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Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Her Majesty's Government Coat of Arms.svg
Arms of Her Majesty's Government
Incumbent
Gordon Brown

since 27 June 2007
Style The Right Honourable
Residence 10 Downing St
London, England, UK
Appointer Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom
Term length Whilst commanding the confidence of the House of Commons
Inaugural holder Sir Robert Walpole (De Facto Regarded as First Incumbent)
Formation 4 April 1721
Website http://www.number10.gov.uk/
.The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the political leader of the United Kingdom and the Head of Her Majesty's Government.^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Jim: Because I'm the only one member of the government who can't be sent to Northern Ireland next week.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ BUT – She was devoted, hard-working, loyal, responsible, a bloody great leader and someone [irrespective of how much her tenure was a living nightmare] who was dignified and worthy of the role of Prime Minister.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The Prime Minister and Cabinet (consisting of all the most senior ministers, who are government department heads) are collectively accountable for their policies and actions to the Sovereign, to Parliament, to their political party, and ultimately to the electorate.^ Open Government Jim: Who else is in this department?
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

.As the "Head of Her Majesty's Government", the modern Prime Minister is the highest political authority in the United Kingdom: he leads a major political party, generally commands a majority in the House of Commons (the lower house of the Legislature), and is the leader of the Cabinet (the Executive).^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ French Ambassador: Prime Minister, I cannot tell you the gravity of the affront my government would feel if her Majesty were to refuse a gift in exchange for the one our President accepted from her.
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As such, the incumbent wields both legislative and executive powers. .In the House of Commons, the Prime Minister guides the law-making process with the goal of enacting the legislative agenda of the political party he leads.^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Godfrey, The Ministerial Broadcast Make-up Lady: Could you smile Prime Minister.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The Ministerial Broadcast Jim: A party political spells instant boredom, I think it should be a Ministerial broadcast, you know, a Prime Minister addressing his people, but I'll do it into the camera, like a party political.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

.In his executive capacity, the Prime Minister appoints (and may dismiss) all other cabinet members and ministers, and co-ordinates the policies and activities of all government departments, and the staff of the Civil Service.^ Although, or perhaps because, Israel has had one woman prime minister and may soon have another, the litany began with women.
  • Obama, and the first Arab prime minister of Israel

    - Haaretz - Israel News
    23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.haaretz.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm Report comment Whatever one may think of Thatcher’s policies, she was a forthright prime minister with principals and people including the public knew where they stood with her.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The Prime Minister holds power over the deployment and disposition of British forces, and the declaration of war.^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ In short, she was magnificent – and the last British prime minister worthy of the office.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.He acts as the public "face" and "voice" of Her Majesty's Government, both at home and abroad.^ She was certainly very anti-Thatcher both with regard to the evisceration of civil society at home and with regard to Thatcher’s scorn for the Commonwealth abroad, as well as detesting her personally.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.Solely upon the advice of the Prime Minister, the Sovereign exercises many of her statutory and prerogative powers: they include the dissolution of Parliament; high judicial, political, official and Church of England ecclesiastical appointments; and the conferral of peerages, knighthoods, decorations and other honours.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The Danish Prime Minister was not the only high-level official to receive advance knowledge that the World Trade Center was going to collapse.
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^ Jim, The Tangled Web I, I Prime Minister am merely a humble servant, a lowly official.
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.The Prime Minister's current salary is £132,923 (ministerial entitlement), in addition to a salary of £64,766 as a Member of Parliament.^ Bernard, The Ministerial Broadcast Sir Humphrey: I am sorry Prime Minister you can't announce it yet.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The Ministerial Broadcast Things don't happen because Prime Ministers are very keen on them.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

[1] .Number Ten Downing Street is the official residence of the Prime Minister; the incumbent also has use of a country home, Chequers.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Only when a Jewish prime minister is elected in an Arab country Only when a Jewish prime minister is elected in an Arab country .
  • Obama, and the first Arab prime minister of Israel

    - Haaretz - Israel News
    23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.haaretz.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Sir Humphrey: Commonwealth countries, Prime Minister.
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.Upon retirement or defeat, most Prime Ministers (although not all) are awarded a peerage and a seat in the House of Lords if they wish it.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Jim: Oh Lord, what do they all want?
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The current Prime Minister is Gordon Brown, leader of the Labour Party, who was appointed to the office on 27 June 2007; the current parliament must be dissolved by June 2010, or at any previous time at the Prime Minister's request.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Says: October 16th, 2009 at 10:27 am spain’s prime minister turned around in midflight and headed home about the same time the second plane struck WTC. .
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

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.The position of Prime Minister was not created; it has evolved slowly and erratically over three hundred years.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister .
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Its origins are found in constitutional changes that occurred during the Revolutionary Settlement (1688–1720) and the resulting shift of political power from the Sovereign to Parliament. .Early Prime Ministers (1720–1784) were at best ambivalent about that description; many refused to acknowledge or use the title.^ How about this: Prime Minister Churchill vs. President Hoover.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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^ The Tangled Web Bernard: You could say the Prime Minister knows more about it than you do.
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The position was given little formal recognition and was not mentioned in legal documents. Between 1784 and 1911, numerous accidents of history and political developments led to unofficial but popular acceptance of the office. .By the 1830s, the Prime Minister became "first among equals" in the Cabinet and Head of Her Majesty's Government.^ Obama & the first Arab Prime Minister Obama & the first Arab Prime Minister .
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^ Obama, & the first Jewish Prime Minister in..
  • Obama, and the first Arab prime minister of Israel

    - Haaretz - Israel News
    23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.haaretz.com [Source type: Original source]

^ Israel first arab prime minister of Israel .
  • Obama, and the first Arab prime minister of Israel

    - Haaretz - Israel News
    23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.haaretz.com [Source type: Original source]

By the turn of the 20th century, the modern Premiership had emerged; it had become the preeminent position in the constitutional hierarchy vis-a-vis the Sovereign, Parliament and Cabinet. Several recent political changes (Britain's membership in the European Union, the devolution of certain government functions to Ireland, Scotland and Wales, and the enactment of a British Bill of Rights) have placed some limits on the authority of the Premiership; however, the House of Lords Act reduced one of the major constraints on the Commons and the cabinet, and hence on the Prime Minister's power, giving rise to concerns that the office has become too "presidential".
.The modern Prime Minister of the United Kingdom leads a major political party, commands a majority in the House of Commons (the Legislature), and is the leader of the Cabinet (the Executive).^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ The Ministerial Broadcast Jim: A party political spells instant boredom, I think it should be a Ministerial broadcast, you know, a Prime Minister addressing his people, but I'll do it into the camera, like a party political.
  • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

As such, the incumbent wields broad executive and legislative powers. .Under the British system, there is a unity of powers rather than separation.^ You perfectly mirror Thatcher and her followers, longing to be American, Israeli or some combination of the two rather than British.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Sir Humphrey, Power to the People British democracy recognises that you need a system to protect the important things of life, and keep them out of the hands of the barbarians.
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^ If the British continue to vote for parties with a propensity to redistribute wealth rather than create wealth then it is safe to say that the core British civilization is in terminal decline.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

[2] .However, many of these executive and legislative powers (called “royal prerogatives”) are still formally vested in the Head of State, the Sovereign.^ The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid.
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The Premiership was not intentionally created by a codified constitution on a certain date. The office evolved over three hundred years, gradually defined by customs known as conventions that became accepted practice.[3] .Until the 20th century, the relationship between the Prime Minister vis-a-vis the Sovereign, Parliament and Cabinet was defined entirely by these conventions.^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Well you could still be Prime Minister next century.
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^ All of this has been going on throughout the entire 20th century.
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Despite its growing dominance in the constitutional hierarchy, the Premiership was given little formal recognition; the legal fiction was maintained that the Sovereign still governed directly.[4]
.Under this arrangement, Britain appears to have two executives: the Prime Minister and Sovereign.^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ Your predecessor, the previous Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, has just died of a heart attack.
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^ And of course she was Britain’s first female prime minister – now we have the likes of Harriet Harman instead, how the world has changed for the worse.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

The concept of "the Crown" resolves this paradox.[5] The Crown symbolises the state’s authority to govern: to make laws and execute them, impose taxes and collect them, declare war and make peace. Before the Glorious Revolution of 1688, the Sovereign wore the Crown and exercised the powers it symbolises. Afterwards, Parliament gradually forced Sovereigns to assume a neutral political position. .Parliament placed the Crown in "commission", entrusting its authority to responsible Ministers (the Prime Minister and Cabinet), accountable for their policies and actions to Parliament and the people.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm Report comment Whatever one may think of Thatcher’s policies, she was a forthright prime minister with principals and people including the public knew where they stood with her.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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^ Chief Scientific Adviser, The Grand Design Bernard: Prime Minister, isn't conscription a rather courageous policy?
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.Although the Sovereign still wears the Crown and her prerogative powers are still legally intact, Parliament has removed her from everyday governance, leaving her in practice with three constitutional rights: to be kept informed, to advise, and to warn.^ Bernard: Yes you see, he is coming here wearing his head of government hat, he is the head of state too, but it's not a state visit because he's not wearing his head of state hat protocol demands that even though he's wearing his head of government hat, he must still be met by the crown.
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^ If one party has just over three hundred it forms a government, of that three hundred one hundred are too old and too silly, one hundred are too young and too callow which leaves just about a hundred MP's to fill one hundred governmental posts.
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^ I remember we had the three day week, power cuts…” That was the 1970-74 Heath government.
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[6][7]

Foundations of the office of Prime Minister: 1688–1720

Revolutionary settlement

Because the Premiership was not intentionally created, there is no exact date when its evolution began. A meaningful starting point, however, is 1688 when James II fled England. The throne being vacant, the Parliament of England confirmed William and Mary as England's joint constitutional monarchs, enacting legislation that limited their authority and that of their successors: the Bill of Rights (1689), the Mutiny Bill (1689), the Triennial Bill (1694), the Treason Act (1696) and the Act of Settlement (1701).[8] Known collectively as the Revolutionary Settlement, these acts transformed the constitution, shifting the balance of power from the Sovereign to Parliament. .They also provided the basis for the evolution of the office of Prime Minister, which did not exist at that time.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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The Treasury Bench

The Revolutionary Settlement gave the Commons control over finances and legislation and changed the relationship between the Executive and the Legislature. For want of money, Sovereigns had to summon Parliament annually and could no longer dissolve or prorogue it without its advice and consent. Parliament became a permanent feature of political life.[9] .The veto fell into disuse because Sovereigns feared that if they denied legislation, Parliament would deny them money.^ They don’t want to believe it because it would disrupt their own lives.
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^ McCain would be saddled with many of those of the present administration and their functionaries just because they are Republicans and would take much time and effort to weed out.
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No Sovereign has denied royal assent since Queen Anne vetoed the Scottish Militia Bill in 1708.[10]
Late in the 17th century Treasury Ministers began to attend the Commons regularly. They were given a reserved place, called the Treasury Bench, to the Speaker's right where the Prime Minister and senior Cabinet members sit today
Treasury officials and other department heads were drawn into Parliament serving as liaisons between it and the Sovereign. .Ministers had to present the government's policies, and negotiate with Members to gain the support of the majority; they had to explain the government’s financial needs, suggest ways of meeting them and give an account of how money had been spent.^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ I was surprised in a way about how much time McCain spent attacking Obama instead of answering the questions for what they were.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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The Sovereign’s representatives attended Commons sessions so regularly that they were given reserved seats at the front, known as the Treasury Bench. This is the beginning of "unity of powers": the Sovereign's Ministers (the Executive) became leading members of Parliament (the Legislature). .Today, the Prime Minister (First Lord of the Treasury), the Chancellor of the Exchequer (responsible for the budget) and other senior members of the Cabinet sit on the Treasury bench and present policies in much the same way Ministers did late in the 17th century.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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Standing Order 66

.After the Revolution, there was a constant threat that non-government members of Parliament would ruin the country's finances by proposing ill-considered money bills.^ The Right to Know Sir Humphrey: Bernard, this country is governed by Ministers making decisions from the various alternative proposals that we offer them, is it not?
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^ I cannot think of anyone in opposition now who would have even been considered for members of her Government.
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^ They want it because that is how they would like to run—or is it ruin?—this country.
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.Vying for control to avoid chaos, the Crown's Ministers gained an advantage in 1706 when the Commons informally declared, "That this House will receive no petition for any sum of money relating to public Service, but what is recommended from the Crown."^ Hers was the war against the unions, which cannot have had anything to do with monetarism, since the unions have never controlled the money supply.” No, but these self same unions were destroying the country and had to controlled.
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.On June 11, 1713, this non-binding rule became Standing Order 66: that “the Commons would not vote money for any purpose, except on a motion of a Minister of the Crown.” Standing Order 66 remains in effect today (though renumbered as no.^ Sir Humphrey: Yes, but even though they're probably certain you know you probably wouldn't they don't certainly know that although you probably wouldn't, there is no probability that you certainly would.
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48)[11], essentially unchanged for three hundred years.[12]
Empowering Ministers with sole financial initiative had an immediate and lasting impact. Apart from achieving its intended purpose – to stabilise the budgetary process – it gave the Crown a leadership role in the Commons; and, the Lord Treasurer assumed a leading position among Ministers.
The power of financial initiative was not, however, absolute. Only Ministers might initiate money bills, but Parliament now reviewed and consented to them. Standing Order 66 therefore represents the beginnings of Ministerial responsibility and accountability.[13]
.The term "Prime Minister" appears at this time as an unofficial title for the leader of the government, usually the head of the Treasury.^ Says: October 16th, 2009 at 10:27 am spain’s prime minister turned around in midflight and headed home about the same time the second plane struck WTC. .
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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[14] .Jonathan Swift, for example, wrote in 1713 about "those who are now commonly called Prime Minister among us", referring to Sidney Godolphin, 1st Earl of Godolphin and Robert Harley, Queen Anne's Lord Treasurers and chief ministers.^ How about this: Prime Minister Churchill vs. President Hoover.
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^ Thatcher once called the Queen “the sort of person who votes for the SDP”.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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[15] Since 1721, every head of the Sovereign's government – with one exception in the 18th century (William Pitt, the Elder) and one in the 19th (Lord Salisbury) – has been First Lord of the Treasury.

