus drives back the Trojans - kills
Sarpedon - is himself killed by Hector.
.^ XVII. Battle for the body of Patroclus - Aristeia of Menelaus.
.^ XVIII. News of the death of Patroclus is brought to Achilles - Thetis comes with the Nereids - promises to obtain new armour for him from Hephaestus .
^ Persephone is the Goddess of Death, yet with a promise of life to come.” .
.^ The shield of Achilles described.
.^ XIX. Reconciliation of Achilles - His grief and desire to avenge Patroclus.
.^ XX. The gods come down to the plain - Combat of Achilles with Aeneas and Hector, who escape.
.^ XXI. The Scamander is choked with slain - rises against Achilles, who is saved by Hephaestus.
^ XXII. Hector alone stands against Achilles - his flight round the walls - he is slain.
.^ XXII. Hector alone stands against Achilles - his flight round the walls - he is slain.
^ XXI. The Scamander is choked with slain - rises against Achilles, who is saved by Hephaestus.
.^ XXIII. Burial of Patroclus - Funeral games.
.^ XXIV. Priam ransoms the body of Hector - his burial.
.^ Such is the " action " (7rpa cs) which in Aristotle's opinion showed the superiority of Homer to all later epic poets.
^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
^ The result of Welcker's labours was to show that the Homeric poems had influenced both the form and the substance of epic poetry.
.^ But the proof that his scheme was the work of a great poet does not depend merely upon the artistic unity which excited the wonder of Aristotle.
.^ A number of separate " lays " might conceivably be arranged and connected by a man of poetical taste in a manner that would satisfy all requirements.
.^ In such a case, however, the connecting passages would be slight and weak.
.^ Now, in the Iliad these passages are the finest and most characteristic.
.^ The element of connexion and unity is the story of the " wrath of Achilles "; and we have only to look at the books which give the story of the wrath to see how essential they are.
^ These new elements in the narrative are evidently due not only to the natural growth of legend in a people highly endowed with imagination, but in a large proportion also to the new 1 See D. B. Monro's Homer's Odyssey, books xiii.
^ The only passage which can be interpreted as a reference to writing occurs in the story of Bellerophon , told by Glaucus in the sixth book of the Iliad.
.^ Even if the ninth book is rejected (as Grote proposed), there remain the speeches of the first, sixteenth and nineteenth books.
^ On the other hand, it may be said, the second book opens with a direct reference to the events of the first, and the mention of Achilles in the speech of Thersites (ii.
^ The ninth book, on the other hand, was rejected by Grote, chiefly on the grounds that the embassy to Achilles ought to have put an end to the quarrel, and that it is ignored in later passages, especially in the speeches of Achilles (xi.
.^ These speeches form the cardinal points in the action of the Iliad - the framework into which everything else is set; and they have also the best title to the name of Homer.
^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
^ But between these lays and Homer we must place the cultivation of epic poetry as an art.2 The pre-Homeric lays doubtless furnished the elements of such a poetry - the alphabet, so to speak, of the art; but they must have been refined and transmuted before they formed poems like the Iliad and Odyssey.
.^ It must be admitted that when tried by this test his " lays " generally fail.
^ The further question, however, remains, What shorter narrative piece fulfilling the conditions of an independent poem has Lachmann succeeded in disengaging from the existing Iliad?
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
.^ The " quarrel of the chiefs," the " muster of the army," the " duel of Paris and Menelaus," &c., are excellent beginnings, but have no satisfying conclusion.
^ The chief incidents in that part of the poem - the panic rush to the ships, the duels of Paris and Menelaus, and of Hector and Ajax, the Aristeia of Diomede - stand in no relation to the mainspring of the poem, the promise made by Zeus to Thetis.
^ III. Meeting of the Armies - Paris challenges Menelaus - Truce made.
.^ And the reason is not far to seek.
.^ The Iliad is not a history, nor is it a series of incidents in the history, of the siege.
.^ It turns entirely upon a single incident, occupying a few days only.
.^ The several episodes of the poem are not so many distinct stories, each with an interest of its own.
.^ They are only parts of a single main event.
.^ Consequently the type of epic poem which would be produced by an aggregation of shorter lays is not the type which we have in the Iliad.
^ Rather the Iliad is itself a single lay which has grown with the growth of poetical art to the dimensions of an epic.
^ A number of separate " lays " might conceivably be arranged and connected by a man of poetical taste in a manner that would satisfy all requirements.
.^ But the original nucleus and parts of the incidents may be the work of a single great poet, and yet other episodes may be of different authorship, wrought into the structure of the poem in later times.
^ When we are satisfied that each of the great Homeric poems is either wholly or mainly the work of a single poet, a question remains which has been matter of controversy in ancient as well as modern times - Are they the work of the same poet?
^ It was necessary, of course, to divide the poem to be recited into parts, and to compel each contending rhapsodist to take the part assigned to him.
.^ Various theories have been based on this supposition.
.^ It is otherwise with the earlier books (especially ii.-vii.
^ Grote in particular held that the original poem, which he called the Achilleis, did not include books ii.-vii., ix., x., xxiii., xxiv.
^ It is true that in the thirteenth and fourteenth books the purpose of Zeus is thwarted for a time by other, gods; but in books ii.-vii.
.^ Such a view may be defended somewhat as follows.
.^ Of the books which relate the events during the absence of Achilles from the Greek ranks (ii.-xv.
^ The truce of the third book is broken by Pandarus, and Agamemnon passes along the Greek ranks with words of encouragement, but without a hint of the treachery just committed.
^ The joy of Menelaus on seeing Paris, Priam's ignorance of the Greek leaders, the speeches of Agamemnon in his review of the ranks (in book iv.
), the last five are directly
related to the main action.
.^ They describe the successive steps by which the Greeks are driven back, first from the plain to the rampart, then to their ships.
.^ Moreover, three of the chief heroes, Agamemnon, Diomede and Ulysses, are wounded, and this circumstance, as Lachmann himself admitted, is steadily kept in mind throughout.
^ XI. Aristeia of Agamemnon - he is wounded - Wounding of Diomede and Odysseus.
.^ It is otherwise with the earlier books (especially ii.-vii.
^ It is true that in the thirteenth and fourteenth books the purpose of Zeus is thwarted for a time by other, gods; but in books ii.-vii.
^ Grote in particular held that the original poem, which he called the Achilleis, did not include books ii.-vii., ix., x., xxiii., xxiv.
).
.^ The chief incidents in that part of the poem - the panic rush to the ships, the duels of Paris and Menelaus, and of Hector and Ajax, the Aristeia of Diomede - stand in no relation to the mainspring of the poem, the promise made by Zeus to Thetis.
^ I. Quarrel of Achilles with Agamemnon and the Greek army - Agamemnon, having been compelled to give up his prize Chryseis, takes Briseis from Achilles - Thereupon Achilles appeals to his mother Thetis , who obtains from Zeus a promise that he will give victory to the Trojans until the Greeks pay due honour to her son - Meanwhile Achilles takes no part in the war.
