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Music from "The Elder"
Studio album by Kiss
Released November 16, 1981
Recorded March – September 1981
Genre Hard rock
Length 42:46
Label Casablanca
Producer Bob Ezrin
Professional reviews
Kiss chronology
Music from
"The Elder"

Alternate cover
Japan only album cover size cover sheet "obi"

Music from "The Elder" is a 1981 concept album released by the American hard rock band Kiss. It was an attempt on the part of the group to establish Kiss as credible artists, and also to reverse the trend of declining album sales and commercial popularity that had begun in 1979. Instead, the album further served to alienate the group's fan base and represents the commercial nadir of the group.

To date, Music from "The Elder" is one of only two Kiss studio albums to fail to earn any US certification (the other is 1997's Carnival of Souls: The Final Sessions). Album sales were so poor that Kiss did not embark on a supporting tour for the first time in its eight-year history, opting instead to make a handful of promotional appearances.[1]

Music from "The Elder" was the last Kiss album that lead guitarist Ace Frehley participated in until the 1996 reunion. Frehley, who was disgruntled with the band's creative direction, as well as with the production of Bob Ezrin, stopped actively participating in Kiss by early 1982 and was officially out of the group by November 1982.[2][3]

While "A World Without Heroes" was later on performed on the band's 1995 MTV Unplugged appearance, the entire album has been largely ignored on live performances. During a show in Australia in 2004, the band attempted to perform "I", but bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons had long forgotten the lyrics.[4]


Album history


Kiss was in the midst of a transitional phase as the 1980s began. Founding member and drummer Peter Criss, who was not involved in the recording of 1980's Unmasked, officially left Kiss in May 1980. His replacement, Eric Carr, was officially introduced in July. The group had recently embarked on a hugely successful tour of Australia and New Zealand (where the group's popularity was at its peak) in November, but the band's commercial fortunes at home were drastically reduced from their 1975-79 heyday. Due to the lackluster sales of Unmasked, Kiss toured exclusively outside the United States for the first time in their career, save for one concert at the now-defunct Palladium Theatre in New York. The overseas tours were well-attended, partly because Kiss had rarely ventured abroad and because the more pop oriented Dynasty and Unmasked albums did better in the European markets than their earlier more hard rock albums had.[1][2]

This commercial downturn is attributable to many factors, two of the biggest being the softening of Kiss's image in an effort to appeal to a broader fan base, and the softening of their music. Unmasked was a decidedly more pop-oriented effort than earlier albums, and represented a sales dropoff of 65% from 1979's Dynasty.[1] It also became the first Kiss album to fail to achieve platinum status since 1975's Dressed to Kill. From a marketing standpoint, the glut of Kiss merchandising that had cropped up in the late 1970s had led to a backlash from fans, who felt that Kiss was now more concerned with making money than with making music.[2]

In an effort to return to their hard rock roots, Kiss began recording music that was more akin to the hard rock style that had launched them to popularity in the mid-1970s. The Fall 1980 issue of the Kiss Army Newsletter hinted at the style the new album was to take—"It will be hard and heavy from start to finish—straight-on rock and roll that will knock your socks off."[3] But at the same time, founding members Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley, and creative manager Bill Aucoin felt that just returning to a harder sound was not enough. They believed that only a bold artistic statement would regenerate public interest in Kiss. To that end, they enlisted producer Bob Ezrin to work with the group who in turn daringly employed members from the American Symphony Orchestra and St. Robert's Choir to record tracks for the album. Ezrin had worked with the group before, producing the group's hit 1976 album Destroyer. More recently, he had co-produced Pink Floyd's landmark 1979 concept album, The Wall. Simmons, Stanley and Aucoin felt that Ezrin could help bring their ambitions to fruition.[2]


Recording sessions for the album commenced in March 1981. Sessions were held in Toronto, New York City, and guitarist Ace Frehley's home studio in Wilton, Connecticut. During the recording, Ezrin and Kiss worked in complete secrecy. Ezrin, in particular, had insisted that he would only communicate with Kiss or Bill Aucoin. No one other than Ezrin and Kiss ever heard the album in progress.[2]

Frehley became increasingly frustrated during the sessions, as he disagreed with the band's decision to abandon their original plan to record a straight-ahead rock album. Additionally, a number of guitar solos Frehley recorded were not included in the final mixes.[5] But, as happened frequently after Criss's departure, Frehley was outvoted 2-to-1 on band matters of this type. (Carr was not a partner in Kiss as the other three members were, but rather an employee). He also resented what he felt was Simmons and Stanley's domination of the recording sessions.[2][5]


When Kiss premiered Music from "The Elder" for their management and record company in October 1981, the reaction was a mixture of confusion and resentment. Business manager Howard Marks refused to allow his company's name to appear in the liner notes.[2] Fan reaction to the album was equally harsh, while critical reaction was comparably positive. But while reviews like the one printed by Rolling Stone were much kinder than past ones had been[6], the album quickly disappeared from the charts. After being released on November 16, it peaked at #75 and was off the charts completely by February 1982.