Beginnings of the Prime Minister's party leadership

.The modern Prime Minister is the leader of a major political party with millions of followers.^ The Ministerial Broadcast Jim: A party political spells instant boredom, I think it should be a Ministerial broadcast, you know, a Prime Minister addressing his people, but I'll do it into the camera, like a party political.
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^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
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^ RSS Feed Close Related Links Post Politics Post Opinions The Debate: The Prime Minister and the President .
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.In the general election of 1997, for example, 13.5 million people voted for the Labour Party led by Tony Blair; 9.6 million for the Conservative Party, led by John Major, the incumbent Prime Minister; and, 5.2 million for the Liberal Democrat Party led by Paddy Ashdown.^ If we had a Maggie leading the conservative party right now I would not hesitate to vote for her, and it is likely that she would have been too good in opposition for brown to have got us into this stew.
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^ For the naysayers Thatcher won her first election against the incompetent incumbent by 339 seats to 269, on an 8% swing, with 43% of the vote to labour’s 36%.
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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.Generally agreeing on policies, party leaders and their supporters suppress their differences of opinion at the polls for the sake of gaining a majority of seats in the Commons and being able to form a government.^ Cameroon has already shown his support for Labour policies on Climate, ‘Climategate’ the socialist state and Europe government.
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^ If one party has just over three hundred it forms a government, of that three hundred one hundred are too old and too silly, one hundred are too young and too callow which leaves just about a hundred MP's to fill one hundred governmental posts.
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^ "Osama bin laden and General Petraeus have something in common" so long as they both agree with McCain - whatever be their reasons for doing so.
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.Political parties first appeared during the Exclusion Crisis of 1678–1681. The Whigs, who believed in limited monarchy, wanted to exclude James Stuart from succeeding to the throne because he was a Catholic and espoused absolutist ideas about the Kingship.^ They don’t want to believe it because it would disrupt their own lives.
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The Tories, who believed in the "Divine Right of Kings", defended James' hereditary claim. .These parties dominated British politics for over 150 years, the Whigs generally being liberal; the Tories conservative.^ She was expelled from her own Right-wing Liberal Party as being racist, so she set up her own independent One Nation party.
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.Indeed, in the 19th century, the Whigs evolved into the Liberal Party; the Tories, the Conservative.^ If we had a Maggie leading the conservative party right now I would not hesitate to vote for her, and it is likely that she would have been too good in opposition for brown to have got us into this stew.
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Even today, Conservatives are often called "Tories".
.Political parties were not well organised or disciplined in the 17th century.^ Sir Humphrey: Well he probably thinks it's a religious ceremony, nobody has told him it's a party political.
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.They were more like factions with "members" drifting in and out, collaborating temporarily on issues when it was to their advantage, then disbanding when it was not.^ (A: Singapore or Dubai, if they’re lucky; more likely, able to consider the meaning of the phrase ’surplus value’ at their leisure…).
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^ Then they swoop down like Superman to blast his credibility out of the sky.
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.A major deterrent to the development of opposing parties was the idea that there could only be one: the “King’s Party”.^ On this showing one gets the feeling that Obama could grow with the job whereas McCain could only grow older.
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^ When one rolls their sleeves up, goes to work developing this statement only then can some serious progress be made.
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^ There really is just one soul, the Supreme Soul, as opposed to many individual souls.
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To oppose the King’s party was disloyal, even treasonous. This idea lingered throughout the 18th century. Nevertheless, it became possible at the end of the 17th century to identify Parliaments and Ministries as being either "Whig" or "Tory" in composition.

The early Cabinet

.The modern Prime Minister is also the leader of the Cabinet.^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
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A convention of the constitution, the modern Cabinet is a group of ministers — usually 22—who formulate policies. .For example, former Prime Minister Tony Blair’s first Cabinet from 1997 – 2001 consisted of 22 members.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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.As the political heads of government departments, Cabinet Ministers ensure that policies are carried out by permanent civil servants.^ Sir Humphrey: No, no Minister it would never be government policy, that is unthinkable, only government practice.
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^ I think that I must have hit the right nail on the head when I pointed out that the logic of those policies is that they would rather the poor were poorer.
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^ Bernard, The Bed of Nails Jim: So, the whole system is designed to stop the cabinet from carrying out its' policies.
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.Although the modern Prime Minister selects Ministers, the Sovereign still officially appoints them.^ Sir Humphrey: Well you could still be Prime Minister next century.
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^ The Danish Prime Minister was not the only high-level official to receive advance knowledge that the World Trade Center was going to collapse.
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^ Jim, The Tangled Web I, I Prime Minister am merely a humble servant, a lowly official.
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With the Prime Minister as its leader, the Cabinet forms the "executive branch".[16]
.The term "Cabinet" first appears after the Revolutionary Settlement to describe those ministers who conferred privately with the Sovereign.^ Sir Humphrey, The Right to Know Sir Humphrey: There are those who have argued, and indeed cogently, that on occasion there are some things it is better for a Minister not to know.
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The growth of the Cabinet met with widespread complaint and opposition because its meetings were often held in secret and it excluded the ancient Privy Council from the Sovereign's circle of advisers, reducing it to an honorary body.[17] .The early Cabinet included the Treasurer and other department heads who sat on the Treasury bench as it does today.^ Jim: And who does run this Department?
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However, it might also include individuals who were not members of Parliament such as household officers (i.e. the Master of the Horse) and members of the royal family. The exclusion of non-members of Parliament from the Cabinet was essential to the development of ministerial accountability and responsibility.
Early in his reign, William (1688–1702) preferred "Mixed Ministries" consisting of both Tories and Whigs. .This approach did not work well because these Cabinets had no leader and Ministers worked at odds with each other.^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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^ These women represent the harlot because as leaders of their countries they succeeded in making the nations of the world partake in her fornications, enjoying her luxuries and assisting her to condemn others to a life of poverty and starvation.
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This has been the case ever since. .Mixed Ministries (Coalitions) have rarely been effective under the British system, except in times of crisis such as the Great War (1914–1918) and World War II (1939–1945).^ Churchill was merely a great war leader, and hopeless in almost all his non war time roles.
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^ For the first time ever a world war will be fought on America’s soil.
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[18]
.Mixed Ministries having failed, William formed a homogeneous Whig ministry in 1697 known as the Junto, often cited as the first true Cabinet because its members were all Whigs, reflecting the majority composition of the Commons.^ First, because that is his job as an elected member of the Senate.
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[19] Anne (1702–1714) followed this pattern but preferred Tory Cabinets. This approach worked well as long as Parliament was also Tory. In 1702, the Tories dominated the Commons. .However, in 1708, when the Whigs obtained a majority, Anne did not call on them to form a government; she refused to admit that politicians could force themselves on her merely because their party had a majority.^ And even Obama in his remarks today admitted he did better letting others work it out and just calling him if he's needed.
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^ If one party has just over three hundred it forms a government, of that three hundred one hundred are too old and too silly, one hundred are too young and too callow which leaves just about a hundred MP's to fill one hundred governmental posts.
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^ If certain industries had previously only survived because they lived off the proceeds of money taken by force by the government, or through other forms of interference by the government, then their demise was an unambiguous benefit.
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[20] She never parted with an entire Ministry or accepted an entirely new one regardless of the results of an election. .Consequently, although Anne's chief ministers Sidney Godolphin, 1st Earl of Godolphin and Robert Harley led their Cabinets and were called "Prime Minister" by some, they had difficulty executing policy in the face of a hostile Parliament.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm Report comment Whatever one may think of Thatcher’s policies, she was a forthright prime minister with principals and people including the public knew where they stood with her.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ Chief Scientific Adviser, The Grand Design Bernard: Prime Minister, isn't conscription a rather courageous policy?
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[21] .It was not until the 1830s that the constitutional convention was established that the Sovereign must select Prime Ministers and the Cabinet from the party whose views reflect those of the majority in Parliament.^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ Sir Humphrey, The Tangled Web With respect Prime Minister, you must learn discretion.
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[22]
Both William and Anne appointed and dismissed Cabinet members, attended meetings, made decisions, and followed up on actions. Relieving the Sovereign of these responsibilities and gaining control over the Cabinet's composition was an essential part of evolution of the Premiership.
This process began after the Hanoverian Succession. Although George I (1714–1727) attended Cabinet meetings at first, after 1717 he withdrew because he did not speak English and was bored with the discussions. .George II (1727–1760) occasionally presided at Cabinet meetings but his grandson, George III (1760–1820), is known to have attended only two during his 60 year reign.^ Official Secrets Jim: I have decided that the only solution is for me to have a summit meeting with the French President and sort it out myself.
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Thus, the convention that Sovereigns do not attend Cabinet meetings was established primarily through royal indifference to the everyday tasks of governance. .The Prime Minister became responsible for calling meetings, presiding, taking notes, and reporting to the Sovereign.^ How about this: Prime Minister Churchill vs. President Hoover.
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^ Kissinger did not call for such meetings to be between the two presidents.
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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.These simple executive tasks naturally gave the Prime Minister ascendancy over his Cabinet colleagues.^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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[23]
.Although the first three Hanoverians rarely attended Cabinet meetings, they insisted on their prerogatives to appoint and dismiss ministers and to direct policy even if from outside the Cabinet.^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ Although a strong leader, she was a divisive and very controversial one, leading the Church (even) to question her policies on the inner cities, for instance.
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.It was not until late in the 18th century that Prime Ministers gained control over Cabinet composition (see section Emergence of Cabinet Government: Pitt and Liverpool (1784–1830) below).^ Obama showed balance, self-control, knowledge of the issues and prudence not to rush to judgement until seeing the facts.
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Well you know Minister, emergency government headquarters, if and when.
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The Treasury Commission: 1714

.The Premiership is still largely a convention of the constitution; its legal authority is derived primarily from the fact that the Prime Minister is also First Lord of the Treasury.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ Sir Humphrey: Well you could still be Prime Minister next century.
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The connection of these two offices – one a convention, the other a legal office – began with the Hanoverian Succession in 1714.
.When George I succeeded to the English throne in 1714, his German ministers advised him to leave the office of Lord High Treasurer vacant because those who had held it in recent years had grown overly powerful, in effect, replacing the Sovereign as head of the government.^ You are asking who would know what it is that I don't know and you don't know, but the Foreign Office know that they know, that they are keeping from you so that you don't know but they do know, and all we know is that there is something we don't know but we want to know but we don't know what because we don't know.
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^ McCain lost last night's debate in the eyes of those who will decide this election, the undecideds because of his clear disdain for Obama.
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^ Jim: Because I'm the only one member of the government who can't be sent to Northern Ireland next week.
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They also feared that a Lord High Treasurer would undermine their own influence with the new King. They therefore suggested that he place the office in "commission', meaning that a committee of five ministers would perform its functions together. Theoretically, this dilution of authority would prevent any one of them from presuming to be the head of the government. .The King agreed and created the Treasury Commission consisting of the First Lord of the Treasury, the Second Lord, and three Junior Lords.^ Would you agree that wealth must first be created before it can be redistributed (even if we borrow it from the future on the promise to repay it with wealth still to be created)?
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.No one has been appointed Lord High Treasurer since 1714; it has remained in commission for three hundred years.^ Now if I was a job I could whiz old Humpy to the Scrubs no trouble, feet wouldn't touch, clang bang, see you in three years time, one third remission for good conduct - I can't do that.
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^ If one party has just over three hundred it forms a government, of that three hundred one hundred are too old and too silly, one hundred are too young and too callow which leaves just about a hundred MP's to fill one hundred governmental posts.
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.The Treasury Commission ceased to meet late in the 18th century but has survived, albeit with very different functions: the First Lord of the Treasury is now the Prime Minister, the Second Lord is the Chancellor of the Exchequer (and actually in charge of the Treasury), and the Junior Lords are government Whips maintaining party discipline in the House of Commons; they no longer have any duties related to the Treasury, though when subordinate legislation requires the consent of the Treasury it is still two of the Junior Lords who sign on its behalf.^ Bernard: Oh, I'm sorry to be pedantic Prime Minister, but they can't beat you over the head if they're on their knees, ah unless of course (kneels on floor, raises arm) they've got very long arms, or unless ...
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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[24][25]