^ The quotation from the Iliad is of interest because it is made in order to show that Homer supported the story of the travels of Paris to Egypt and Sidon (whereas the Cyclic poem called the Cypria ignored them), and also because the part of the Iliad from which it comes is cited as the " Aristeia of Diomede."
.^ It is true that in the thirteenth and fourteenth books the purpose of Zeus is thwarted for a time by other, gods; but in books ii.-vii.
^ Myself did make pledge, and promise, and strong oath, that, save me, none other of the eternal Gods should know the secret counsel of Zeus.
^ It is otherwise with the earlier books (especially ii.-vii.
it is not so much thwarted as ignored.
.^ Further, the events follow without sufficient connexion.
.^ The truce of the third book is broken by Pandarus, and Agamemnon passes along the Greek ranks with words of encouragement, but without a hint of the treachery just committed.
^ IV. Truce broken by Pandarus .
^ Of the books which relate the events during the absence of Achilles from the Greek ranks (ii.-xv.
.^ The Aristeia of Diomede ends in the middle of the sixth book; he is uppermost in all thoughts down to ver.
.^ Hector with Helen and Andromache, and again in the seventh book when Hector challenges the Greek chiefs, his prowess is forgotten.
^ And when in the third book Priam asks Helen about the Greek captains, or when in the seventh book nine champions come forward to contend with Hector, the want of the greatest hero of all is sufficiently felt.
^ Teichoscopy," Helen pointing out to Priam the Greek leaders.
.^ Once more, some of the incidents seem to belong properly to the beginning of the war.
^ And if some of the incidents (those of the third book in particular) seem to belong to the beginning of the war, it must be considered that poetically, and to the hearers of the Iliad, the war opens in the third book, and the incidents are of the kind that is required in such a place.
.^ The joy of Menelaus on seeing Paris, Priam's ignorance of the Greek leaders, the speeches of Agamemnon in his review of the ranks (in book iv.
^ The truce of the third book is broken by Pandarus, and Agamemnon passes along the Greek ranks with words of encouragement, but without a hint of the treachery just committed.
^ Teichoscopy," Helen pointing out to Priam the Greek leaders.
), the building
of the wall - all these are in place after the Greek landing, but
hardly in the ninth year of the siege.
.^ On the other hand, it may be said, the second book opens with a direct reference to the events of the first, and the mention of Achilles in the speech of Thersites (ii.
^ Even if the ninth book is rejected (as Grote proposed), there remain the speeches of the first, sixteenth and nineteenth books.
^ The ninth book, on the other hand, was rejected by Grote, chiefly on the grounds that the embassy to Achilles ought to have put an end to the quarrel, and that it is ignored in later passages, especially in the speeches of Achilles (xi.
239 sqq.) is sufficient to
keep the main course of events in view.
.^ The Catalogue is connected with its place in the poem by the lines about Achilles (686-694).
^ About that period Terpander is said to have given the lyre seven strings (as Mercury does in the poem), in place of the previous four strings.
.^ When Diomede is at the height of his Aristeia Helenus says ( Il.
^ V. Aristeia of Diomede - his combat with Aphrodite VI. - Meeting with Glaucus - Visit of Hector to the (I-31 I) city, and offering of a peplus to Athena .
.^ We did not so fear even Achilles."
.^ Hector with Helen and Andromache, and again in the seventh book when Hector challenges the Greek chiefs, his prowess is forgotten.
^ And when in the third book Priam asks Helen about the Greek captains, or when in the seventh book nine champions come forward to contend with Hector, the want of the greatest hero of all is sufficiently felt.
^ The truce of the third book is broken by Pandarus, and Agamemnon passes along the Greek ranks with words of encouragement, but without a hint of the treachery just committed.
.^ If these passages do not belong to the period of the wrath of Achilles, how are we to account for his conspicuous absence ?
^ The element of connexion and unity is the story of the " wrath of Achilles "; and we have only to look at the books which give the story of the wrath to see how essential they are.
.^ Further, the want of smoothness and unity which is visible in this part of the Iliad may be due to other causes than difference of date or authorship.
^ If we may judge by line 51, and if Greek musical tradition be correct, the date of the Hymn cannot be earlier than the fortieth Olympiad.
^ (I may refer to my work, “Homer and the Epic,” for a defence of the unity of Iliad and Odyssey.
.^ A national poet such as the author of the Iliad cannot always choose or arrange his matter at his own will.
.^ He is bound by the traditions of his art, and by the feelings and expectations of his hearers.
.^ The poet who brought the exploits of Diomede into the Iliad doubtless had his reasons for doing so, which were equally strong whether he was the poet of the AchilleIs or a later Homerid or rhapsodist.
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
.^ And if some of the incidents (those of the third book in particular) seem to belong to the beginning of the war, it must be considered that poetically, and to the hearers of the Iliad, the war opens in the third book, and the incidents are of the kind that is required in such a place.
^ Once more, some of the incidents seem to belong properly to the beginning of the war.
^ The song is on a subject taken from the Trojan war, at some point chosen by the singer himself, or by his hearers.
.^ The truce makes a pause which heightens the interest of the impending battle; the duel and the scene on the walls are effective in bringing some of the leading characters on the stage, and in making us acquainted with the previous history.
^ In the third book the scenes in which Helen and Priam take part (including the making of the truce) are pronounced to be interpolations; and so on.
.^ The story of Paris and Helen especially, and the general position of affairs in Troy, is put before us in a singularly vivid manner.
^ He noticed especially the difference between the stories known to Homer and those given by later poets, and made many comparisons between Homeric and later manners, arts and institutions.
^ Castor and Polydeuces, for instance, are simply brothers of Helen who died before the expedition to Troy ( Il.
.^ The case against the remaining books is of a different kind.
^ The book in short forms so good a prologue to the action of the war that we can hardly be wrong in attributing it to the genius which devised the rest of the Iliad.
^ And if some of the incidents (those of the third book in particular) seem to belong to the beginning of the war, it must be considered that poetically, and to the hearers of the Iliad, the war opens in the third book, and the incidents are of the kind that is required in such a place.
.^ The ninth and tenth seem like two independent pictures of the night before the great battle of xi.-xvii.
^ The Odyssey gives us pictures of two great houses, and each has its singer.
.^ Either is enough to fill the space in Homer's canvas ; and the suspicion arises (as when two Platonic dialogues bear the same name) that if either had been genuine, the other would not have come into existence.
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^ Achaeans , Argives, Danai, we find Hellenes, subdivided into Dorians , Ionians, Aeolians - names either unknown to Homer, or mentioned in terms more significant than silence.
.^ If one of the two is to be rejected it must be the tenth, which is certainly the less Homeric.
^ Yet Arctinus of Miletus was said to have been a " disciple of Homer," and was certainly one of the earliest and most considerable of the " Cyclic " poets.
^ In general, however, these are older forms, which must have existed in Ionic at one time, and may very well have belonged to the Ionic of Homer's time.
.^ It relates a picturesque adventure, conceived in a vein more approaching that of comedy than any other part of the Iliad.
^ Moreover, the language in several places exhibits traces of post-Homeric date.
^ Further, the want of smoothness and unity which is visible in this part of the Iliad may be due to other causes than difference of date or authorship.