Although budgets were prepared for a tour, none was ever undertaken. The only public appearances the band made in conjunction with the album were a January 15, 1982 appearance on the late-night comedy show Fridays (they performed "A World Without Heroes", "I" and "The Oath"), Solid Gold (they performed "A World Without Heroes", and "I"), and a January 28 lip synched performance of "I" from Studio 54 that was broadcast via satellite to the Sanremo Festival in Italy. Frehley was a no show for the Studio 54 appearance, so the group performed as a trio.[1]

Most of the participants in the album's recording admit that it was a major misstep for Kiss. Ezrin, despite what was his recent success with the even more ambitious The Wall, admitted that his judgments concerning Music from "The Elder" were clouded due in large part to a cocaine addiction at the time. Stanley and Simmons admit that they were "delusional" concerning the project, while Frehley has stated that he felt that it wasn't a good idea to begin with.[5]

Q Magazine ranked Music From "The Elder" 44th in their list of The 50 Worst Albums Ever.[7]

To this day, Music From "The Elder" had now became a cult classic, to fans and still crawling to 500,000 copies.


The original vinyl release was a gatefold-sleeve. For the first time, a Kiss album featured no image of the group, let alone the customary front-cover appearance. Contrary to popular belief, the hand reaching for the door-knocker is not that of Paul Stanley: Bill Aucoin has stated that it belongs to a hand-model, hired specifically for the shoot. The door itself belongs to a Methodist church on Park Avenue, New York City. One of the rarest releases by Kiss on vinyl was an alternate cover of the Elder released in Turkey on Dallas Records which used the "A World Without Heroes" single art (Pictured below) on the cover.

The photo session displayed a change of image: the costumes were more streamlined, especially when compared with the somewhat overblown (even for Kiss) costumes for Unmasked, as were the hairstyles of Stanley and Simmons in particular.


The basic plot of Music from "The Elder" involves the recruitment and training of a young hero (The Boy) by the Council of Elders who belong to the Order of the Rose, a mysterious group dedicated to combating evil. The Boy is guided by an elderly caretaker named Morpheus. The album's lyrics describe the boy's feelings during his journey and training, as he overcomes his early doubts to become confident and self-assured. The only spoken dialogue is at the end of the last track, "I." During the passage, Morpheus proclaims to the Elders that The Boy is ready to undertake his odyssey.


Dutch single cover to "The Oath" b/w "I" single.
Australian single cover of the "A World Without Heroes" b/w "Dark Light" single.

The version of Music from "The Elder" released in the United States, Europe and Brazil contained a different song order than the one originally intended. This order was chosen in order to emphasize "The Oath" and "A World Without Heroes" as potential singles (the two songs started each side of the record). One effect this alteration in song order had was to disrupt the narrative flow of the album's story. The Japanese pressing of the album contained the intended song sequence, although "Escape from the Island" was omitted from the album and instead included as the B-side of "The Oath" single.[3] This sequence was used (with the inclusion of "Escape from the Island") when Music from "The Elder" was re-released on CD in 1997.[8]

A number of narrative passages were cut from the final version of the album. These passages were meant to provide details of the story, and to act as transitional elements between songs.[3]

"The Oath"

Arguably the heaviest song on the album, many parts of the song feature Paul Stanley singing in falsetto, a vocal technique Paul utilized on several of the album's tracks. Ace tunes down his guitar a semi-tone for this song.

"Dark Light"

"Dark Light," written by Ace Frehley, was based on a guitar riff composed by Anton Fig. When it was originally recorded as a pre-Elder demo, the title was "Don't Run."[3] It is the only song Frehley sings on the album.

"A World Without Heroes"

The lone single from the album, "A World Without Heroes," was originally entitled "Every Little Bit of Your Heart." The name was changed when it was decided to record The Elder as a concept album. Lou Reed wrote the lyric, "A world without heroes is like a world without sun."[9] The video for the song was the first Kiss video played by MTV.[1] It and "I" are the only songs on the album where Frehley does not play.