Early Prime Ministers: 1720–1784

The "first" Prime Minister - Walpole (1720–1742)

.Since the office was not created, there is no "first" Prime Minister.^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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However, the honorary appellation is traditionally given to Sir Robert Walpole who became First Lord of the Treasury in 1721.
Portrait of Sir Robert Walpole, studio of Jean-Baptiste van Loo, 1740. Walpole is considered to be the "First" Prime Minister.
In 1720, the South Sea Company, created to trade in cotton, agricultural goods and slaves, collapsed, causing the financial ruin of thousands of investors and heavy losses for many others including members of the royal family. King George I called on Robert Walpole, well-known for his political and financial acumen, to handle the emergency. With considerable skill and some luck, Walpole acted quickly to restore public credit and confidence, and led the country out of the crisis. .A year later, the King appointed him First Lord of the Treasury, Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Leader of the House of Commons making him the most powerful minister in the government.^ The Smoke Screen Jim: Tell the Minister that I will see him at the house at 2.30 for ten minutes.
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^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ The Right to Know Sir Humphrey: Bernard, this country is governed by Ministers making decisions from the various alternative proposals that we offer them, is it not?
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Ruthless, crude, and hard-working, he had a "sagacious business sense" and was a superb manager of men.[26] At the head of affairs for the next two decades, Walpole stabilised the nation's finances, kept it at peace, made it prosperous, and secured the Hanoverian Succession.[27]
.Walpole demonstrated for the first time how a chief minister – a Prime Minister – could be the actual Head of the Government under the new constitutional framework.^ How about this: Prime Minister Churchill vs. President Hoover.
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^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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.First, recognising that the Sovereign could no longer govern directly but was still the nominal head of the government, he insisted that he was nothing more than the "King's Servant".[28] Second, recognising that power had shifted to the Commons, he conducted the nation's business there and made it dominant over the Lords in all matters.^ Should Gordon Brown have to leave Dowining Street next year, Britain wouldn’t be stronger, but much weaker than in 1997 when New Labour policians began to govern what still was a great European nation then.
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^ Is it just me who finds the irony that you have no self respect highlighted by yourself on a blog about a Lady who had more self-respect than you could ever imagine.
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^ There has rarely been a more Stalinist piece of legislation in this country, what happened to small government and individual responsibilty there?
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Third, recognising that the Cabinet had become the executive and must be united, he dominated the other members and demanded their complete support for his policies. Fourth, recognising that political parties were the source of ministerial strength, he led the Whig party and maintained discipline. .In the Commons, he insisted on the support of all Whig members, especially those who held office.^ All the emphasis has been on those who merely move it around, helping themselves to it as they do so.
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^ She did very well for those who supported her but came across as horrifically uncaring towards everyone else.
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^ Yes, all those inconveniences were during the Heath government but it was Mrs.T who put and end to them wasn’t it.
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.Finally, he set an example for future Prime Ministers by resigning his offices in 1742 when he no longer had the confidence of a majority, even though he still retained the confidence of the Sovereign.^ Would you agree that wealth must first be created before it can be redistributed (even if we borrow it from the future on the promise to repay it with wealth still to be created)?
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^ Soros and partners finally brought her down because she no longer was in sync with what the bankers and large corporations wanted.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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[29][30]

Ambivalence and denial: 1742–1784

.For all his contributions, Walpole was not a Prime Minister in the modern sense.^ Sir Humphrey, The Grand Design General: At last, I have actually come across a Prime Minister with a bit of sense.
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The King chose him, not Parliament; and the King chose the Cabinet, not Walpole. Walpole set an example, not a precedent, and few followed his example. .For over 40 years after Walpole's fall in 1742, there was widespread ambivalence about the position.^ There are many other aspects of any “Thatcherism” properly so called, and they all present her in about as positive a light.
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.In some cases, the Prime Minister was a figurehead with power being wielded by other individuals; in others there was a reversion to the "chief minister" model of earlier times in which the Sovereign actually governed.^ Open Government Bernard: It used to be said there were two kinds of chairs to go with two kinds of Minister, one sort folds up instantly the other sort goes round and round in circles.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Quite so, perhaps there are some things it is better for a Minister not to know.
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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[31] .Furthermore, many thought that the title "Prime Minister" usurped the Sovereign's constitutional position as "head of the government" and that it was an affront to other ministers because they were all appointed by and equally responsible to the Sovereign.^ There are many other aspects of any “Thatcherism” properly so called, and they all present her in about as positive a light.
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^ Bernard: Oh, I'm sorry to be pedantic Prime Minister, but they can't beat you over the head if they're on their knees, ah unless of course (kneels on floor, raises arm) they've got very long arms, or unless ...
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^ Sir Humphrey, Equal Opportunities Sir Humphrey: Now Minister, if you going to promote women just because they're the best person for the job you will create a lot of resentment throughout the whole of the Civil Service.
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For these reasons there was a reluctance to use the title. .Although Walpole is now called the "first" Prime Minister, the title was not commonly used during his tenure.^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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Walpole himself denied it. .In 1741, during the attack that led to Walpole's downfall, Sandys declared that "According to our Constitution we can have no sole and prime minister ..."^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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.In his defense, Walpole said "I unequivocally deny that I am sole or Prime Minister and that to my influence and direction all the affairs of government must be attributed."^ A Real Partnership My dear Frank, I defended you gallantly, leaving the Prime Minister in no doubt as to the real cause of the rush.
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^ As I tried to prove when I wrote some of my earlier comments on this thread, as Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher has never been anti-German.
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^ Sir Humphrey: I think he said, yes Prime Minister.
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[32] .During Britain's participation in the Seven Years War the powers of government were divided equally between the Duke of Newcastle and William Pitt, 1st Earl of Chatham leading to them both alternatively being described as Prime Minister.^ Both were fully sponsored by the government, and especially by the Prime Minister, of the day.
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^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Equal Opportunities Jim: Surely you're not saying that the government of Britain is unimportant?
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.George Grenville, Prime Minister in the 1760s, said it was "an odious title" and never used it.^ As I tried to prove when I wrote some of my earlier comments on this thread, as Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher has never been anti-German.
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^ Sir Humphrey: I think he said, yes Prime Minister.
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^ The Prime Minister is aware that I detest every single one of her domestic policies, and I have never hidden that fact.
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[33] Lord North, the reluctant head of the King's Government during the American War of Independence, "would never suffer himself to be called Prime Minister, because it was an office unknown to the Constitution."[34][35]
Denials of the Premiership's legal existence continued throughout the 19th century. .In 1806, for example, one member of the Commons said, "the Constitution abhors the idea of a prime minister". In 1829 another said, "nothing could be more mischievous or unconstitutional than to recognize by act of parliament the existence of such an office."^ Which is more than can be said of any of her successors.
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^ They both in their own ways are probably decent men, but neither one has enough fire in his belly to be more than mediocre.
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^ Is it just me who finds the irony that you have no self respect highlighted by yourself on a blog about a Lady who had more self-respect than you could ever imagine.
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By the turn of the 20th century the Premiership had become, by convention, the most important position in the constitutional hierarchy. Yet there were no legal documents describing its powers or acknowledging its existence. Incumbents had no statutory authority in their own right. .As late as 1904, Arthur Balfour explained the status of his office in a speech at Haddington: "The Prime Minister has no salary as Prime Minister.^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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.He has no statutory duties as Prime Minister, his name occurs in no Acts of Parliament, and though holding the most important place in the constitutional hierarchy, he has no place which is recognized by the laws of his country.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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This is a strange paradox."[36]
.In 1905 the position was given some official recognition when the "Prime Minister" was named in the order of precedence, outranked, among non-royals, only by the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, the Moderator of the Church of Scotland and the Lord Chancellor.^ The Tangled Web I am sorry Prime Minister, I cannot become involved in some shabby coverup.
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ As I tried to prove when I wrote some of my earlier comments on this thread, as Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher has never been anti-German.
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[37]
.The first Act of Parliament to mention the Premiership was the Chequers Estate Act on 20 December 1917.[38] This law conferred the Chequers Estate owned by Sir Arthur and Lady Lee, as a gift to the Crown for use as a country home for future Prime Ministers.^ Yes, that’s the Lady; and what a Prime Prime minister she was.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Commonwealth countries, Prime Minister.
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^ Sir Humphrey: (surprised) Prime Minister.
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Unequivocal legal recognition was given in the Ministers of the Crown Act (1937) which made provision for paying a salary to the person who is both "the First Lord of the Treasury and Prime Minister". Explicitly recognising two hundred years' of ambivalence, the act states that it intended "To give statutory recognition to the existence of the position of Prime Minister, and to the historic link between the Premiership and the office of First Lord of the Treasury, by providing in respect to that position and office a salary of ..." The Act made a distinction between the "position" (Prime Minister) and the "office" (First Lord of the Treasury), emphasising the unique political character of the former. .Nevertheless, the brass plate on the door of the Prime Minister's home, 10 Downing Street, still bears the title of "First Lord of the Treasury", as it has since the 18th century.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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"First among equals": 1784–1911

Emergence of Cabinet government: Pitt and Liverpool (1784–1830)

Despite the reluctance to legally recognise the Premiership, ambivalence toward it waned in the 1780s. As noted previously, George III (1760–1820) is known to have attended only two Cabinet meetings. .However, during the first twenty years of his reign, he tried to be his own "prime minister" by controlling policy from outside the Cabinet, appointing and dismissing ministers, meeting privately with individual ministers, and giving them instructions.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Chief Scientific Adviser, The Grand Design Bernard: Prime Minister, isn't conscription a rather courageous policy?
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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.These practices caused confusion and dissention in Cabinet meetings, especially during the dysfunctional ministries of the Earl of Chatham from 1766–1768 and of the Duke of Grafton from 1768-1770 when no one, not even the King, seemed to be in charge.^ One of these principles is that no nation should invade a foreign country’s territory to increase its own might and power.
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^ Besides, no one is perfect – even the best PMs like Thatcher make their mistakes.
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^ One of these principles is that no nation should invade a foreign country’s territory to increase its own might and power.” .
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[39]
.After the failure of Lord North's ministry (1770–1782) in March 1782 due to Britain's defeat in the American Revolutionary War and the ensuing vote of no confidence by Parliament, the Marquess of Rockingham reasserted the Prime Minister's control over the Cabinet.^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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.Rockingham assumed the Premiership "on the distinct understanding that measures were to be changed as well as men; and that the measures for which the new ministry required the royal consent were the measures which they, while in opposition, had advocated."^ Agnes: Well of course they would if the understand, but ordinary voters are simple people.
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.He and his Cabinet were united in their policies and would stand or fall together; they also refused to accept anyone in the Cabinet who did not agree.^ Even those who disagree with Obama agree that he is methodical and understands our economic and foreign policy challenges.
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^ Sir Humphrey: That's only because you threatened to dismiss anyone who wouldn't agree.
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^ I do not believe anyone who says they are Democrats and voting for McCain, neither does anyone else.
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[40] King George threatened to abdicate but in the end reluctantly agreed out of necessity: he had to have a government.
.From this time, there was a growing acceptance of the position of Prime Minister and the title was more commonly used, if only unofficially.^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ The Tangled Web Bernard: You could say the Prime Minister knows more about it than you do.
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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[21][41] Associated initially with the Whigs, even the Tories started to accept it. .Lord North, for example, who had said the office was "unknown to the constitution", reversed himself in 1783 when he said, "In this country some one man or some body of men like a Cabinet should govern the whole and direct every measure."^ She is outright scary to be in a number 2 spot, when the number 1 spot has a grumpy old man with skin cancer who has already put one foot in the grave and the other foot on a bar of soap.
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^ The man who for years imprisoned thousands of U.S. citizens--men, women, and children--in internment camps?
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^ Unfortunately, he was channeling the Reagan who died of Alzheimer's disease, not the man who said, "Mr.
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[42][43] In 1803, William Pitt the Younger, also a Tory, suggested to a friend that "this person generally called the first minister" was an absolute necessity for a government to function, and expressed his belief that this person should be the minister in charge of the finances.[32]
William Pitt the Younger in front of the Treasury Bench addressing the House of Commons. Pitt's 19 year ministry followed by Lord Liverpool's 15, led the Tory Party to accept the office of Prime Minister as a convention of the constitution.
.The Tories' wholesale conversion started when Pitt was confirmed as Prime Minister in the election of 1784. For the next 17 years until 1801 (and again from 1804 to 1806), Pitt, the Tory, was Prime Minister in the same sense that Walpole, the Whig, had been earlier.^ Sir Humphrey: Well you could still be Prime Minister next century.
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^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
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.Their conversion was reinforced after 1810. In that year, George III, who had suffered periodically from mental instability (due to a blood disorder now known as porphyria), became permanently insane and spent the remaining 10 years of his life unable to discharge his duties.^ But she carried out her duties with dignity, integrity and honesty unlike the idiotic shower who have presided over us in the last 13 years.
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^ Look at the people who are now, after 30 years of the country that she created.
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^ But more to the point, after 8 years of George Bush, who could seriously be thinking of voting republican?!!
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The Prince Regent was prevented from using the full powers of Kingship. .The Regent became King George IV in 1820, but during his 10 year reign was indolent and frivolous.^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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.Consequently, for 20 years the throne was virtually vacant and Tory Cabinets led by Tory Prime Ministers filled the void, governing virtually on their own.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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.The Tories were in power for almost 50 years, except for a short Whig ministry from 1806 to 1807. Lord Liverpool was Prime Minister for 15 years; he and Pitt held the position for 34 years.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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Under their long, consistent leadership, Cabinet government became a convention of the constitution. Although subtle issues remained to be settled, the Cabinet system of government is essentially the same today as it was in 1830.
.Under this form of government, called the Westminster System, the Sovereign is Head of State and titular head of Her Majesty's Government.^ Sir Humphrey: [shakes his head] - Open Government Sir Humphrey: Her Majesty does like the business of government to continue even when there are no politicians around.
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.She selects as her Prime Minister the person who is able to command a working majority in the House of Commons, and invites him to form a government.^ The Smoke Screen Jim: Tell the Minister that I will see him at the house at 2.30 for ten minutes.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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.As the actual Head of Government, the Prime Minister selects his Cabinet, choosing its members from among those in Parliament who agree or generally agree with his intended policies.^ Jim: Because I'm the only one member of the government who can't be sent to Northern Ireland next week.
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^ Sir Humphrey: No, no Minister it would never be government policy, that is unthinkable, only government practice.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, it is the most courageous policy that you have ever proposed.
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He then recommends them to the Sovereign who confirms his selections by formally appointing them to their respective offices. .Led by the Prime Minister, the Cabinet is collectively responsible for everything the government does.^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ Bernard: I don't know specifically what, Prime Minister, but I do know that the Foreign Office keep everything for everybody.
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^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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The Sovereign does not confer with its members privately about policy or attend its meetings. .With respect to actual governance, the monarch has only three constitutional rights: to be kept informed, to advise, and to warn.^ The Right to Know Actually it's only the urban middle class who worry about the preservation of the countryside, because they don't have to live in it.
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[44] .In practice this means that the Sovereign reviews state papers and meets regularly with the Prime Minister, usually weekly, when she may advise and warn him regarding the proposed decisions and actions of Her Government.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ The Right to Know Sir Humphrey: Bernard, this country is governed by Ministers making decisions from the various alternative proposals that we offer them, is it not?
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[45]