The ninth book, on the other hand, was
rejected by Grote, chiefly on the grounds that the embassy to
Achilles ought to have put an end to the quarrel, and that it is
ignored in later passages, especially in the speeches of Achilles
(xi. 609; xvi. 72, 85).
.^ His argument, however, rests on an assumption which we are apt to bring with us to the reading of the Iliad, but which is not borne out by its language, viz.
that there was some definite
atonement demanded by Achilles, or due to him
according to the custom and sentiment of the time.
.^ But in the Iliad the whole stress is laid on the anger of Achilles, which can only be satisfied by the defeat and extreme peril of the Greeks.'
^ The subject of the Iliad, as the first line proclaims, is the " anger of Achilles."
.^ He is influenced by his own feeling, and by nothing else.
.^ Accordingly, in ' the ninth book, when they are still protected by the rampart (see 348 sqq.
^ The element of connexion and unity is the story of the " wrath of Achilles "; and we have only to look at the books which give the story of the wrath to see how essential they are.
), he rejects gifts and fair words alike;
in the sixteenth he is moved by the tears and, of
.^ Patroclus, and the sight of the Greek ships on fire; in the nineteenth his anger is quenched in grief.
.^ But he makes no conditions, either in rejecting the offers of the embassy or in returning to the Greek army.
.^ And this conduct is the result, not only of his fierce and inexorable character, but also (as the silence of Homer shows) of the want of any general rules or principles, any code of morality or of honour, which would have required him to act in a different way.
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^ The result of Welcker's labours was to show that the Homeric poems had influenced both the form and the substance of epic poetry.
.^ Finally, Grote objected to the two last books that they prolong the action of the Iliad beyond the exigencies of a coherent scheme.
^ These speeches form the cardinal points in the action of the Iliad - the framework into which everything else is set; and they have also the best title to the name of Homer.
^ The book in short forms so good a prologue to the action of the war that we can hardly be wrong in attributing it to the genius which devised the rest of the Iliad.
.^ Of the two, the twenty-third could more easily be spared.
.^ In language, and perhaps in style and manner, it is akin to the tenth; while the twenty-fourth is in the pathetic vein of the ninth, and like it serves to bring out new aspects of the character of Achilles.
^ His argument, however, rests on an assumption which we are apt to bring with us to the reading of the Iliad, but which is not borne out by its language, viz.
^ The ninth and tenth seem like two independent pictures of the night before the great battle of xi.-xvii.
.^ Dr E. Kammer has given some strong reasons for doubting the genuineness of the passage in book xx.
^ A full discussion of this book is given by Dr E. Kammer, Die Einheit der Odyssee (Leipzig, 1873).
describing the duel between
.^ Achilles and Aeneas (79-352).
.^ VII. Return of Hector and Paris to the field.
^ The incident is certainly very much out of keeping with the vehement action of that part of the poem, and especially with the moment when Achilles returns to the field, eager to meet Hector and avenge the death of his friend.
^ The chief incidents in that part of the poem - the panic rush to the ships, the duels of Paris and Menelaus, and of Hector and Ajax, the Aristeia of Diomede - stand in no relation to the mainspring of the poem, the promise made by Zeus to Thetis.
.^ The interpolation (if it is one) is probably due to local interests.
.^ It contains the well-known prophecy that the descendants of Aeneas are to rule over the Trojans, - pointing to the existence of an Aenead dynasty in the Troad.
^ The celebrated prophecy of the future rule of the children of Æneas over the Trojans (Υ.
.^ So, too, the legend of Anchises in the Hymn to Aphrodite is evidently local; and Aeneas becomes more prominent in the later epics, especially the Cypria and the 'IAiou - of Arctinus.
^ Why have the works of Arctinus escaped the attraction which drew to the name of Homer such epics as the Cypria, the Little Iliad, the Thebaid, the Epigoni, the Taking of Oechalia and the Phocais.
^ The latter of these may evidently be taken to belong to Salamis in Cyprus and the festival of the Cyprian Aphrodite, in the same way that the Hymn to Apollo belongs to Delos and the Delian gathering.
Structure of the Odyssey
.^ In the Odyssey, as in the Iliad, the events related fall within a short space of time.
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
^ Again, the Trojan legend has itself received some extension between the time of the Iliad and that of the Odyssey.
.^ The difficulty of adapting the long wanderings of Ulysses to a plan of this type is got over by the device - first met with in the Odyssey - of making the hero tell the story of his own adventures.
^ Is it after merchandise, or do ye wander at adventure, over the salt sea, as sea-robbers use, that roam staking their own lives, and bearing bane to men of strange speech?
^ The Greeks, therefore, may have evolved the legend long before Homer’s day, and he may have known the story which he does not find occasion to tell.
.^ In this way the action is made to begin almost immediately before the actual return of Ulysses.
^ The question then is - How long must the name of Ulysses have been familiar in the legend ( Sage ) of Troy before it made its way into the tales of giants and ogres ( Mdrehen ), where the poet of the Odyssey found it ?
.^ Up to the time when he reaches Ithaca it moves on three distinct scenes: we follow the fortunes of Ulysses, of Telemachus on his voyage in the Peloponnesus, and of Penelope with the suitors.
.^ The art with which these threads are woven together was recognized by Wolf himself, who admitted the difficulty of applying his theory to the " admirabilis summa et compages " of the poem.
^ Ce qui a fait naitre la theorie des chants ` lyrico-epiques ' ou des cantilenes, c'est le systeme de Wolf sur les poemes homeriques, et de Lachmann sur les Nibelungen.
^ The Prolegomena bore on the title-page the words " Volumen I."; but no second volume ever appeared, nor was any attempt made by Wolf himself to carry his theory further.
.^ Of the comparatively few attempts which have been made to dissect the Odyssey, the most moderate and attractive is that of Professor A. Kirchhoff of Berlin.2 According to Kirchhoff, the Odyssey as we have it is the result of additions made to an original nucleus.
.^ There was first of all a " Return of Odysseus," relating chiefly the adventures with the Cyclops, Calypso and the Phaeacians; then a continuation, the scene of which lay in Ithaca, embracing the bulk of books xiii.-xxiii.
^ The first book, for instance, consists of a lay on the anger of Achilles (1-347), and two continuations, the return of Chryseis (430-492) and the scenes in Olympus (348-429, 493611).
^ But anon strange matters appeared to them: first there flowed through all the swift black ship a sweet and fragrant wine, and the p.
.^ The poem so formed was enlarged at some time between 01.30 and 01.50 by the stories of books x.-xii.
^ He points out some resemblances between these three books and the Argonautic fables, among them the circumstance that a fountain Artacia occurs in both.
^ Again, the Trojan legend has itself received some extension between the time of the Iliad and that of the Odyssey.
.^ (Circe, the Sirens , Scylla, &c.
), and
the adventures of Telemachus.
.^ Lastly, a few passages were interpolated in the time of Peisistratus.
.^ The proof that the scenes in Ithaca are by a later hand than the ancient " Return " is found chiefly in a contradiction discussed by Kirchhoff in his sixth dissertation (pp.