Track listing - International release

# Title Writer(s) Lead vocals Length
1. "Fanfare"   Paul Stanley, Bob Ezrin (instrumental) 1:21
2. "Just a Boy"   Stanley, Ezrin Stanley 2:25
3. "Odyssey"   Tony Powers Stanley 5:36
4. "Only You"   Gene Simmons Gene Simmons, Stanley 4:17
5. "Under the Rose"   Simmons, Eric Carr Simmons 4:51
6. "Dark Light"   Ace Frehley, Simmons, Anton Fig, Lou Reed Ace Frehley 4:18
7. "A World Without Heroes"   Stanley, Simmons, Ezrin, Reed Simmons 2:40
8. "The Oath"   Stanley, Ezrin, Powers Stanley 4:31
9. "Mr. Blackwell"   Simmons, Reed Simmons 4:52
10. "Escape from the Island"   Frehley, Carr, Ezrin (instrumental) 2:52
11. "I"   Simmons, Ezrin Simmons, Stanley 5:03

US/European version

  1. "The Oath"
  2. "Fanfare"
  3. "Just a Boy"
  4. "Dark Light"
  5. "Only You"
  6. "Under the Rose"
  7. "A World Without Heroes"
  8. "Mr. Blackwell"
  9. "Escape from the Island"
  10. "Odyssey"
  11. "I"
  12. "Finale"




  • Bob Ezrin - producer; keyboards; bass guitar on "The Oath", "Dark Light" and "Escape from the Island"[3][5]


Album - Billboard (North America)[10]

Year Chart Position
1981 Pop Albums 75

Album - UK Albums Chart (United Kingdom)[11]

Year Chart Position
1981 UK Albums Chart 51

Singles - Billboard (United States)[12]

Year Single Charts Position
1982 "A World Without Heroes" Pop Singles 56

Singles - Billboard (United Kingdom)

Year Single Chart Position
1981 "A World Without Heroes" Pop Singles 55

Singles - Billboard (Austria)

Year Single Chart Position
1981 "I" Pop Singles 24

Singles - Billboard (Germany)

Year Single Chart Position
1981 "I" Pop Singles 62

Singles - Billboard (Holland)

Year Single Chart Position
1981 "I" Pop Singles 48


  • "I go on record saying it's not a great Kiss record but I think it's a really great record." – Paul Stanley, 1996[9]
  • "As a Kiss record I'd give it a zero. As a bad Genesis record, I'd give it a two." – Gene Simmons, 2003[5]
  • "We've done a lot of fuck me suck me songs and we thought we might like to go a slightly different route." – Paul Stanley, 1982[13]
  • "I hated that album, that was the icing on the cake when I quit the group. I listened to it, I took the tape and smashed it against the wall." - Ace Frehley, 2001 Behind the Makeup

Notes and references

  1. ^ a b c d e Gooch, Curt and Jeff Suhs. Kiss Alive Forever: The Complete Touring History. Billboard Books, 2002. ISBN 0-8230-8322-5
  2. ^ a b c d e f g Lendt, C.K. Kiss and Sell: The Making of a Supergroup, Billboard Books, 1997. ISBN 0-8230-7551-6
  3. ^ a b c d e f Gill, Julian. The Kiss Album Focus, Volume 1 (3rd Edition). Xlibris Corporation, 2005. ISBN 1-4134-8547-2
  4. ^ Kiss - "I"
  5. ^ a b c d e Leaf, David and Ken Sharp. Kiss: Behind the Mask: The Official Authorized Biography, Warner Books, 2003. ISBN 0-446-53073-5
  6. ^ Considine, J.D. February 18, 1982. Music from "The Elder" review. Rolling Stone. Retrieved June 29, 2006.
  7. ^ Q lists - page3
  8. ^ Music From "The Elder". The KISSFAQ. Retrieved April 27, 2006.
  9. ^ a b Sharp, Ken. (July 19, 1996). "The Return of Kiss - 'It's Time for Spectacle'". Goldmine #147.
  10. ^ "AllMusic Billboard". Retrieved 2009-01-27.  
  11. ^ "UK Albums Chart". http:// Retrieved December 17, 2009.  
  12. ^ "AllMusic Billboard singles". Retrieved 2009-01-27.  
  13. ^ (February 1982). "Kiss Go for Broke". Hit Parader.

Simple English

Music From "The Elder" is a concept album by the American hard rock/heavy metal band Kiss. It was released on November 10, 1981.

Track listing

  • Fanfare
  • Just A Boy
  • Odyssey
  • Only You
  • Under The Rose
  • Dark Light
  • A World Without Heroes
  • The Oath
  • Mr. Blackwell
  • I

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