The Loyal Opposition

.The modern British system includes not only a government formed by the majority party (or coalition of parties) in the House of Commons but also an organised and open opposition formed by those who are not members of the governing party.^ Open Government Jim: Who else is in this department?
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^ Jim: Because I'm the only one member of the government who can't be sent to Northern Ireland next week.
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^ Then, from here to Saint Helena and everywhere else where it is applicable, those of us who want to be British can get on with being British, no longer troubled either by them or by you.
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.Called the Loyal Opposition (or "Her Majesty's Opposition"), they occupy the benches to the Speaker's left.^ Annie: No of course not silly of me they're just called the opposition.
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.Seated in the front, directly across from the ministers on the Treasury Bench, the leaders of the opposition form a "Shadow Government", complete with a salaried "Shadow Prime Minister", the Leader of the Opposition, ready to assume office if the government falls or loses the next election.^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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The House of Commons early 19th century. The Loyal Opposition occupy the benches to the Speaker's left. Seated in the front, the leaders of the opposition form a "Shadow Government", complete with a salaried "Shadow Prime Minister" ready to assume office if the government falls or loses the next election.
.Opposing the King's government was considered disloyal, even treasonous, at the end of the seventeenth century.^ I cannot think of anyone in opposition now who would have even been considered for members of her Government.
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During the eighteenth century, this idea waned and finally disappeared as the two party system developed. The expression "His Majesty's Opposition" was coined by John Cam Hobhouse, Lord Broughton. In 1826, Broughton, a Whig, announced in the Commons that he opposed the report of a Bill. As a joke, he said, "It was said to be very hard on His Majesty's ministers to raise objections to this proposition. For my part, I think it is much more hard on His Majesty's Opposition to compel them to take this course." [46][47] The phrase caught on and has been used ever since. Sometimes translated as the "Loyal Opposition", it acknowledges the legitimate existence of the two party system, and describes an important constitutional concept: opposing the government is not treason; reasonable men can honestly oppose its policies and still be loyal to the Sovereign and the nation.
Informally recognised for over a century as a convention of the constitution, the position of Leader of the Opposition was given statutory recognition in 1937 by the Ministers of the Crown Act. .The current Leader Opposition is David Cameron, leader of the Conservative Party.^ If we had a Maggie leading the conservative party right now I would not hesitate to vote for her, and it is likely that she would have been too good in opposition for brown to have got us into this stew.
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The Great Reform Bill and the Premiership: Grey

.British Prime Ministers have never been elected directly by the public.^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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^ As I tried to prove when I wrote some of my earlier comments on this thread, as Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher has never been anti-German.
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^ The Prime Minister is aware that I detest every single one of her domestic policies, and I have never hidden that fact.
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.They have all become Prime Minister indirectly because firstly, they were members of either the Commons or Lords; secondly, they were the leader of a great political party; and, thirdly, they either inherited a majority in the Commons, or won more seats than the opposition in a general election.^ They both in their own ways are probably decent men, but neither one has enough fire in his belly to be more than mediocre.
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^ Think about it – if your employer found that the value of the output of your labour was less than what they could sell it for, are you likely to become richer or poorer?
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^ If, as David Lindsay suggests, you believe there is nothing wrong with union leaders being household names, you have no appreciation of why they were so well-known and therefore no appreciation of what was required of whoever won the election in 79.
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Lord Grey, often called the first modern Prime Minister
Inscription on Grey Monument, Newcastle Upon Tyne, England (click image to enlarge)
.Since 1722, most Prime Ministers have been members of the Commons; since 1902, all have had a seat there.^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ There was a side to her that loved paperwork: remember all that stuff about how she stayed up most of the night working on her files?
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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[48] .Like other members, they are elected initially to represent only a constituency.^ It is of course thoroughly characteristic of constituencies like that they are, among other things, largely Catholic.
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^ The Ministerial Broadcast Politicians are like children, you can't give them what they want, it only encourages them.
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^ All they're interested in is poaching each others members and getting themselves on the telly, and they can't keep their big mouths shut.
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.Former Prime Minister Tony Blair, for example, represented Sedgefield in County Durham from 1983 to 2007. He became Prime Minister because in 1994 he was elected Labour Party leader and then led the party to victory in the 1997 general election, winning 418 seats compared to 165 for the Conservatives and gaining a majority in the House of Commons.^ For the naysayers Thatcher won her first election against the incompetent incumbent by 339 seats to 269, on an 8% swing, with 43% of the vote to labour’s 36%.
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ Her party was financed, just like New Labour’s, by the debt of future generations.
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.Neither the Sovereign nor the House of Lords had any meaningful influence over who was elected to the Commons in 1997 or in deciding whether or not Blair would become Prime Minister.^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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.Their detachment from the electoral process and the selection of the Prime Minister has been a convention of the constitution for almost 200 years.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Announcer: So Jim Hacker's back with an increased majority and after many years as a shadow Minister seems almost certain to get a post in the new government.
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^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister .
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.Prior to the 19th century, however, they had significant influence, using to their advantage the fact that most citizens were disenfranchised and seats in the Commons were allocated disproportionately.^ Sir Humphrey: Buranda is what was used to be called an under-developed country, however this term was largely regarded as offensive, so they became known as developing countries and then as less developed countries or LDC's.
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The system was based on legislation passed in 1429 and virtually unchanged for 400 years.[49][50] In 1832, only 440,000 met the voter qualifications in a population of 17 million. Although populations shifted, representation in the Commons remained the same. Consequently, some constituencies were over-represented; others under-represented. .Through patronage, corruption and bribery, the Crown and Lords “owned” about 30% of the seats (called “pocket” or “rotten boroughs”) giving them a significant influence in the Commons and in the selection of the Prime Minister.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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[51][52]
.In 1830, Charles Grey, a life-long Whig, became Prime Minister determined to reform the electoral system.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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.For two years, he and his Cabinet (including four future Prime Ministers – Melbourne, Russell, Palmerston and Derby – and one former one, Goderich) fought to pass what has come to be known as the Great Reform Bill of 1832.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ A right that has been fought for over many years and only recently came to pass.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm Report comment Whatever one may think of Thatcher’s policies, she was a forthright prime minister with principals and people including the public knew where they stood with her.
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[53][54]
The greatness of the Great Reform Bill lay less in substance than symbolism. As John Bright, the liberal statesman of the next generation, said, "It was not a good Bill, but it was a great Bill when it passed." [55]
Substantively, it increased the franchise 65% to 717,000 with the middle class receiving most of the new votes. The representation of 56 rotten boroughs was eliminated completely and half the representation of 30 others; the freed up seats were distributed to boroughs created for previously disenfranchised areas. .However, many rotten boroughs remained and it still excluded millions of working class men and all women.^ Economic freedom was enhanced for entrepreneurs, and the aspiring working class, thereby, but many also lost their jobs in the closure of many northern heavy industries.
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^ So many people are still enthralled by Obama's ability to use language to work his way around issues.
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[56][57]
Symbolically, the Bill exceeded expectations and is now ranked with Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights as one of the most important pieces of legislation ever passed by Parliament.
.First, the Great Reform Bill removed the Sovereign from the election process and the choice of Prime Minister.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ David Lindsay on Dec 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pm Report comment She was , without doubt one of the great “3″ Prime Ministers of the past century.
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^ Broken record on Dec 30th, 2009 at 6:59 pm Report comment Mrs Thatcher was an above-average Prime Minister but not a great one.
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Slowly evolving for 100 years, this convention was confirmed two years after the passage of the bill. In 1834 King William IV dismissed Melbourne as Premier, but was forced to recall him when Robert Peel, the King's choice, could not form a working majority. .Since then, no Sovereign has tried to impose a Prime Minister on Parliament.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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.Second, the Bill reduced the Lords' power by eliminating many of their pocket boroughs and creating new ones where they had no influence.^ The Conservatives assured us that they had no plans to double VAT, but it wednt up from 8 to 15% in Geoffrey Howe’s second budget.
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^ One of these principles is that no nation should invade a foreign country’s territory to increase its own might and power.
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^ Remove or reduce the willing buyer or willing seller’s portion of the new wealth and the transaction does not occur and no new wealth is created for anyone.
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Weakened, they were unable to prevent the passage of more comprehensive electoral reforms in 1867, 1884, 1918 and 1928 when universal equal suffrage was achieved.[58]
.
Disraeli and Gladstone Race to Pass the Reform Bill, Punch, 1867 The rivalry between Disraeli and Gladstone helped to identify the position of Prime Minister with specific personalities.
^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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(Disraeli is in the lead looking back over his shoulder at Gladstone.)
.Ultimately, this erosion of power led to the Parliament Act of 1911 that marginalised the Lords' role in the legislative process and to the convention that a Prime Minister cannot sit in the House of Lords.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
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^ Phil Kean on Dec 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm Report comment Yes Beaton that Thatcher – condemn her for her policies but in the role of Prime Minister ?
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The last to do so was Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury, from 1895 to 1902.[59]
Grey's bearing changed the Premiership. .Often called the first "modern Prime Minister", he set both an example and a precedent for his successors.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ Sir Humphrey, The Bed of Nails Jim: Will you please recommend to the Prime Minister that we set up an immediate Leak Inquiry.
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^ Both were fully sponsored by the government, and especially by the Prime Minister, of the day.
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.He was primus inter pares, "first among equals", as Bagehot said in 1867 of the Prime Minister's status.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ And of course she was Britain’s first female prime minister – now we have the likes of Harriet Harman instead, how the world has changed for the worse.
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^ This harlot is symbolic of the Statue of Liberty, the Queen of England, Golda Meir, the Prime Minister of Israel.
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Using his Whig victory as a mandate for reform, Grey was unrelenting in the pursuit of this goal, using every Parliamentary device to achieve it. .Although respectful toward the King, he made it clear that his constitutional duty was to acquiesce to the will of the people and Parliament.^ And the utterances of most of John Major’s closest allies on Blair’s wars made it perfectly clear where he himself stood, although he should have said it himself.
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The Loyal Opposition acquiesced too. .Some disgruntled Tories claimed they would repeal the Bill once they regained a majority.^ What Obama did do early this week--and in his response--was lay out the major things the bill would have to include in order for him to support it.
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^ Once they start to talk about the gap, they would rather that the gap were that—[indicating[—down here, not this—[indicating[—but—[indicating.
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.But in 1834, Robert Peel, the new Conservative leader, put an end to this threat when he stated in his Tamworth Manifesto that the Bill was "a final and irrevocable settlement of a great constitutional question which no friend to the peace and welfare of this country would attempt to disturb".[60] Thus, Peel affirmed a convention of the constitution that promotes stability in the British system: the Parliament of the day must respect the settlement of constitutional issues made by previous Parliaments.^ Her presence in office when that Union happened to collapse may have been coincidental, but it would have been delayed for a very very long time without strong conservative leaders in the west.
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^ Whether or not she stood for the country’s friends, she stood for the country’s economic interests and if it had not been so badly run before she took office, as it has been again in the last decade, the reparation would not have been so severe.
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^ If somebody tells me UK is a peace-loving country, I would laugh too.
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Populist Prime Ministers: Disraeli and Gladstone