^ There was first of all a " Return of Odysseus," relating chiefly the adventures with the Cyclops, Calypso and the Phaeacians; then a continuation, the scene of which lay in Ithaca, embracing the bulk of books xiii.-xxiii.
135 sqq., ed. 1869).
.^ Sometimes Ulysses is represented as aged and worn by toil, so that Penelope, for instance, cannot recognize him; sometimes he is really in the prime of heroic vigour, and his appearing as a beggarly old man is the work of Athena's wand.
^ Then to him the old man spake and answered: .
^ Sometimes Athena disguises him as a decrepit beggar , sometimes she bestows on him supernatural beauty and vigour.
.^ The first of these representations is evidently natural, considering the twenty eventful years that have passed; but the second, Kirchhoff holds, is the Ulysses of Calypso's 1 On this point see a paper by Professor Packard in the Trans.
^ On the other hand, it may be said, the second book opens with a direct reference to the events of the first, and the mention of Achilles in the speech of Thersites (ii.
^ These new elements in the narrative are evidently due not only to the natural growth of legend in a people highly endowed with imagination, but in a large proportion also to the new 1 See D. B. Monro's Homer's Odyssey, books xiii.
of the
.^ American Philological Association (1876).
.^ Die Composition der Odyssee (Berlin, 1869).
^ Fick: Die homerische Odyssee in der urspriinglichen Sprachform wiederhergestelt (Göttingen, 1883); Die homerische Ilias (ibid., 1886); W. Schulze, Quaestiones epicae (GUterslohe, 1892).
^ A full discussion of this book is given by Dr E. Kammer, Die Einheit der Odyssee (Leipzig, 1873).
.^ A full discussion of this book is given by Dr E. Kammer, Die Einheit der Odyssee (Leipzig, 1873).
^ Fick: Die homerische Odyssee in der urspriinglichen Sprachform wiederhergestelt (Göttingen, 1883); Die homerische Ilias (ibid., 1886); W. Schulze, Quaestiones epicae (GUterslohe, 1892).
^ Die Composition der Odyssee (Berlin, 1869).
island and the Phaeacian court.
.^ He concludes that the aged Ulysses belongs to the " continuation " (the change wrought by Athena's wand being a device to reconcile the two views), and hence that the continuation is the work of a different author.
^ In examining such points we are apt to forget that the contradictions by which a story is shown to be untrue are quite different from those by which a confessedly untrue story would be shown to be the work of different authors.
^ Sometimes Ulysses is represented as aged and worn by toil, so that Penelope, for instance, cannot recognize him; sometimes he is really in the prime of heroic vigour, and his appearing as a beggarly old man is the work of Athena's wand.
.^ Ingenious as this is, there is really very slender ground for Kirchhoff's thesis.
The passages in the second half of the
Odyssey which describe the appearance of Ulysses do not
give
two wellmarked representations of him.
.^ Sometimes Athena disguises him as a decrepit beggar , sometimes she bestows on him supernatural beauty and vigour.
^ Sometimes Ulysses is represented as aged and worn by toil, so that Penelope, for instance, cannot recognize him; sometimes he is really in the prime of heroic vigour, and his appearing as a beggarly old man is the work of Athena's wand.
.^ It must be admitted that we are not told exactly how long in each case the effect of these changes lasted.
.^ But neither answers to his natural appearance, or to the appearance which he is imagined to present in the earlier books.
.^ In the palace of Alcinous, for instance, it is noticed that he is vigorous but " marred by many ills " ( Od.
137); and
this agrees with the scenes of recognition in the latter part of
the poem.
.^ The arguments by which Kirchhoff seeks to prove that the stories of books x.-xii.
^ The poem so formed was enlarged at some time between 01.30 and 01.50 by the stories of books x.-xii.
^ Finally, when Kirchhoff finds traces in books x.-xii.
are much later than those of book ix. are not more
convincing.
.^ He points out some resemblances between these three books and the Argonautic fables, among them the circumstance that a fountain Artacia occurs in both.
^ The poem so formed was enlarged at some time between 01.30 and 01.50 by the stories of books x.-xii.
^ Both these books were translated into German, and their ideas passed into the popular philosophy of the day.
.^ In the Argonautic story this fountain is placed in the neighbourhood of Cyzicus , and answers to an actual fountain known in historical times.
^ Or it may be that the Artacia of the Odyssey suggested the name to the colonists of Cyzicus, whence it was adopted into the later versions of the Argonautic story.
.^ Kirchhoff argues that the Artacia of the Argonautic story must have been taken from the real Artacia, and the Artacia of the Odyssey again from that of the Argonautic story.
^ Thus the successive episodes of the siege related at length in the Little Iliad, and ending with the story of the Wooden Horse, are nearly all taken from passages in the Odyssey.
^ Or it may be that the Artacia of the Odyssey suggested the name to the colonists of Cyzicus, whence it was adopted into the later versions of the Argonautic story.
.^ And as Cyzicus was settled from Miletus, he infers that both sets of stories must be comparatively late.
.^ It is more probable, surely, that the name Artacia occurred independently (as most geographical names are found to occur) in more than one place.
^ They are, therefore, set over various departments: Love, War, Agriculture, Medicine, Poetry, Commerce, while one or more of the sons take the places of Apollo and Hermes.
^ No new second aorists, we may be sure, were formed any more than new " strong " tenses, such as came or sang, can be formed in English.
.^ The method of translation is that adopted by Professor Butcher and myself in the Odyssey, and by me in a version of Theocritus, as well as by Mr. Ernest Myers, who preceded us, in his Pindar.
.^ The further argument that the Nostoi recognized a son of Calypso by Ulysses but no son of Circe , consequently that Circe was unknown to the poet of the Nostoi, rests (in the first place) upon a conjectural alteration of a passage in Eustathius, and, moreover, has all the weakness of an argument from silence, in addition to the uncertainty arising from our very slight knowledge of the author whose silence is in question.
^ Yet it rests upon no better evidence than the other.
^ The author makes (perhaps wilfully) all the mistakes about the family of Peisistratus which Thucydides notices in a well-known passage (vi.
.^ Finally, when Kirchhoff finds traces in books x.-xii.
^ The arguments by which Kirchhoff seeks to prove that the stories of books x.-xii.
of their
having been originally told by the poet himself instead of being
put in the mouth of his hero, we feel that inaccuracies of this
kind are apt to creep in wherever a fictitious story is thrown into
the form of an autobiography.
.^ Inquiries conducted with the refinement which characterizes those of Kirchhoff are always instructive, and his book contains very many just observations; but it is impossible to admit his main conclusions.
.^ And perhaps we may infer that no similar attempt can be more successful.
^ No new second aorists, we may be sure, were formed any more than new " strong " tenses, such as came or sang, can be formed in English.
.^ It does not indeed follow that the Odyssey is free from interpolations.
The of book xi. may
be later
.^ Lauer maintained), or it may contain additions, which could easily be inserted in a description of the kind.
.^ And the last book is probably by a different hand, as the ancient critics believed.
But the unity of the
Odyssey as a whole is
apparently beyond the reach of the existing weapons of
criticism.
