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New Firm
City or region North-east Scotland
Teams involved Aberdeen and Dundee Utd
Most wins Aberdeen

The New Firm is the term used to describe the rivalry between Scottish football clubs Aberdeen and Dundee United. Both clubs are located on the east coast of Scotland, in the third and fourth most populous cities respectively.

Although not traditionally a derby, with 65 miles separating both teams, the fixture is seen as a North-east of Scotland derby between the two most successful teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm in the past 30 years.

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History

The term originated in the 1980s when both clubs challenged the Old Firm for domestic trophies.[1]

The Old Firm have always been the dominant force in Scottish Football, however throughout the 1980s both Aberdeen and Dundee United were more than a match for them, regularly beating them home and away and winning most of the trophies on offer.

Aberdeen were to win the Scottish Premier Division three times, the Scottish Cup four times, the Scottish League Cup twice and the European Cup Winners Cup and the European Super Cup, all within the 1980s.

In this same period, Dundee United won the Scottish Premier Division once, and the Scottish League Cup twice, as well as reaching the Scottish Cup final four times, the UEFA cup final, and the European Cup semi-final.

Not only were the Old Firm not dominating the title race, for three seasons in a row, 1983 through to 1985, the league title went to either Aberdeen or Dundee United, meaning for the first time two other teams were dominating Scottish Football.

Both sides' success was limited as they entered the 1990s. Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup in 1990, and reaching cup finals in 1992 and 1993 as well as almost winning the league in 1991, while Dundee United were cup finalists in 1991 and Scottish Cup winners in 1994, however in the 1994/95 season both sides fought relegation, and although Aberdeen won the Scottish league cup in 1995 neither side has won a trophy since or managed to be a consistent force for Rangers and Celtic to reckon with, and Aberdeen's league success in 1984/85 is the last time a team from outside the Old Firm has won the Scottish league title.

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Domestic head-to-head

In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 217 times, Aberdeen winning 85 compared to United's 70.[2] Aberdeen have won more league and Scottish Cup matches, although United have won one more League Cup match between the two.

After 02 January 2010:
Team League Scottish Cup League Cup Total
Aberdeen 65 11 9 85
Dundee United 54 6 10 70
Draw 48 9 5 62

League competition

In the ten full seasons of the Scottish Premier League (up to the end of the 2007–08 season), Aberdeen have a superior record, accumulating more points.

As of 16 March 2010:
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen 12 442 154 107 181 524 622 −98 569
Dundee United 12 442 125 124 193 491 670 −179 499

European competition

In European competition, Aberdeen have played in more tournaments and in more games, competing in 27 tournaments to United's 23 and in five more matches.[3] Despite this, United have a better record per game, having won and scored more, and lost and conceded fewer. In terms of trophies, Aberdeen won the 1982–83 Cup Winners' Cup, as well as the European Super Cup, whereas United were runners-up in the 1986–87 UEFA Cup.

As of 20 August 2009:
Team T P W D L F A
Aberdeen 27 109 44 28 37 160 130
Dundee United 23 104 45 28 31 162 104

Players at both clubs

Nine players have signed for Dundee United directly from Aberdeen, the last being in 2000. Ten have made the opposite journey from Tannadice to Pittodrie, with five since August 2005.

Aberdeen to Dundee United

Date Player Fee
00 000 1964 Scotland Thom, LewisLewis Thom Unknown[4]
00 000 1976 Scotland Williamson, BillyBilly Williamson Unknown[5]
01 Jul 1983 Scotland Gardiner, JohnJohn Gardiner Unknown[6]
05 Nov 1995 Scotland Ray McKinnon £200,000[7]
19 Mar 1997 Scotland McKimmie, StewartStewart McKimmie Free[8]
01 Jul 1998 Scotland Joe Miller Free[9]
23 Sep 1998 Scotland Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds Swap[10]
19 Jan 2000 Scotland Hamilton, JimJim Hamilton £150,000[11]
08 Jun 2000 England Buchan, JamieJamie Buchan Free[12]

Dundee United to Aberdeen

Date Player Fee
00 Oct 1966 Scotland Munro, FrankFrank Munro £10,000[13]
09 Jan 1974 Scotland Henry, JimJim Henry £20,000[13]
28 Mar 1992 Finland Paatelainen, MixuMixu Paatelainen £400,000[14]
02 Jun 1998 Scotland Perry, MarkMark Perry Free[15]
23 Sep 1998 Scotland Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters £700,000[10]
31 Aug 2005 Scotland Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford Free[16]
31 Aug 2006 Scotland Miller, LeeLee Miller Free[17]
01 Jun 2007 Scotland Mair, LeeLee Mair Free[18]
18 Jan 2008 Scotland Duff, StuartStuart Duff Free[19]
07 Jul 2008 Scotland Kerr, MarkMark Kerr Free[20]

Complete list

In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.