Prime Minister William Gladstone cultivated the public image as a man of the people by circulating pictures like this of himself cutting down oak trees with an axe.
.The Premiership was a reclusive office prior to 1832. The incumbent worked with his Cabinet and other government officials; he occasionally met with the Sovereign, and attended Parliament when it was in session during the spring and summer.^ We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiations and work it out with other countries and with our own government."
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.He never went out on the stump to campaign, even during elections; he rarely spoke directly to ordinary voters about policies and issues.^ During the debate, Senator McCain hammered at Obama's "naivete" about foreign policy.
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.After the passage of the Great Reform Bill, the nature of the position changed; Prime Ministers had to go out among the people.^ David Lindsay on Dec 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pm Report comment She was , without doubt one of the great “3″ Prime Ministers of the past century.
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^ Broken record on Dec 30th, 2009 at 6:59 pm Report comment Mrs Thatcher was an above-average Prime Minister but not a great one.
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^ And of course she was Britain’s first female prime minister – now we have the likes of Harriet Harman instead, how the world has changed for the worse.
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.The Bill increased the electorate to 717,000. Subsequent legislation (and population growth) raised it to 2 million in 1867, 5.5 million in 1884 and 21.4 million in 1918. As the franchise increased, power shifted to the people and Prime Ministers assumed more responsibilities with respect to party leadership.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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It naturally fell on them to motivate and organise their followers, explain party policies, and deliver its “message”. Successful leaders had to have a new set of skills: to give a good speech, present a favourable image, and interact with a crowd. They became the "voice", the “face” and the "image" of the party and ministry.
Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli cultivated a public image as an Imperialist with grand gestures such as conferring on Victoria the title “Empress of India”.
.Robert Peel, often called the “model Prime Minister”,[61] was the first to recognise this new role.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ And of course she was Britain’s first female prime minister – now we have the likes of Harriet Harman instead, how the world has changed for the worse.
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^ Phil Kean on Dec 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm Report comment Yes Beaton that Thatcher – condemn her for her policies but in the role of Prime Minister ?
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.After the successful Conservative campaign of 1841, J. W. Croker said in a letter to Peel, "The elections are wonderful, and the curiosity is that all turns on the name of Sir Robert Peel.^ All in all, she turned Britain into the country that Marxists had always said it was, even though, before her, it never actually had been.
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^ I am copying all his posts for the election campaign he is to fight,to show us locals” .
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'It's the first time that I remember in our history that the people have chosen the first Minister for the Sovereign. Mr. Pitt's case in '84 is the nearest analogy; but then the people only confirmed the Sovereign's choice; here every Conservative candidate professed himself in plain words to be Sir Robert Peel's man, and on that ground was elected." [62]
Benjamin Disraeli and William Gladstone developed this new role further by projecting "images" of themselves to the public. Known by their nicknames “Dizzy” and the “Grand Old Man”, their colourful, sometimes bitter, personal and political rivalry over the issues of their time – Imperialism vs. Anti-Imperialism, expansion of the franchise, labour reform, and Irish Home Rule – spanned almost twenty years until Disraeli’s death in 1881.[63] Documented by the penny press, photographs and political cartoons, their rivalry linked specific personalities with the Premiership in the public mind and further enhanced its status.
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Gladstone During the Midlothian Campaign 1879 Speaking directly to the people for the first time, Gladstone's Midlothian campaign symbolises a major change in the role of the Prime Minister.
^ Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times” .
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
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.(Gladstone is seated in the centre; Rosebery, a future Prime Minister, is sitting on the carpet in front.^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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Each created a different public image of himself and his party. .Disraeli, who expanded the Empire to protect British interests abroad, cultivated the image of himself (and the Conservative Party) as "Imperialist", making grand gestures such as conferring the title "Empress of India" on Queen Victoria in 1876. Gladstone, who saw little value in the Empire, proposed an anti-Imperialist policy (later called "Little England"), and cultivated the image of himself (and the Liberal Party) as "man of the people" by circulating pictures of himself cutting down great oak trees with an axe as a hobby.^ The parties in power make policy and those policies failed big time.
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^ Sir Humphrey, Power to the People British democracy recognises that you need a system to protect the important things of life, and keep them out of the hands of the barbarians.
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^ Funny how people are quick to nickname McCain and show so little respect yet would hit the roof if Obama got called constant names.
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Gladstone went beyond image by appealing directly to the people. .In his Midlothian Campaign – so called because he stood as a candidate for that county – Gladstone spoke in fields, halls and railway stations to hundreds, sometimes thousands, of students, farmers, labourers and middle class workers.^ The Right to Know Actually it's only the urban middle class who worry about the preservation of the countryside, because they don't have to live in it.
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.Although not the first leader to speak directly to voters – both he and Disraeli had spoken directly to party loyalists before on special occasions – he was the first to canvass an entire constituency delivering his message to anyone who would listen, encouraging his supporters and trying to convert his opponents.^ Anyone else would try harder.
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^ Would you agree that wealth must first be created before it can be redistributed (even if we borrow it from the future on the promise to repay it with wealth still to be created)?
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^ She may not have wanted the reunification of Germany but by many in the east she is still seen as the only western leader who encouraged the breakup of the old communist bloc.
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Publicised nationwide, Gladstone's message became that of the party. .Noting its significance, Lord Shaftsbury said, "It is a new thing and a very serious thing to see the Prime Minister on the stump."^ Sir Humphrey: Well I for one, Minister, would be very surprised, as it is a thousand miles inland you see.
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^ The Ministerial Broadcast Things don't happen because Prime Ministers are very keen on them.
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^ Sir Humphrey: I think he said, yes Prime Minister.
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[64]
Campaigning directly to the people became commonplace. .Several 20th century Prime Ministers, such as David Lloyd George and Winston Churchill, were famous for their oratorical skills.^ How about this: Prime Minister Churchill vs. President Hoover.
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ David Lindsay on Dec 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pm Report comment She was , without doubt one of the great “3″ Prime Ministers of the past century.
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After the introduction of radio, motion pictures, television, and the internet, many used these technologies to project their public image and address the nation. Stanley Baldwin, a master of the radio broadcast in the 1920s and 1930s, reached a national audience in his talks filled with homely advise and simple expressions of national pride.[65] Churchill also used the radio to great effect, inspiring, reassuring and informing the people with his speeches during the Second World War. .Two recent Prime Ministers, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair, achieved celebrity status, like rock stars.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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"The props in Blair's theatre of celebrity," according to Anthony King, "included . . . his guitar, his casual clothes . . . footballs bounced skillfully off the top of his head . . . and carefully choreographed speeches-cum-performances at Labour Party conferences."[66]

The modern Premiership: 1911 to the present

The Parliament Act and the Premiership: 1911

.In addition to being the leader of a great political party and the head of Her Majesty’s Government, the modern Prime Minister is the leader of the House of Commons.^ David Lindsay on Dec 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pm Report comment She was , without doubt one of the great “3″ Prime Ministers of the past century.
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^ French Ambassador: Prime Minister, I cannot tell you the gravity of the affront my government would feel if her Majesty were to refuse a gift in exchange for the one our President accepted from her.
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^ The Ministerial Broadcast Jim: A party political spells instant boredom, I think it should be a Ministerial broadcast, you know, a Prime Minister addressing his people, but I'll do it into the camera, like a party political.
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.From this commanding position, the Prime Minister directs the law-making process, enacting into law his party’s programme.^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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^ Godfrey, The Ministerial Broadcast Make-up Lady: Could you smile Prime Minister.
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^ The Ministerial Broadcast Jim: A party political spells instant boredom, I think it should be a Ministerial broadcast, you know, a Prime Minister addressing his people, but I'll do it into the camera, like a party political.
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.For example, former Prime Minister Tony Blair, whose Labour party was elected in 1997 partly on a promise to enact a British Bill of Rights and to create devolved governments for Scotland and Wales, subsequently stewarded through Parliament the Human Rights Act (1998), the Scotland Act (1998) and the Government of Wales Act (1998).^ Are Labour members prepared to defend the rights of this United Kingdom Parliament?
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ Please let me remind you that unlike the government of Tony Blair, the German government had nothing to do with the desastrous Iraq War of George W. Bush.
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From its appearance in the 14th century, Parliament has been a bicameral legislature consisting of the Commons and the Lords. Members of the Commons are elected; those in the Lords are not. Most Lords are called "Temporal" with titles such as Duke, Marquess, Earl and Viscount. The balance are Lords Spiritual (prelates of the Anglican Church).
.For most of the history of the Upper House, Lords Temporal were land owners who held their estates, titles and seats as an hereditary right passed down from one generation to the next in some cases for centuries.^ Jim: Because I'm the only one member of the government who can't be sent to Northern Ireland next week.
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^ I saw something very clearly in last night's debate that gets right down to the fundamentals of who these candidates are.
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^ When the next General Election is upon us, people will have the vote who were not born when she was removed from office.
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In 1910, for example, there were nineteen whose title was created before 1500.[67][68][69][70]
.Until 1911, Prime Ministers had to guide legislation through the Commons and the Lords and obtain a majority approval in both to translate it into law.^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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^ The Key Sir Humphrey: I am coming through to number 10, I would like a word with the Prime Minister, please.
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^ Both were fully sponsored by the government, and especially by the Prime Minister, of the day.
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This was not always easy because political differences usually separated the chambers. .Representing the landed aristocracy, Lords Temporal were generally Tory (later Conservative) who wanted to maintain the status quo and resisted progressive measures such as extending the franchise.^ If I have to choose who I want representing the US and to go up against Putin or Ahmadinejad McCain is clearly superior in every way.
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The party affiliation of members of the Commons was less predictable. During the 18th century, its makeup varied because the Lords had considerable control over elections: sometimes Whigs dominated it, sometimes Tories. After the passage of the Great Reform Bill in 1832, the Commons gradually became more progressive, a tendency that increased with the passage of each subsequent expansion of the franchise.
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Asquith's Cabinet Reacts to the Lords' Rejection of the "People's Budget" - a satirical cartoon, 1909 Prime Minister Asquith's government welcomed the Lords' veto of the "People's Budget"; it moved the country toward a constitutional crisis over the Lords' legislative powers.
^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Commonwealth countries, Prime Minister.
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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.(Asquith makes the announcement while David Lloyd George holds down a jubilant Winston Churchill.^ That great Liberal,David Lloyd George, Winston, and Margaret Hilda.
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In 1906, the Liberal party, led by Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman, won an overwhelming victory on a platform that promised social reforms for the working class. With 379 seats compared to the Conservatives' 132, the Liberals could confidently expect to pass their legislative programme through the Commons.[71][72] At the same time, however, the Conservative Party had a huge majority in the Lords; it could easily veto any legislation passed by the Commons that was against their interests.[73]
For five years, the Commons and the Lords fought over one bill after another. The Liberals pushed through parts of their programme, but the Conservatives vetoed or modified others. When the Lords vetoed the "People's Budget" in 1909, the controversy moved almost inevitably toward a constitutional crisis.[74]
An important vote: the House of Lords voting for the Parliament Act 1911. From the Drawing by S. Begg The Parliament Act 1911 eliminated the Lords’ veto power over legislation approved by the House of Commons. Indirectly, it also further enhanced the dominance of the Prime Minister in the constitutional hierarchy.
.In 1910, Prime Minister Herbert Asquith [75] introduced a bill "for regulating the relations between the Houses of Parliament" which would eliminate the Lords’ veto power over legislation.^ Power to the People Professor Mariott: Parliament would become genuinely democratic.
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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Passed by the Commons, the Lords rejected it. In a general election fought on this issue, the Liberals were weakened but still had a comfortable majority. At Asquith’s request, King George V then threatened to create a sufficient number of new Liberal Peers to ensure the bill’s passage. Rather than accept a permanent Liberal majority, the Conservative Lords yielded, and the bill became law.[76]
The Parliament Act 1911 established the supremacy of the Commons. .It provided that the Lords could not delay for more than one month any bill certified by the Speaker of the Commons as a money bill.^ Is it just me who finds the irony that you have no self respect highlighted by yourself on a blog about a Lady who had more self-respect than you could ever imagine.
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^ The seller may get more money from the transaction than s/he laid out in the previous exchange but that isn’t wealth creation – it isn’t about creating ‘added value’.
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Furthermore, the act provided that any bill rejected by the Lords would nevertheless become law if passed by the Commons in three successive sessions provided that two years had elapsed since its original passage. The Lords could still delay or suspend the enactment of legislation but could no longer veto it.[77][78] Subsequently the Lords “suspending” power was reduced to one year by the Parliament Act 1949.
Indirectly, the Act enhanced the already dominant position of Prime Minister in the constitutional hierarchy. .The Lords are still involved in the legislative process and the Prime Minister must still guide legislation through both Houses, but the Lords no longer have the power to veto or even obstruct the will of the people as expressed in the Commons.^ Would you agree that wealth must first be created before it can be redistributed (even if we borrow it from the future on the promise to repay it with wealth still to be created)?
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^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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.Provided that he controls the Cabinet, maintains party discipline, and commands a majority in the Commons, the Prime Minister is assured of putting through his legislative agenda.^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ The Key Sir Humphrey: I am coming through to number 10, I would like a word with the Prime Minister, please.
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"Presidential" Premiership