.^ When we are satisfied that each of the great Homeric poems is either wholly or mainly the work of a single poet, a question remains which has been matter of controversy in ancient as well as modern times - Are they the work of the same poet?
^ The Margites - a humorous poem which kept its ground as the reputed work of Homer down to the time of Aristotle - began with the words, " There came to Colophon an old man, a divine singer, servant of the Muses and Apollo."
^ These were the " ancient Homerics " (01 apXaEoe `O,unpuccl ), who busied themselves much with the hidden meanings of Homer; of whom Aristotle says, with his profound insight, that they see the small likenesses and overlook the great ones ( Metaph.
.^ Two ancient grammarians, Xeno and Hellanicus, were known as the " separators " (oi xcop4"ov-res); and Aristarchus appears to have written a treatise against their heresy .
.^ In modern times some of the greatest names have been on the side of the " Chorizontes."
.^ If, as has been maintained in the preceding pages, the external evidence regarding Homer is of no value, the problem now before us may be stated in this form: Given two poems of which nothing is known except that they are of the same school of poetry, what is the probability that they are by the same author?
^ Let us now compare these data with the account given in the Homeric poems.
^ Of the date of Homer probably no record, real or pretended, ever existed.
.^ We may find a fair parallel by imagining two plays drawn at hazard from the works of the great tragic writers.
.^ It is -evident that the burden of proof would rest with those who held them to be by the same hand.
.^ The arguments used in this discussion have been of very various calibre.
The ancient Chorizontes observed that the messenger of
Zeus is
Iris in the
Iliad, but
Hermes in
the
Odyssey; that the wife of Hephaestus is one of the
Charites in the
Iliad, but Aphrodite in the
Odyssey; that the heroes in the
Iliad do not eat
fish; that Crete has a hundred
cities according to the
Iliad, and only ninety according
to the
Odyssey; that
7rpoirapotOe is used in the
Iliad of place, in the
Odyssey of time, &c.
.^ Modern scholars have added to the list, especially by making careful comparisons of the two poems in respect of vocabulary and grammatical forms.
^ This is of two main kinds: (a) evidence of history, consisting in a comparison of the political and social condition, the geography , the institutions, the manners, arts and ideas of Homer with those of other times; ( b ) evidence of language, consisting in a comparison with later dialects, in respect of grammar and vocabulary.
^ The difference of subject between the two poems is so great that it leads to the most striking differences of detail, especially in the vocabulary.
.^ Than such a faith (for faith it is) religion has nothing better to give.
The difference of
subject between the two poems is so great that it leads to the most
striking differences of detail, especially in the vocabulary.
.^ As there is no law in Homer, so there is no morality.
^ Once more, the word aKOTos, " darkness," occurs fourteen times in the Iliad, once in the Odyssey.
^ Again, the verb p7)yvvp., " to break," occurs forty-eight times in the Iliad, and once in the Odyssey, - the reason being that it is constantly used of breaking the armour of an enemy, the gate of a city, the hostile ranks, &c.
.^ Once more, the word aKOTos, " darkness," occurs fourteen times in the Iliad, once in the Odyssey.
^ But in every one of the fourteen places it is used of " darkness " coming over the sight of a fallen warrior.
^ The ancient Chorizontes observed that the messenger of Zeus is Iris in the Iliad, but Hermes in the Odyssey; that the wife of Hephaestus is one of the Charites in the Iliad, but Aphrodite in the Odyssey; that the heroes in the Iliad do not eat fish ; that Crete has a hundred cities according to the Iliad, and only ninety according to the Odyssey; that 7rpoirapotOe is used in the Iliad of place, in the Odyssey of time, &c.
.^ On the other side, if words such as &aµcvOos, " a bath ," XEpvc 1 G, " a basin for the hands," XEaxn, " a place to meet and talk," &c., are peculiar to the Odyssey, we have only to remember that the scene in the Iliad is hardly ever laid within any walls except those of a tent.
^ The singer, too, who is so prominent a figure in the Odyssey can hardly be thought to be absent from the Iliad merely because the scene is laid in a camp.
^ The story of the Wooden Horse is not only unknown to the Iliad, but is of a kind which we can hardly imagine the poet of the Iliad admitting.
.^ These examples will show that mere statistics of the occurrence of words prove little, and that we must begin by looking to the subject and character of each poem.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
^ His Aethiopis was composed as a sequel to the Iliad; and the structure and general character of his poems show that he took the Iliad as his model.
.^ When we do so, we at once find ourselves in the presence of differences of the broadest kind.
.^ The Iliad is much more historical in tone and character.
^ The further question, whether the Iliad and Odyssey were originally written, is much more difficult.
.^ The scene of the poem is a real place, and the poet sings (as Ulysses says of Demodocus) as though he had been present himself, or had heard from one who had been.
^ The art with which these threads are woven together was recognized by Wolf himself, who admitted the difficulty of applying his theory to the " admirabilis summa et compages " of the poem.
^ Some may be fragments of longer poems, but evidently they are not the work of any one poet.
.^ The supernatural element is confined to an interference of the gods, which to the common eye hardly disturbs the natural current of affairs.
.^ The Odyssey, on the contrary, is full of the magical and romantic - " speciosa miracula," as Horace called them.
.^ Moreover, these marvels - which in their original form are doubtless as old as anything in the Iliad, since in fact they are part of the vast stock of popular tales ( Mdrehen ) diffused all over the world - are mixed up in the Odyssey with the heroes of the Trojan war.
^ So they were apt to form a theory of an Egyptian origin of Dionysus and Demeter.
^ But between these lays and Homer we must place the cultivation of epic poetry as an art.2 The pre-Homeric lays doubtless furnished the elements of such a poetry - the alphabet, so to speak, of the art; but they must have been refined and transmuted before they formed poems like the Iliad and Odyssey.
.^ This has been especially noticed in the case of the story of Polyphemus , one that is found in many countries, and in versions which cannot all be derived from Homer.
^ There are doubtless many Homeric forms which were unknown to the later Ionic and Attic, and which are found in Aeolic or other dialects.
^ He noticed especially the difference between the stories known to Homer and those given by later poets, and made many comparisons between Homeric and later manners, arts and institutions.
.^ W. Grimm has pointed out that the behaviour of Ulysses in that story is senseless and foolhardy, utterly beneath the wise and much-enduring Ulysses of the Trojan war.
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
^ The song is on a subject taken from the Trojan war, at some point chosen by the singer himself, or by his hearers.
.^ The reason is simple; he is not the Ulysses of the Trojan war, but a being of the same world as Polyphemus himself - the world of giants and ogres.
^ W. Grimm has pointed out that the behaviour of Ulysses in that story is senseless and foolhardy, utterly beneath the wise and much-enduring Ulysses of the Trojan war.
^ The song is on a subject taken from the Trojan war, at some point chosen by the singer himself, or by his hearers.
.^ The question then is - How long must the name of Ulysses have been familiar in the legend ( Sage ) of Troy before it made its way into the tales of giants and ogres ( Mdrehen ), where the poet of the Odyssey found it ?