Scotland Scottish

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England English
Finland Finnish
Northern Ireland Northern Irish

Player records

A list of players to have scored in derby matches between the two from 27 August 1994 up to 24 October 2009 is below:

Aberdeen goalscorers

Scorer Goals
Scotland Mackie, DarrenDarren Mackie
7
Norway Stavrum, ArildArild Stavrum
7
Scotland Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters
7
Scotland Nicholson, BarryBarry Nicholson
4
Scotland Young, DerekDerek Young
4
Scotland Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford
3
Scotland Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds
3
Scotland McGuire, PhilPhil McGuire
3
Scotland Sheerin, PaulPaul Sheerin
3
England Windass, DeanDean Windass
3
Scotland Booth, ScottScott Booth
2
Scotland Diamond, ZanderZander Diamond
2
Scotland Jess, EoinEoin Jess
2
Scotland Kane, PaulPaul Kane
2
Scotland Miller, LeeLee Miller
2
Scotland Severin, ScottScott Severin
2
Scotland Tosh, SteveSteve Tosh
2
Morocco Zerouali, HichamHicham Zerouali
2
England Aluko, SoneSone Aluko
1
Morocco Belabed, RachidRachid Belabed
1
Republic of Ireland Byrne, RichieRichie Byrne
1
Scotland Considine, AndrewAndrew Considine
1
Scotland Dow, AndyAndy Dow
1
Scotland Foster, RickyRicky Foster
1
Scotland Grant, BrianBrian Grant
1
England Hinds, LeighLeigh Hinds
1
Bulgaria Kiriakov, IlianIlian Kiriakov
1
France Kombouaré, ToniToni Kombouaré
1
England Lovell, SteveSteve Lovell
1
England Mike, LeonLeon Mike
1
Scotland Mulgrew, CharlieCharlie Mulgrew
1
Scotland Shearer, DuncanDuncan Shearer
1
Scotland Smith, JamieJamie Smith
1
Denmark Solberg, ThomasThomas Solberg
1
Scotland Stewart, JohnJohn Stewart
1
Netherlands Touzani, KarimKarim Touzani
1
Own goals
1

Dundee United goalscorers

Scorer Goals
Sweden Olofsson, KjellKjell Olofsson
8
Scotland Dodds, BillyBilly Dodds
7
Scotland Winters, RobbieRobbie Winters
7
Scotland Easton, CraigCraig Easton
5
Scotland Robson, BarryBarry Robson
5
Scotland Hannah, DavidDavid Hannah
4
Scotland McLaren, AndyAndy McLaren
3
Spain Sandaza, FranciscoFrancisco Sandaza
3
Scotland Archibald, AlanAlan Archibald
2
Scotland Cameron, GregGreg Cameron
2
Spain Fernandez, DavidDavid Fernandez
2
France Gomis, MorgaroMorgaro Gomis
2
Scotland Grady, JamesJames Grady
2
Republic of Ireland Hunt, NoelNoel Hunt
2
Scotland McSwegan, GaryGary McSwegan
2
Scotland Miller, CharlieCharlie Miller
2
Scotland Miller, JoeJoe Miller
2
Scotland Pressley, StevenSteven Pressley
2
Scotland Robertson, DavidDavid Robertson
2
Trinidad and Tobago Samuel, CollinCollin Samuel
2
Scotland Thompson, StevenSteven Thompson
2
Scotland Brewster, CraigCraig Brewster
1
Argentina Casalinuovo, DamianDamian Casalinuovo
1
Scotland Conway, CraigCraig Conway
1
Scotland Crawford, StevieStevie Crawford
1
Republic of Ireland Daly, JonJon Daly
1
Scotland Dods, DarrenDarren Dods
1
Northern Ireland Feeney, WarrenWarren Feeney
1
Portugal Ferraz, JoaquimJoaquim Ferraz
1
Scotland Goodwillie, DavidDavid Goodwillie
1
Northern Ireland Griffin, DannyDanny Griffin
1
Scotland Hamilton, JimJim Hamilton
1
Norway Kalvenes, ChristianChristian Kalvenes
1
Scotland Lilley, DerekDerek Lilley
1
Scotland McConalogue, StephenStephen McConalogue
1
Scotland McIntyre, JimJim McIntyre
1
Scotland Miller, LeeLee Miller
1
Scotland Paterson, JimJim Paterson
1
Trinidad and Tobago Scotland, JasonJason Scotland
1
Scotland Swanson, DannyDanny Swanson
1
Greece Venetis, TassosTassos Venetis
1
Scotland Welsh, BrianBrian Welsh
1
Scotland Mark Wilson
1
Sweden Zetterlund, LarsLars Zetterlund
1

References

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  3. ^ "Scottish Football in Europe". http://uk.geocities.com/scottishfootballineurope/index.html. http://uk.geocities.com/scottishfootballineurope/allscores.htm. Retrieved 2008-02-18. 
  4. ^ "Lewis Thom". neilbrown.newcastlefans.com. http://www.neilbrown.newcastlefans.com/player/lewisthom.htm. Retrieved 2007-02-17. 
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  8. ^ "The Internet Soccer Database: Stewart McKimmie". Soccerbase. http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=5181. Retrieved 2007-09-26. 
  9. ^ "The Internet Soccer Database: Joe Miller". Soccerbase. http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=5456. Retrieved 2007-11-09. 
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  18. ^ "Mair completes Pittodrie switch". BBC Sport website. 2007-05-01. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aberdeen/6447403.stm. 
  19. ^ "Duff finalises New Firm switch". BBC Sport website. 2008-01-18. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/7182703.stm. 
  20. ^ "Kerr completes Pittodrie switch". BBC Sport website. 2008-07-07. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aberdeen/7486249.stm. 

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