.The role and power of the Prime Minister have been subject to much change in the last fifty years.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Isn't it time to move on and change the direction this country has been taking in the last eight years?
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^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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.There has gradually been a change from Cabinet decision making and deliberation to the dominance of the Prime Minister.^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Man Overboard Jim: Put it (the plan) top of the agenda next Cabinet Meeting, OK? Sir Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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As early as 1965, in a new introduction to Walter Bagehot's classic work The English Constitution, Richard Crossman identified a new era of "Prime Ministerial" government. .Some commentators, such as the political scientist Michael Foley, have argued there is a de facto "British Presidency". In Tony Blair's government, many sources such as former ministers have suggested that decision-making was centred around him and Gordon Brown, and the Cabinet was no longer used for decision making.^ Since I expected so little from him, I was impressed at his performance and no longer consider him senile.
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^ At the end of her chapter of British politics, how can she say that she can justify the fact that many people in a constituency such as mine are relatively much poorer, much less well housed and much less well provided for than they were in 1979?
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^ Then, from here to Saint Helena and everywhere else where it is applicable, those of us who want to be British can get on with being British, no longer troubled either by them or by you.
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[79] .Former ministers such as Clare Short and Chris Smith have criticised the total lack of decision-making in Cabinet.^ The Right to Know Sir Humphrey: Bernard, this country is governed by Ministers making decisions from the various alternative proposals that we offer them, is it not?
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On her resignation, Short denounced "the centralisation of power into the hands of the Prime Minister and an increasingly small number of advisers"[80] The Butler Review of 2004 condemned Blair's style of "sofa government".
Churchill waves to the Crowds After Announcing the Surrender of Germany 1945
.At the opposite extreme, however, Prime Ministers may dominate the Cabinet so much that they become "Semi-Presidents". Examples include William Ewart Gladstone, David Lloyd George, Neville Chamberlain, Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher, and Tony Blair.^ Would they elect Winston Churchill?
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^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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.The powers of some Prime Ministers waxed or waned, depending upon their own level of energy, political skills or outside events: Ramsay MacDonald, for example, was dominant in his Labour governments, but during his National Government his powers diminished so that he was merely the figurehead of the government.^ Her government started the phase out of tax relief on mortgages, if nuclear power had been developed we would not have an impending energy crisis.
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^ The Tangled Web I am sorry Prime Minister, I cannot become involved in some shabby coverup.
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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.In modern times, Prime Ministers have never been merely titular; dominant or somewhat dominant personalities are the norm.^ As I tried to prove when I wrote some of my earlier comments on this thread, as Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher has never been anti-German.
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^ The Prime Minister is aware that I detest every single one of her domestic policies, and I have never hidden that fact.
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^ Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times” .
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.Ultimately, however, the Prime Minister will be held responsible by the nation for the consequences of legislation or of general government policy.^ Chief Scientific Adviser, The Grand Design Bernard: Prime Minister, isn't conscription a rather courageous policy?
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^ A Question of Loyalty Sir Humphrey: Yes, yes, yes, yes I do see that there is a real dilemma here, in that while it has been government policy to regard policy as the responsibility of Ministers and administration as the responsibility of officials, the questions of administrative policy can cause confusion between the policy of administration and the administration of policy, especially when responsibility for the administration of the policy of administration conflicts or overlaps with responsibility for the policy of administration of policy.
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^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.Margaret Thatcher's party forced her from power after the introduction of the poll tax; Sir Anthony Eden fell from power following the Suez Crisis; and Neville Chamberlain resigned after being criticised for his handling of negotiations with Germany prior to the outbreak of World War II, and for failing to prevent the fall of Norway to the Nazi onslaught.^ Her government started the phase out of tax relief on mortgages, if nuclear power had been developed we would not have an impending energy crisis.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The parties in power make policy and those policies failed big time.
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^ When I criticised Margaret Thatcher for supporting Augusto Pinochet, you replied that “she stood by our friends”.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The Prime Minister's powers are also limited by the House of Commons, whose support the Government is obliged to maintain.^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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^ Barack Obama was running for prime minister and head of government in Friday night’s debate.
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^ Of course the Conservatives struggled to gain power at elections, their previous leader was Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The Commons checks the powers of the Prime Minister through committee hearings and through Question Time, a weekly occurrence in which the Prime Minister is obliged to respond to the questions of the Leader of the Opposition and other members of the House.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ A Question of Loyalty Cathy: As a Cabinet Minister, with all this power, what have you personally achieved?
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^ Ted Heath, one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times” .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

In practice, however, a Government with a strong majority need rarely fear "backbench rebellions".

Powers and constraints

.When commissioned by the Sovereign, a potential Prime Minister's first requisite is to "form a Government" – create a cabinet of ministry that has the support of the House of Commons, of which they are expected to be a member.^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Barack Obama was running for prime minister and head of government in Friday night’s debate.
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.The Prime Minister then formally kisses the hands of his Sovereign, whose royal prerogative is thereafter exercised solely on the advice of the Prime Minister and Her Majesty's Government ("HMG").^ French Ambassador: Prime Minister, I cannot tell you the gravity of the affront my government would feel if her Majesty were to refuse a gift in exchange for the one our President accepted from her.
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^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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^ Both were fully sponsored by the government, and especially by the Prime Minister, of the day.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The Prime Minister has weekly audiences with the Sovereign, whose functions are constitutionally limited "to advise, to be consulted, and to warn"; the extent of the Sovereign's ability to influence the nature of the Prime Ministerial advice is unknown, but presumably varies depending upon the personal relationship between the Sovereign and the Prime Minister of the day.^ Bernard, The Ministerial Broadcast Sir Humphrey: I am sorry Prime Minister you can't announce it yet.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The Prime Minister will appoint all other cabinet members (who then become active Privy Councilors) and ministers, although consulting senior ministers on their junior ministers, without any Parliamentary or other control or process over these powers.^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.At any time, he may obtain the appointment, dismissal or nominal resignation of any other minister; he may resign, either purely personally or with his whole government; or obtain the dissolution of Parliament, precipitating the loss of all MPs' seats and salaries and a general election (Ministers will remain in power pending the election of the new House of Commons).^ A Diplomatic Incident No we can't have alphabetical seating in the abbey, we'd have Iraq and Iran next to each other, plus Israel and Jordan all sitting in the same pew.
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^ At that Election, my own generation of post-Thatcher teenagers will first enter Parliament in some numbers, a few being already there.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ A Question of Loyalty Cathy: As a Cabinet Minister, with all this power, what have you personally achieved?
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.The Prime Minister generally co-ordinates the policies and activities of the Cabinet and Government departments, acting as the main public "face" of Her Majesty's Government.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm Report comment Whatever one may think of Thatcher’s policies, she was a forthright prime minister with principals and people including the public knew where they stood with her.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Chief Scientific Adviser, The Grand Design Bernard: Prime Minister, isn't conscription a rather courageous policy?
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.Although the Commander-in-Chief of the British Armed Forces is legally the Sovereign, under constitutional practice the Prime Minister, with the Secretary of State for Defence whom he may appoint or dismiss, holds power over the deployment and disposition of British forces, and the declaration of war.^ Chief Scientific Adviser, The Grand Design Bernard: Prime Minister, isn't conscription a rather courageous policy?
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^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ We sought an answer to that point when I was Principle Private Secretary and Dr Edith Summersgill as she then was, was appointed Minister in 1947, I didn't quite like to refer to her as my mistress.
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.The Prime Minister can authorise, but not directly order, the use of Britain's nuclear weapons and the Prime Minister is hence a Commander-in-Chief in all but name.^ Chief Scientific Adviser, The Grand Design Bernard: Prime Minister, isn't conscription a rather courageous policy?
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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.The Prime Minister makes all the most senior Crown appointments, and most others are made by Ministers over whom he has the power of appointment and dismissal.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ We tried all sorts of other celebrities and nobody else could make it.
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^ Godfrey, The Ministerial Broadcast Make-up Lady: Could you smile Prime Minister.
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.Privy Counsellors, Ambassadors and High Commissioners, senior civil servants, senior military officers, members of important committees and commissions, and other officials are selected, and in most cases may be removed, by the Prime Minister.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, it is the most courageous policy that you have ever proposed.
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^ Jim, The Tangled Web I, I Prime Minister am merely a humble servant, a lowly official.
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^ Those civil servants may be always kowtowing to daddy but they never take any notice of him.
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.He also formally advises the Sovereign on the appointment of Archbishops and Bishops of the Church of England, but his discretion is limited by the existence of the Crown Nominations Commission.^ The Bishops Gambit The Church of England is primarily a social organisation, not a religious one.
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.The appointment of senior judges, while constitutionally still on the advice of the Prime Minister, is now made on the basis of recommendations from independent bodies.^ Sir Humphrey: Well you could still be Prime Minister next century.
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^ Sir Humphrey, The Bed of Nails Jim: Will you please recommend to the Prime Minister that we set up an immediate Leak Inquiry.
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^ And of course she was Britain’s first female prime minister – now we have the likes of Harriet Harman instead, how the world has changed for the worse.
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.Peerages, knighthoods, and other honours are bestowed by the Sovereign only on the advice of the Prime Minister.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.The only important British honours over which the Prime Minister does not have control are the Orders of the Garter, Thistle, and Merit; the Royal Victorian Order; and the Venerable Order of Saint John, which are all within the "personal gift" of the Sovereign.^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ A Question of Loyalty Cathy: As a Cabinet Minister, with all this power, what have you personally achieved?
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.The Prime Minister appoints Ministers known as the "Whips", who use his patronage to negotiate for the support of MPs and to discipline dissenters of the government parliamentary party.^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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^ If one party has just over three hundred it forms a government, of that three hundred one hundred are too old and too silly, one hundred are too young and too callow which leaves just about a hundred MP's to fill one hundred governmental posts.
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^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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.Party discipline is strong since electors generally vote for parties rather than individuals.^ If the British continue to vote for parties with a propensity to redistribute wealth rather than create wealth then it is safe to say that the core British civilization is in terminal decline.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

.Members of Parliament may be expelled from their party for failing to support the Government on important issues, and although this will not mean they must resign as MPs, it will usually make re-election difficult.^ Sir Humphrey, The Bed of Nails Newspapers aren't like the government you know Humphrey, if we make statements we have to prove they're true.
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^ (A: Singapore or Dubai, if they’re lucky; more likely, able to consider the meaning of the phrase ’surplus value’ at their leisure…).
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Sir Humphrey, The Economy Drive Sir Humphrey: MP's are chosen by the people, they're chosen by their local party, thirty five men in grubby raincoats or thirty five women in silly hats.
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.Members of Parliament who hold ministerial office or political privileges can expect removal for failing to support the Prime Minister.^ Bernard, The Ministerial Broadcast Sir Humphrey: I am sorry Prime Minister you can't announce it yet.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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Restraints imposed by the Commons grow weaker when the Government's party enjoys a large majority in that House, or in the electorate. .In general, however, the Prime Minister and their colleagues may secure the Commons' support for almost any bill by internal party negotiations with little regard to opposition MPs.^ There is one statistic, however, that I understand is not challenged, and that is that, during her 11 years as Prime Minister, the gap between the richest 10 per cent.
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^ Was she “the Iron Lady” when she took just as little time to move from public opposition to public support of Spanish accession to the Western European Union?
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ [Bernard, Malcolm, Godfrey and lady look from TV screen to Jim] Godfrey: Prime Minister, how would you feel about a little dental work?
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However, even a government with a healthy majority can on occasion find itself unable to pass legislation. .For example, on January 31, 2006, Tony Blair's Government was defeated over certain aspects of proposals to outlaw religious hatred, and, on November 9, 2005, was defeated over plans which would have allowed police to detain terror suspects for up to 90 days without charge.^ I even guess that he would be more honest while holding office than Tony Blair has ever intended to be.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Please let me remind you that unlike the government of Tony Blair, the German government had nothing to do with the desastrous Iraq War of George W. Bush.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Is there any reason to assume that David Lindsay would be less qualified than Tony Blair?
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.On other occasions, the Government alters its proposals in order to avoid defeat in the Commons, as Tony Blair's Government did in February 2006 over education reforms.^ In Britain even Tony Blair did it.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