^ It must be admitted that we are not told exactly how long in each case the effect of these changes lasted.
^ In it Peisistratus is made to say of himself that he "collected Homer, who was formerly sung in fragments, for the golden poet was a citizen of ours, since we Athenians founded Smyrna."
.^ Again, the Trojan legend has itself received some extension between the time of the Iliad and that of the Odyssey.
^ The story of the Wooden Horse is not only unknown to the Iliad, but is of a kind which we can hardly imagine the poet of the Iliad admitting.
^ In this way there arose a conservative school who admitted more or less freely the absorption of pre-existing lays in the formation of the Iliad and Odyssey, and also the existence of considerable interpolations, but assigned the main work of formation to prehistoric times, and to the genius of a great poet.
.^ The part taken by Neoptolemus seems also to be a later addition.
.^ The tendency to amplify and complete the story shows itself still more in the Cyclic poets.
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
.^ Between the Iliad and these poets the Odyssey often occupies an intermediate position.
^ The later poets sought to complete the story of the Trojan war by supplying the parts which did not fall within the Iliad and Odyssey - the so-called ante-homerica and post-homerica.
^ These facts point to a familiarity with the Greek colonies in Asia which contrasts strongly with the silence of the Iliad and Odyssey.
This great and significant change in the treatment of the heroic
legends is ac..0 npanied by numerous minor differences (such as the
ancients remarked) in belief, in manners and institutions, and in
language.
.^ These differences bear out the inference that the Odyssey is of a later age.
The progress of reflection is
especially shown in the higher ideas entertained regarding the
gods. The turbulent Olympian court has almost disappeared.
.^ There is no Creator; but Zeus—how, we do not know—has come to be regarded as a Being relatively Supreme, and as, on occasion, the guardian of morality.
.^ The earliest trace of such contests is to be found in the story of Thamyris, the Thracian singer, who boasted that he could conquer even the Muses in song ( Il.
^ The advance of morality is shown in the more frequent use of terms such as " just " ( &LLKacos), " piety " (&ih), " insolence " ( 15 1 3pcs), " god-fearing" ( 0eou&7) s), " pure " ( &yvos); and also in the plot of the story, which is distinctly a contest between right and wrong.
^ Zeus has acquired the character of a supreme moral ruler; and although Athena and Poseidon are adverse influences in the poem, the notion of a direct contest between them is scrupulously avoided.
.^ The processes have been quite different, and in Apollo, the oracular son of Zeus, who declares his counsel to men, I am apt to see a beautiful Greek modification of the type of the mediating Son of the primal Being of savage belief, adorned with many of the attributes of the Sun God, from whom, however, he is fundamentally distinct.
^ But in me would many-footed sea-beasts and black seals make their chambers securely, no men dwelling by me.
^ Zeus took pity upon him, and gave him as a ransom of his son high-stepping horses that bear the immortal Gods.
The singer, too,
who is so prominent a figure in the
Odyssey can hardly be
thought to be absent from the
Iliad merely because the
scene is laid in a camp.
Style of Homer
.^ A few suggestions, however, may be made.
^ A few words remain to be said on the style and general character of the Homeric poems, and on the comparisons which may be made between Homer and analogous poetry in other countries.
^ For it is difficult to believe that the Homeric poems were ever " sung " in the strict sense of the word.
.^ The cardinal qualities of the style of Homer have been pointed out once for all by Matthew Arnold .
^ It is his noble and powerful style, sustained through every change of idea and subject, that finally separates Homer from all forms of " ballad-poetry " and " popular epic."
^ These speeches form the cardinal points in the action of the Iliad - the framework into which everything else is set; and they have also the best title to the name of Homer.
.^ The translator of Homer," he says, " should above all be penetrated by a sense of four qualities of his author - that he is eminently rapid; that he is eminently plain and direct, both in the evolution of his thought and in the expression of it, that is, both in his syntax and in his words; that he is eminently plain and direct in the substance of his thought, that is, in his matter and ideas; and, finally, that he is eminently noble " ( On Translating Homer, p.
^ The plainness and directness, both of thought and of expression, which characterize Homer were doubtless qualities of his age; but the author of the Iliad (like Voltaire, to whom Arnold happily compares him) must have possessed the national gift in a surpassing degree.
^ Rapidity or ease of movement, plainness of expression and plainness of thought, these are not the distinguishing qualities of the great epic poets - Virgil , Dante , Milton .
9).
.^ The peculiar rapidity of Homer is due in great measure to his use of the hexameter verse.
^ The great Alexandrian critics did not use the Hymns as illustrative material in their discussion of Homer.
^ Their chief value consists in the curious short poems or fragments of verse which they have preserved - the so-called Epigrams, which used to be printed at the end of editions of Homer.
.^ It is characteristic of early literature that the evolution of the thought - that is, the grammatical form of the sentence - is guided by the structure of the verse; and the correspondence which consequently obtains between the rhythm and the grammar - the thought being given out in lengths, as it were, and these again divided by tolerably uniform pauses - produces a swift flowing movement, such as is rarely found when the periods have been constructed without direct reference to the metre.
^ Homer uses no constructions loosely or without corresponding differences of meaning.
^ It may even be admitted that the swift-flowing movement, and the simplicity of thought and style, which we admire in the Iliad are an inheritance from the earlier " lays " - the 104a &v&p&v such as Achilles and Patroclus sang to the lyre in their tent.
That Homer possesses this rapidity without falling into
the corresponding faults - that is, without becoming either " jerky
" or monotonous - is perhaps the best proof of his unequalled
poetical skill.
.^ To the English reader familiar with the Iliad and Odyssey the Hymns must appear disappointing, if he come to them with an expectation of discovering merits like those of the immortal epics.
The
Odyssey is in this
respect perceptibly below the level of the
Iliad. Rapidity
or ease of movement, plainness of expression and plainness of
thought, these are not the distinguishing qualities of the great
epic poets -
Virgil,
Dante,
Milton. On the contrary, they belong rather to
the humbler epico-lyrical school for which Homer has been so often
claimed.
.^ Thus, the Hesiodic school was closely connected with Delphi; the Homeric with Ionia, so that Delphi rarely occurs in the Epics; in fact only thrice (Ι.
^ For this reason and for many others, we regard the Hymns, on the whole, as post-Homeric, while their collector, by inserting the Hymn to Ares, shows little proof of discrimination.
.^ (I may refer to my work, “Homer and the Epic,” for a defence of the unity of Iliad and Odyssey.
.^ The Hymn to Aphrodite is just such a lay as the Phæacian minstrel sang at the feast of Alcinous, in the hearing of Odysseus.
Even the metre - the hexameter
verse - may be assigned to them.
.^ They are, therefore, set over various departments: Love, War, Agriculture, Medicine, Poetry, Commerce, while one or more of the sons take the places of Apollo and Hermes.
^ Does such remote antiquity show us any examples of such handling of sacred things in poetry?
^ Certainly it would have been easier for me to abound in æsthetic criticism of the Hymns, and on the aspect of Greek literary art which they illustrate.
In the scene on the walls of Troy, in the third
book of the
Iliad, after Helen has pointed out Agamemnon,
Ulysses and Ajax in answer to Priam's 1 " As a poet Homer must be
acknowledged to excel
Shakespeare in the truth, the
harmony, the sustained grandeur, the satisfying completeness of his
images " (Shelley,
Essays, &c., i. 51, ed. 1852).
.^ Then to him the old man spake and answered: .
^ They offer to him a cup, like the beverage prepared for Demeter, in the Hymn, by Iambê.
^ Thereby she won the heart in Eilithyia’s breast, and forth they fared, like timid wild doves in their going.
61).
questions, she goes on unasked to name
Idomeneus. Lachmann, whose mind is full of
the ballad manner, fastens upon this as an irregularity. " The
unskilful transition from Ajax to Idomeneus, about whom no question
had been asked," he cannnot attribute to the original poet of the
lay (
Betrachtungen, p. 15, ed. 1865).
.^ The same argument applies to the antiquity of writing, assigned by poets as the invention of various mythical and prehistoric heroes.
Analogies
.^ These things can grow up, autochthonous and underived, out of the soil of human nature anywhere, granting certain social conditions.
.^ (I may refer to my work, “Homer and the Epic,” for a defence of the unity of Iliad and Odyssey.
^ At all events we have here work visibly third rate, which cannot be said, in my poor opinion, about the immense mass of the Iliad and Odyssey.
^ To the English reader familiar with the Iliad and Odyssey the Hymns must appear disappointing, if he come to them with an expectation of discovering merits like those of the immortal epics.
Narrative poetry of great interest is found in several countries
(such as Spain and
Servia), in
which it has never attained to the epic stage. In Scandinavia, in
Lithuania, in
Russia,
according to
Gaston Paris (
Histoire
poetique de Charlemagne, p. 9), the national songs
have been arrested in a form which may be called intermediate
between contemporary poetry and the epic. The true epics are those
of
India, Persia, Greece,
Germany,
Britain and
France.
.^ Beyond this all is conjecture, and the secret may have been so well kept just because, in fact, there was no secret to keep.
^ Our second part is no hymn at all, but a sequel tacked on for political purposes only: and valuable for these purposes because so tacked on.
^ At no time, however, was Ares a popular God in Greece; in Homer he is a braggart and coward.
The most instructive, perhaps
the only instructive, parallel is to be found in the French "
chansons de
geste," of which the
Chanson de Roland is the earliest
and best example. These poems are traced back with much probability
to the 10th century.
.^ Greece only offers a gracious modification of the beliefs, rites, and myths of the races who now are “nearest the beginning,” however remote from that unknown beginning they may be.
^ This, then, is the plausible explanation of most of the brief Hymns—they were preludes to epic recitations—but the question as to the long narrative Hymns with which the collection opens is different.
^ (I may refer to my work, “Homer and the Epic,” for a defence of the unity of Iliad and Odyssey.
But as early as the 7th century we come upon
traces of short lays (the so-called cantilenes) which were in the
mouths of all and were sung in
chorus. It has been held that the chansons de
geste were formed by joining together " bunches " of these earlier
cantilenes, and this was the view taken by
Leon Gautier in the first
edition of
Les Epopees frangaises (1865).
.^ As to Baumeister’s theory that the second part is Hesiodic, Gemoll finds a Hesiodic reminiscence in the first part (line 121), while there are Homeric reminiscences in the second part.
He believes that the epics were generally composed
under the influence of earlier songs. " Our first epic poets," he
says, " did not actually and materially patch together pre-existent
cantilenes. They were only inspired by these popular songs; they
only borrowed from them the traditional and legendary elements. In
short, they took nothing from them but the ideas, the spirit, the
life; they ` found' (ils ont trouve) all the rest " (p. 80). But he
admits that " some of the old poems may have been borrowed from
tradition, without any intermediary " (
ibid.); and when it
is considered that the traces of the
.^ Does such remote antiquity show us any examples of such handling of sacred things in poetry?
^ Thus the Greek genius had other and better materials to work on, in evolving Demeter, than the rather lowly animal which is associated with her rites.
^ The Greeks, therefore, may have evolved the legend long before Homer’s day, and he may have known the story which he does not find occasion to tell.
vii.
.^ Recherches sur l’Origine et la Nature des Mystères d’Eleusis .
Voila ce qui a pu se produire pour
de chants tres-courts, dont it est d'ailleurs aussi difficile
d'affirmer que de vier l'existence.
.^ Recherches sur l’Origine et la Nature des Mystères d’Eleusis .
65).
.^ Recherches sur l’Origine et la Nature des Mystères d’Eleusis .
.. On
tire encore argument des romances espagnoles, qui,
dit-on, sont des ` cantilenes ' non encore arrivees a l'epopee...
Et c'est le malheur de
cette
theorie: faute de preuves directes, elle cherche des analogies au
dehors; en Espagne, elle trouve des ` cantilenes,' mais pas
d'epopee; en Allemagne, une epopee, mais pas de cantilenes ! "
(
Ibid. p. 66).
noticed above between the
.^ (I may refer to my work, “Homer and the Epic,” for a defence of the unity of Iliad and Odyssey.
.^ But here the New Life is rather that of the lad admitted to full tribal privileges (including moral precepts) than that of a converted character.
^ Finally, the second poet (and here every one must agree) is a much worse poet than the first.
^ As to the myths in the Hymns, I would naturally study them from the standpoint of anthropology, and in the light of comparison of the legends of much more backward peoples than the Greeks.
Some external differences have been already indicated.
.^ Thus, the Hesiodic school was closely connected with Delphi; the Homeric with Ionia, so that Delphi rarely occurs in the Epics; in fact only thrice (Ι.
It is also distinguished from them by the comparative
absence of underlying motives or sentiment. In Virgil's poetry a
sense of the greatness of Rome and Italy is the leading motive of a
passionate
rhetoric,
partly veiled by the " chosen delicacy " of his language. Dante and
Milton are still more faithful exponents of the religion and
politics of their time. Even the French epics are pervaded by the
sentiment of fear and hatred of the
Saracens. But in Homer the interest is purely
dramatic.
.^ The choice of Israel was unique: Greece retained far more of the lower ancient ideas, but gave to them a beauty of grace and form which is found among no other race.
^ In the politically inspired sequel there is, according to Mr. Verrall, no living zeal for the honour of Pytho (Delphi).
The interest lies wholly (so far as we
can see) in the picture of human action and feeling.
Bibliography
- A complete bibliography of Homer would fill volumes. The
following list is intended to include those books only which are of
first-rate importance.
The
editio princeps of Homer, published at
Florence in 1488, by
Demetrius Chalcondylas, and
the Aldine editions of 1504 and 1517, have still some value beyond
that of curiosity.
.^ To the English reader familiar with the Iliad and Odyssey the Hymns must appear disappointing, if he come to them with an expectation of discovering merits like those of the immortal epics.