^ Please let me remind you that unlike the government of Tony Blair, the German government had nothing to do with the desastrous Iraq War of George W. Bush.
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.Formerly, a Prime Minister whose government lost a Commons vote would be regarded as fatally weakened, and his whole government would resign, usually precipitating a general election.^ French Ambassador: Prime Minister, I cannot tell you the gravity of the affront my government would feel if her Majesty were to refuse a gift in exchange for the one our President accepted from her.
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^ Sir Humphrey: No, no Minister it would never be government policy, that is unthinkable, only government practice.
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^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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.In modern practice, when the Government party has an absolute majority in the House, only the express vote "that this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government" is treated as having this effect; dissentients on a minor issue within the majority party are unlikely to force an election with the probable loss of their seats and salaries, and any future in the party.^ For the naysayers Thatcher won her first election against the incompetent incumbent by 339 seats to 269, on an 8% swing, with 43% of the vote to labour’s 36%.
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^ There is no doubt among a clear majority of Americans that Obama passed the Commander in Chief test and has command of the issues.
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^ Sir Humphrey: (laughs) Controversial only means this will lose you votes, courageous means this will lose you the election.
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.Likewise, a Prime Minister is no longer just "first amongst equals" in HM Government; although theoretically his Cabinet might still outvote him, in practice he progressively entrenches his position by retaining only personal supporters in the Cabinet.^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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^ Since I expected so little from him, I was impressed at his performance and no longer consider him senile.
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.In periodical reshuffles, the Prime Minister can sideline and simply drop from Cabinet the Members who have fallen out of favour: they remain Privy Councillors, but the Prime Minister decides which of them are summoned to meetings.^ Official Secrets Jim: I have decided that the only solution is for me to have a summit meeting with the French President and sort it out myself.
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^ Make alternative arrangements, and leave the 45govts and the xbats of the world to slog it out for any remaining votes, or simply to carve them up.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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.The Prime Minister is responsible for producing and enforcing the Ministerial Code.^ Bernard, The Ministerial Broadcast Sir Humphrey: I am sorry Prime Minister you can't announce it yet.
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^ The Ministerial Broadcast Things don't happen because Prime Ministers are very keen on them.
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^ Godfrey, The Ministerial Broadcast Make-up Lady: Could you smile Prime Minister.
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Peers as Prime Ministers

.Since Walpole's time, 18 members of the House of Lords have served as Prime Minister, the last being Lord Salisbury in 1902.[82] The last peer to be seriously considered for the premiership was Lord Curzon who was passed over in favour of Stanley Baldwin MP,[83] and since then members of the House of Lords have had to resign their peerages and be elected MPs before becoming PM, as was the case with Lord Home in 1963. That same year Lord Hailsham also resigned his peerage in a bid for the premiership.^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
  • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

Precedence, privileges and form of address

Tony Blair and Dick Cheney at the main door to 10 Downing Street, the Prime Minister's residence in London, on 11 March 2002.
.Throughout the United Kingdom, the Prime Minister outranks all other dignitaries except the Royal Family, the Lord Chancellor, and senior ecclesiastical functionaries (in England and Wales, the Anglican Archbishops of Canterbury and York; in Scotland, the Lord High Commissioner and the Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland; in Northern Ireland, the Anglican and Roman Catholic Archbishops of Armagh and Dublin and the Moderator of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church).^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ A Conflict of Interest Burandan High Commissioner: A racist attack on our President would undoubtedly create solidarity and support from all the other African states.
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^ Your predecessor, the previous Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, has just died of a heart attack.
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.By tradition, before a new Prime Minister can enter 10 Downing Street for the first time as its occupant, they are required to announce to the country and the world that they have kissed hands with the reigning monarch, and thus have become Prime Minister.^ Bernard, The Ministerial Broadcast Sir Humphrey: I am sorry Prime Minister you can't announce it yet.
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^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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^ Sir Humphrey, The Bishops Gambit Master: It's such an awful country, they cut peoples' hands off.
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This is usually done by saying words to the effect of:
"Her Majesty the Queen [His Majesty the King] has asked me to form a government and I have accepted."[84][85]
.Although it wasn't required, Tony Blair also said these words after he was re-elected in 2001 and 2005.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ And the utterances of most of John Major’s closest allies on Blair’s wars made it perfectly clear where he himself stood, although he should have said it himself.
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.At present the Prime Minister receives £127,334 in addition to a salary of £60,277 as a Member of Parliament.^ Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pm Report comment This is the first of 3 parts of the video of Prime Minister Thatcher’s last appearance in Parliament as PM .
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[86] .Until 2006 the Lord Chancellor was the highest paid member of the government ahead of the Prime Minister.^ Dear MR. Ignatius: Your characterization "he Prime Minister and the President" is what precisely Obama is ahead among younger voter.
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^ Sir Arnold, Open Government The Prime Minister giveth and the Prime Minister taketh away, blessed be the name Prime Minister.
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^ Barack Obama was running for prime minister and head of government in Friday night’s debate.
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.This reflected the Lord Chancellor's position at the top of the judicial pay scale, as British judges are on the whole better paid than British politicians and until 2005 the Lord Chancellor was both politician and the head of the judiciary.^ I felt that Obama would do a much better job of building consensus both in America and the world than McCain."
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^ I felt that Obama would do a much better job of building consensus both in America and the world than McCain.
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^ The British political system is better than the German one.
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The Constitutional Reform Act 2005 stripped the Lord Chancellor of his judicial functions and his salary was reduced to below that of the Prime Minister.
Chequers. The Prime Minister's official country home.
.The Prime Minister traditionally resides at 10 Downing Street in London and is also entitled to use the country house of Chequers in Buckinghamshire.^ The Ministerial Broadcast Sir Humphrey: He has his own car, a nice house in London, a place in the country, endless publicity and a pension for life, what more does he want?
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Commonwealth countries, Prime Minister.
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.The Prime Minister is customarily a member of the Privy Council; thus, they become entitled to prefix "The Right Honourable" to their name.^ Bernard: Prime Minister, a hot potato can't become into a banana skin, well if you don't do anything a hot potato just becomes a cold potato.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister the Treasury doesn't work out what they need to spend and then think how to raise the money.
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^ The Tangled Web I am sorry Prime Minister, I cannot become involved in some shabby coverup.
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Membership of the Council is retained for life. .It is a constitutional convention that only a Privy Counsellor can be appointed Prime Minister, but invariably all potential candidates have already attained this status.^ There is only one acceptable candidate – both local and experienced – on a shortlist of half a dozen, and it’s an STV election, which can throw up all sorts of things.
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^ This harlot is symbolic of the Statue of Liberty, the Queen of England, Golda Meir, the Prime Minister of Israel.
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.The only occasion when a non-Privy Councillor was the natural appointment was Ramsay MacDonald in 1924, but the issue was resolved by appointing him to the Council immediately prior to his appointment as Prime Minister.^ Sir Humphrey, The Bed of Nails Jim: Will you please recommend to the Prime Minister that we set up an immediate Leak Inquiry.
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.According to the now defunct Department for Constitutional Affairs, the Prime Minister is made a Privy Counsellor as a result of taking office and should be addressed by the official title prefixed by "The Right Honourable" and not by a personal name.^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
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^ The Ministerial Broadcast Jim: A party political spells instant boredom, I think it should be a Ministerial broadcast, you know, a Prime Minister addressing his people, but I'll do it into the camera, like a party political.
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^ Personally never had a problem with Pinochet as he had the right attitude to communists, namely shoot them.
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This form of address is employed at formal occasions but is rarely used by the media. .Tony Blair, the previous Prime Minister, was frequently referred to in print as "Mr Blair", "Tony Blair" or "Blair".[87] Colleagues sometimes referred to him simply as "Tony".[88] The Prime Minister is usually addressed as "Prime Minister", for example by interviewers[89] or civil servants, as in Yes, Prime Minister.^ Yes, that’s the Lady; and what a Prime Prime minister she was.
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^ Those civil servants may be always kowtowing to daddy but they never take any notice of him.
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^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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Since "Prime Minister" is a position, not a title, he or she should be referred to as "the Prime Minister" or (e.g.) "Mr. Blair". The form "Prime Minister Blair" is incorrect but is sometimes used erroneously outside the UK.

Retirement honours

.It is customary for the Sovereign to grant a Prime Minister some honour or dignity when that individual retires from politics.^ The Tangled Web I am sorry Prime Minister, I cannot become involved in some shabby coverup.
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^ As I tried to prove when I wrote some of my earlier comments on this thread, as Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher has never been anti-German.
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^ Power to the People Professor Mariott: Prime Minister, it is an honour to meet you.
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.The honour commonly, but not invariably, bestowed on Prime Ministers is membership of the United Kingdom's most senior order of chivalry, the Order of the Garter.^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, it is the most courageous policy that you have ever proposed.
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^ Power to the People Professor Mariott: Prime Minister, it is an honour to meet you.
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.The practice of creating retired Prime Ministers Knights (or, in the case of Margaret Thatcher, Ladies) of the Garter has been fairly prevalent since the middle-nineteenth century.^ Yes, that’s the Lady; and what a Prime Prime minister she was.
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^ The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs Thursday 14 January 2010 .
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^ Jan 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 am Report comment I thought Mrs. Thatcher was a terrible Prime Minister, particularly in her domestic record.
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.On the retirement of a Prime Minister who is Scottish, it is likely that the primarily Scottish honour of the Order of the Thistle will be used instead of the Order of the Garter, which is generally regarded as an English honour.^ Oh well if we can’t have a real prime minister might as well read about one instead – who knows, one day, in the distant future… .
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^ Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
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^ Winston Churchill was a better Prime Minister by several orders of magnitude, and thanks be to God: Britain faced invasion and annihilation during his watch.
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It has also been common for Prime Ministers to be granted peerages upon their retirement which elevates the individual to the House of Lords upon his retirement from the Commons. Formerly, the peerage bestowed was usually an earldom (which was always hereditary), with Churchill offered a dukedom.[90] .However, since the 1960s, hereditary peerages have generally been eschewed, and life peerages have been preferred, although in the 1980s Harold Macmillan was created Earl of Stockton on retirement.^ When what really happened was that she created a life-long scrap heap in many communities that will last for generations” .
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Sir Alec Douglas-Home, Harold Wilson, James Callaghan and Margaret Thatcher accepted life peerages. .However, neither Edward Heath, John Major or Tony Blair accepted peerages of any kind on stepping down as MPs.^ However, I can never accept that Blair or Brown have been anything other than a disaster for the country and its people.
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^ And the utterances of most of John Major’s closest allies on Blair’s wars made it perfectly clear where he himself stood, although he should have said it himself.
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Margaret Thatcher's son Mark is a baronet, which he inherited from his father Denis, but this is not a peerage.
.Of the nineteen Prime Ministers since 1902, eight have been created both peers and Knights of the Garter; three were ennobled but not knighted; three became Knights of the Garter but not peers; and five were not granted either honour: in two cases due to their death while still active in politics; two others declined honours.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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^ Sir Humphrey: Well you could still be Prime Minister next century.
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^ Former two-term (i.e., eight-year) governor both of a primary school and of a comprehensive school.
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Former Prime Ministers who are still living are:

See also

Notes

  1. ^ House of Commons Information Office - Ministerial Salaries
  2. ^ Le May, 98–99. Walter Bagehot, an authority on 19th century British government, said this unity is "the efficient secret" of its constitution. Bagehot's description of the "efficient part" of the British constitution is quoted by Le May and many other standard texts: "The efficient secret of the English Constitution may be described as the close union, the nearly complete fusion, of the executive and legislative powers. No doubt, by the traditional theory, as it exists in all the books, the goodness of our constitution consists in the entire separation of the legislative and executive authorities, but in truth its merit consists in their singular approximation. The connecting link is the Cabinet ... A Cabinet is a combing committee — a hyphen which joins a buckle which fastens the legislative part of the State to the executive part of the State. In its origin it belongs to the one, in its functions it belongs to the other."
  3. ^ King, pages 3–8. King makes the point that much of the British constitution is in fact written and that no constitution is written down in its entirety. The distinctive feature, he says, of the British constitution is that it is not codified.
  4. ^ Low, p.155. In 1902, for example, Arthur Balfour said, "The Prime Minister has no salary as Prime Minister. .He has no statutory duties as Prime Minister, his name occurs in no Acts of Parliament, and though holding the most important place in the constitutional hierarchy, he has no place which is recognized by the laws of his country.^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
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    ^ There is no doubt that the Prime Minister, in many ways, has achieved substantial success.
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    ^ Bernard: I did say no, the Prime Minister is busy.
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    This is a strange paradox"
  5. ^ Low, p. 255 "There is no distinction", said Gladstone, "more vital to the practice of the British constitution or to the right judgment upon it than the distinction between the Sovereign and the Crown."
  6. ^ Baghot, p. 67
  7. ^ Low, pages 255–258.
  8. ^ Knappen, pages 448–451.
  9. ^ Smith, pages 371–373
  10. ^ Smith, p. 382
  11. ^ "Standing Orders of the House of Commons" (PDF). London, United Kingdom: Parliament of the United Kingdom. 16 December 2009. p. 65. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmstords/2/2.pdf. 
  12. ^ Roseveare, p.80.
  13. ^ Smith, pages 372–373
  14. ^ Dodd, p 50 There are a few instances of the use of "Prime" or "First" Minister in the 17th century. After the Restoration in 1660, for example, Lord Clarendon was encouraged to assume the title of "First Minister" in the new government rather than accept a specific office. According to the Duke of Ormonde, however, "He (Clarendon) could not consent to enjoy a pension out of the Exchequer under no other title or pretense but being First Minister . . . [an office] so newly translated out of French into English that it was not enough understood to be liked and everyone would detest it for the burden it was attended with."
  15. ^ Marriott, p. 87.
  16. ^ Once in office, the Prime Minister fills not only Cabinet level positions but many other government offices (up to 90 appointments may be made today), selected mostly from the House of Commons, distributing them to party members, partly as a reward for their loyalty. The power to make so many appointments to government offices is one of the most effective means the Prime Minister has of maintaining party discipline in the Commons.
  17. ^ Dodd, p. 79 In 1691, for example, a Lord protested, that "'Cabinet-Council' is not a word to be found in our Law-books. We know it not before: we took it for a nick-name. Nothing can fall out more unhappily, than to have a distinction made of the 'Cabinet' and 'Privy-Council' ... If some of the Privy-Council men be trusted, and some not, to whom is a gentleman to apply? Must he ask, "Who is a Cabinet-Counsellor? ... I am sure, these distinctions of some being more trusted than others have given great dissatisfaction.”
  18. ^ Smith, pages 376–379.
  19. ^ Marriott, pages 75–76.
  20. ^ Dodd, p.66 "Is it not hard" Anne said, "that men of sense and honour will not promote the good of their country, because everything in the world is not done as they desire?"
  21. ^ a b Smith, pages 379–382.
  22. ^ Marriott, pages 76–83.
  23. ^ Smith, p. 383.
  24. ^ See e.g. the various orders prescribing fees to be taken in public offices
  25. ^ Marriotte, p. 107.
  26. ^ Smith, p. 384.
  27. ^ Pike, pages 22–23.
  28. ^ Smith, p. 385. He worked tirelessly to maintain the King's confidence, and sometimes resorted to bribery. On the accession of George II in 1727, for example, Walpole gave the new King an additional £100,000 for his personal use to maintain his offices.
  29. ^ Marriott, pages 77–81. The preceding paragraph is a paraphrase of Hearn's famous list of Walpole's contributions to the evolution of the office of Prime Minister in his book Government of England, page 220, quoted by Marriott.
  30. ^ Smith, pages 385–387
  31. ^ Marriott p. 86 During most periods of British history, there have been Chief Ministers who have had many of the attributes of a modern Prime Minister such as Dunstan of Glastonbury under Edgar, Ralph Flambard under William II, Cardinal Wolsey and Thomas Cromwell under Henry VIII, and many others.
  32. ^ a b Marriott, p. 88
  33. ^ Low, p. 156
  34. ^ Low, pages 156–157
  35. ^ The 18th century ambivalence causes problems for researchers trying to identify who was a Prime Minister and who was not. Every list of Prime Ministers may omit certain politicians. For instance, unsuccessful attempts to form ministries — such as the two-day government formed by William Pulteney, 1st Earl of Bath in 1746, often dismissed as the "Silly Little Ministry" - may be included in a list or omitted, depending on the criteria selected.
  36. ^ Low, pp. 160-161 In his memoirs, Gleanings, Gladstone lamented the Prime Ministry's unseemly status in the government hierarchy: "Nowhere in the wide world," he said, "does so great a substance cast so small a shadow. Nowhere is there a man who has so much power with so little to show for it in the way of formal title or prerogative."
  37. ^ Marriott, p 85
  38. ^ Rozenberg, Joshua (3 June 1998). "UK Politics: Talking Politics — Conventions of the constitution". BBC News (British Broadcasting Corporation). http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/talking_politics/88166.stm. Retrieved 2008-11-02. 
  39. ^ see Tuchman, The March of Folly, pp 127-232 for detailed descriptions of these and other ministries between the years 1760 and 1782
  40. ^ This event also marks the beginnings of collective Cabinet responsibility. This principle states that the decisions made by any one Cabinet member become the responsibility of the entire Cabinet.
  41. ^ Low, pp. 141-142.
  42. ^ Dodd, p. 127
  43. ^ Pares, p. 175 In a letter to the King written at the same time, North repeated the idea, "That in critical times, it is necessary that there should be one directing Minister, who should plan the whole of the operations of government, so far as to make them co-operate zealously & actively with his designs even tho' contrary to their own."
  44. ^ Marriott, pp 92-93 Bagehot enumerated the three rights of a constitutional Monarch as "the right to be consulted, the right to encourage, the right to warn"
  45. ^ Marriott, pp 78-83 Marriott enumerates five characteristics of modern Cabinet Government: 1. exclusion of the Sovereign, 2. close correspondence of party affiliation between the Cabinet and the majority in Parliament, 3. homogeneity of the Cabinet, 4. collective responsibility, and 5. ascendency of the Prime Minister.
  46. ^ Foord, p. 1.
  47. ^ Foord, p.1 Laughter followed Hobhouse's remark but George Tierney, a leading Whig, repeated the phrase and added a definition. "My honourable friend," he said, "could not have invented a better phrase to designate us than that which he has adopted, for we are certainly to all intents and purposes a branch of His Majesty's Government."
  48. ^ Except Lord Home, who resigned his peerage to stand in a by-election soon after becoming Prime Minister
  49. ^ Maitland, p. 354.
  50. ^ Smith, pages 234–235.
  51. ^ Smith, pages 37–38,
  52. ^ Marriott, pages 219–222.
  53. ^ Pike, pages 188–194.
  54. ^ Minney, p. 216. These are two of the most exciting years in all of Parliamentary history, filled with drama and a sense that history was being made. Lord Creevey, for example, recorded in his diary, "I dined in Downing Street with Lady Grey . . . After dinner the private secretary to the Prime Minister and myself being alone, I ascertained that although Lord Grey was gone to Brighton ostensibly to prick for Sheriffs for the year, his great object was to put his plan of reform before the King, previous . . . to its being proposed to the House of Commons. A ticklish operation, this! to propose to a Sovereign a plan for reducing his own power and patronage. However, there is the plan all cut and dry, and the Cabinet unanimous upon it . . . Grey is determined to fight it out to a dissolution of Parliament, if his plan is beat in the Commons. My eye, what a crisis!"
  55. ^ Trevelyan, p.272.
  56. ^ Marriott, pages 222–223.
  57. ^ Smith, pages 437–444.
  58. ^ Smith, pages 454, 468, 486, and 489.
  59. ^ The last Prime Minister to be a member of the Lords during any part of his tenure was Alec Douglas-Home, 14th Earl of Home in 1963. Lord Home was the last Prime Minister who was a hereditary peer, but, within days of attaining office, he disclaimed his peerage, abiding by the convention that the Prime Minister should sit in the House of Commons. A junior member of his Conservative Party who had already been selected as candidate in a by-election in a staunch Conservative seat stood aside, allowing Home to contest the by-election, win and thus procure a seat in the lower House.
  60. ^ Pike, p. 219.
  61. ^ Rosebery, p. 27. Lord Rosebery, later a Prime Minister himself, said of Peel: "the model of all Prime Ministers. It is more than doubtful, indeed, if it be possible in this generation, when the burdens of Empire and of office have so incalculably grown, for any Prime Minister to discharge the duties of his high office with the same thoroughness or in the same spirit as Peel . . . Peel kept a strict supervision over every department: he seems to have been master of the business of each and all of them . . . it is probable that no Prime Minister ever fulfilled so completely and thoroughly the functions of the office, parliamentary, administrative, and general as Sir Robert Peel."
  62. ^ Hanham, pages 63–64.
  63. ^ Even after death their rivalry continued. When Disraeli died in 1881, Gladstone proposed a state funeral, but Disraeli's will specified that he have a private funeral and be buried next to his wife. Gladstone replied, "As [Disraeli] lived, so he died — all display, without reality or genuineness." Disraeli, for his part, once said that GOM (the acronym for "Grand Old Man"), really stood for "God's Only Mistake".
  64. ^ Bigham, p. 318. Disraeli and Victoria thought the tactic was unconstitutional. “Such conduct", the Queen said, "is unheard of and the only excuse is – that he is not quite sane."
  65. ^ Pike, p. 389.
  66. ^ King, pages 319–320.
  67. ^ Tuckman, p 391
  68. ^ Following a series of reforms in the 20th century, the Lords now consists almost entirely of appointed members who hold their title only for their own lifetime. As of July 2008 the Lords had 746 members, compared to 646 in the Commons.
  69. ^ "House of Lords: Breakdown of Lords by party strength and type of peerage". 2008-05-01. http://www.parliament.uk/directories/house_of_lords_information_office/analysis_by_composition.cfm. Retrieved 2008-05-25. 
  70. ^ "House of Commons: State of the parties". 2008-05-23. http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hcio/stateparties.cfm. Retrieved 2008-05-25. 
  71. ^ Smith, p. 477,
  72. ^ Tuchman, p 365. The Liberal majority was actually much larger in practice because on most issues they could rely on the votes of 51 Labour and Lib-Lab representatives and 83 Irish Nationalists. Their majority was so large and unprecedented — they had more seats than all other parties combined — that one Conservative called it a "hideous abnormality".
  73. ^ Furthermore, Arthur Balfour, the defeated Conservative Prime Minister and now Leader of the Opposition, declared that the House of Lords was the "watchdog of the constitution"; it had an obligation to promote stability by rejecting "radical" legislation proposed by "zealots" who may have a temporary numerical advantage in the Commons. David Lloyd George, the new Liberal President of the Board of Trade and a future Prime Minister, said the Lords ". . . is not the watchdog of the British Constitution. It is Mr Balfour's poodle!" Smith, p. 478
  74. ^ Smith, pp 478-480. Although the Liberals did pass the Trade Disputes Bill, the Workmen's Compensation Act, the Labour Exchange Act, the Trade Boards Act, and the House and Town Planning Act, the Lords vetoed an Education Bill, a land reform bill, a Licensing Bill, and a Plural Voting Bill; they mutilated and mauled an Agricultural Holdings Bill and an Irish Town Tenants Bill, and they almost rejected the Old Age Pensions Bill.
  75. ^ Campbell-Bannerman retired and died in 1908
  76. ^ Knappen, pp 554-555
  77. ^ Smith, p. 482,
  78. ^ Knappen, p. 555
  79. ^ Chapter 12 Blair's Cabinet: Monarchy Returns, British Government in Crisis, Christopher Foster, Hart Publishing, 2005
  80. ^ Short launches broadside on Blair, BBC News, 12 May 2003. Accessed April 23, 2006.
  81. ^ "Blair defends school reform climbdown.". Times Online. February 7, 2006. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,17129-2028503,00.html. 
  82. ^ An Encyclopedia of Parliament by Norman Wilding and Philip Laundy
  83. ^ A Prime Minister on Prime Ministers by Harold Wilson
  84. ^ Margaret Thatcher enters 10 Downing Street, YouTube
  85. ^ Prime Minister Gordon "Celery" Brown arrives at Downing Street, YouTube
  86. ^ House of Commons Library: Research Paper - Parliamentary pay and allowances
  87. ^ The Times: 1–2. September 11 2006.  The forms "Mr Blair", "Tony Blair" and "Blair" are all used.
  88. ^ The 2006 Times article above for instance quotes "'Tony has issued an omerta,' a minister told The Times last night."
  89. ^ For example, in the BBC's transcript of Jon Sopel's interview with Gordon Brown for the Politics Show, Sunday 23 November 2008, Sopel asks questions such as "Prime Minister, you're famous for that phrase, there will be no return to boom and bust."
  90. ^ Rasor, Eugene L. Winston S. Churchill, 1874-1965: a comprehensive historiography and annotated bibliography, p. 205. Greenwood Publishing Group, 2000. ISBN 978-0-313-30546-7.

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    ^ Sir Humphrey, The Key We are here to see that the Prime Minister is not confused.
    • Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister 23 January 2010 10:24 UTC www.rubberturnip.org.uk [Source type: Original source]

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    ^ Your predecessor, the previous Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, has just died of a heart attack.
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    ^ And of course she was Britain’s first female prime minister – now we have the likes of Harriet Harman instead, how the world has changed for the worse.
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External links

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  • 10 Downing Street, Official Website.
  • The British Constitution A general introduction to the constitutional function of the UK Prime Minister
  • Parliament of the United Kingdom.^ Are Labour members prepared to defend the rights of this United Kingdom Parliament?
    • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

    ^ In other words: the UK wasn’t always as bad as it became when Tony Blair became the country’s Prime Minister.
    • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

    ^ The West needs leadership and the British are so good at providing it when they have a strong Prime Minister in office.
    • The Thatcher papers: 30 years ago, we had a proper Prime Minister – Telegraph Blogs 14 January 2010 13:20 UTC blogs.telegraph.co.uk [Source type: Original source]

    (2004). Official Website.
  • Principal Ministers of the Crown: 1730–2006
  • bruv.org

Simple English

The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is the highest elected office in the United Kingdom. The current Prime Minister is David Cameron who succeeded Gordon Brown on 11 May 2010.

The Prime Minister is the leader of the political party which wins most seats in the House of Commons. Voters vote for their own local MP, not for the Prime Minister.

The first Prime Minister was Robert Walpole in the eighteenth century, but he was known as the First Lord of the Treasury. The first person to be officially called "Prime Minister" was Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman in 1905.

Other well-known prime ministers include Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.


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