.^ W. Walter Merry, James Riddell, D. B. Monro.
with appendices, Oxford, 1901); Monro and Allen
(
Iliad), and Allen (
Odyssey, 1908, Oxford). The
commentaries of Barnes, Clarke and Ernesti are practically
superseded; but Heyne's
Iliad (Leipzig, 1802) and
Nitzsch's commentary on the
Odyssey (books i.-xii.,
Hanover, 1826-1840) are still
useful. Nagelbach's
Anmerkungen zur Ilias (A, B 1-483, F)
is of great value, especially the third edition (by Autenrieth,
Nuremberg, 1864). The
unique
Scholia Veneta on the
Iliad were first
made known by Villoison (
Homeri Ilias ad veteris codicis Veneti fidem recensita, Scholia
in earn antiquissima ex eodem
codice aliisque nunc primum edidit, cum A steriscis, Obeliscis,
aliisque signis criticis, Joh. Baptista Caspar d'Ansse de
Villoison, Venice, 1788); reprinted, with many additions from
other MSS., by Bekker (
Scholia in Homeri Iliadem, Berlin,
1825-1826). A new edition has been published by the Oxford Press
(
Scholia Graeca in Homeri Iliadem, ed. Gul. Dindorfius);
six volumes have appeared (1875-1888), the last two edited by
Professor E. Maass. The vast commentary of Eustathius was first
printed at Rome in 1542; the last edition is that of Stallbaum
(Leipzig, 1827). The Scholia on the
Odyssey were published
by Buttmann (Berlin, 1821), and with greater approach to
completeness by W. Dindorf (Oxford, 1855). Although Wolf at once
perceived the value of the Venetian Scholia on the
Iliad,
the first scholar who thoroughly explored them was C. Lehrs (
De
Aristarchi studiis Homericis, Konigsberg, 1833; 2nd ed., Leipzig, 1865).
Of the studies in the same field which have appeared since, the
most important are: Aug. Nauck,
Aristophanis Byzantii
fragmenta (Halle, 1848); L. Frier'- lander,
Aristonici
7431 agp.dwv 'IXLi bos
reliquiae (Göttingen, 18 53);
M. Schmidt,
Didymi
Chalcenteri fragmenta (Leipzig, 1854); L. Friedlander,
Nicanoris 7repi '
IXLaK4 s ariyµ)s reliquiae
(Berlin, 18 57); Aug. Lentz,
Herodiani Technici reliquiae
(Leipzig, 1867); J. La Roche,
Die homerische Textkritik im
Alterthum (i _ t: zig, 1866) and
Homerische
Untersuchungen (Leipzig, 1869); Ad. Romer,
Die Werke der
Aristarcheer im Cod. Venet. A.
(Munich, 1875); A. Ludwich,
Aristarch's Homerische
Textkritik (2 vols. Leipzig, 1884-1885); and
Die
Homervulgata als vor-Alexandrinisch erwiesen (Leipzig,
1898).
The literature of the " Homeric Question " begins practically
with Wolf's Prolegomena (Halle, 1795). Of the earlier
books Wood's Essay on the Original Genius and Writings of
Homer is the most interesting. Wolf's views were skilfully
popularized in W. Miiller's Homerische Vorschule (2nd ed.,
Leipzig, 1836). G. Hermann's dissertations De interpolationibus
Homeri (1832) and De iteratis apud Homerum (1840) are
reprinted in his Opuscula. Lachmann's two papers
(Betrachtungen fiber Homer's Ilias) were edited together
by M. Haupt (2nd ed., Berlin, 1865). Besides the somewhat
voluminous writings of Nitzsch, and the discussions contained in
the histories of Greek literature by K. O. Muller, Bernhardy,
Ulrici and Th. Bergk, and in Grote's History of Greece,
see Welcker, Der epische 3 A. Lang, Contemporary
Review, vol. xvii., N.S., p. 588.
Homestead And Exemption
Laws 639
Cyclus oder die
homerischen Dichter (Bonn, 1835-1849); on
Proclus and the Cycle reference may also be
made to Wilamowitz-M011endorf p. 328 seq.; E. Bethe,
Rhein. Mus. (1891), xxvi. p. 593 seq.; O.
Immisch,
Festschrift Th. Gomperz dargebracht (1902), p.
237 sq.; Lauer,
Geschichte der homerischen Poesie (Berlin,
1851); Sengebusch, two dissertations prefixed to the two volumes of
W. Dindorf's
Homer in the Teubner series (1855-1856);
Friedlander,
Die homerische Kritik von Wolf bis Grote
(Berlin, 1853); Nutzhorn,
Die Entstehungsweise der homerischen
Gedichte, mit Vorwort von J. N. Madvig (Leipzig, 1869); E.
Kammer,
Zur homerischen Frage (Konigsberg, 1870); and
Die Einheit der Odyssee (Leipzig, 1873); A. Kirchhoff,
Die Composition der Odyssee (Berlin, 1869); Volkmann,
Geschichte and Kritik der Wolf'schen Prolegomena (Leipzig,
1874); K. Sittl,
Die Wiederholungen in der Odyssee
(Munchen, 1882); U. v. WilamowitzMollendorf,
Homerische
Untersuchungen (Berlin, 1884); O. Seeck,
Die Quellen der
Odyssee (Berlin, 1887); F. Blass,
Die Interpolationen in
der Odyssee (Leipzig, 1905).
.^ See “Costumal of the Thirteenth Century,” with much learning on the subject, in Mr. Elton’s “Origins of English History,” especially p.
The Homeric dialect must be studied in the books (such as those
of G. Curtius) that deal with Greek on the comparative method. The
best special work is the brief Griechische Formenlehre of
H. L. Ahrens (Göttingen, 1852). Other important works are those of
Aug. Fick: Die homerische Odyssee in der urspriinglichen
Sprachform wiederhergestelt (Göttingen, 1883); Die
homerische Ilias (ibid., 1886); W. Schulze, Quaestiones
epicae (GUterslohe, 1892). On Homeric syntax the chief book is
B. Delbrack's Syntactische Forschungen (Halle, 1871-1879),
especially vols. i. and iv.; on metre, &c., Hartel's
Homerische Studien (i.-iii., Vienna); Knos, De digammo
Homerico quaestiones (Upsala, 1872-1873-1878); Thumb, Zur
Geschichte des griech. Digamma, Indogermanische Forschungen
(1898), ix. 294 seq. The papers reprinted in Bekker's
Homerische Bldtter (Bonn, 1863-1872) and Cobet's
Miscellanea Critica (Leiden, 1876) are of the highest
value. Hoffmann's Quaestiones Homericae (Clausthal, 1842)
is a useful collection of facts. Buttmann's Lexilogus, as
an example of method, is still worth study.
.^ The most minute study of Lobeck’s Aglaophamus can tell us no more than this; the curious may consult a useful short manual, Eleusis, Ses Mystères, Ses Ruines, et son Musée , by M. Demetrios Philios.
^ The white flour on their locks may be the grey hair of old age: we know, however, a practice of divining with grain among an early agricultural people, the Hurons.
78-112.
.^ To the English reader familiar with the Iliad and Odyssey the Hymns must appear disappointing, if he come to them with an expectation of discovering merits like those of the immortal epics.
Ven. A (Sijthoff;
Leiden, 1901), with an
introduction by D. Comparetti. (D. B. M.)