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.^ This year sees the 20th anniversary of the publication of Watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.
^ Mar 6th, 2009 BETOMACHADO.COM » Archive » Alan Moore wanted Schwarzenegger to play Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen – Mar 10th, 2009 .
^ DG: Well, I’ll have a schnoozle then… SW: The thing that I think distinguishes Watchmen from other comics is that the series holds together more like a novel.
The series was published by
DC Comics during 1986 and 1987, and has been subsequently reprinted into collected form.
Watchmen originated from a story proposal Moore submitted to DC featuring
superhero characters that the company had acquired from
Charlton Comics.
.^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The characters were almost unrecognizeable and this script affords the original story almost no respect at all.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ No, you still have the source material and you would have a cinematic interpretation of a fantastic story and brilliant characters.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Moore used the story as a means to reflect contemporary anxieties and to critique the superhero concept.
Watchmen takes place on an
alternate history Earth where superheroes emerged in the 1940s and 1960s, helping the United States to win the
Vietnam War. The country is edging closer to a
nuclear war with the
Soviet Union, freelance costumed vigilantes have been outlawed and most costumed superheroes are in retirement or working for the government.
.^ The film opens with the murder of the Comedian (Jeffrey Dean Morgan), an aging superhero long since retired.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Sally reaches into a drawer and pulls out the old photo of the Watchmen, the same one with Blake and Hollis Mason in it.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
and eventually leads them to confront a plot to stave off nuclear war by killing millions of people.
Creatively, the focus of
Watchmen is on its structure. Gibbons used a nine-panel grid layout throughout the series and added recurring symbols such as a blood-stained
smiley.
.^ Most interesting thing: I had no idea that Alan Moore was inspired by Brecht's "Pirate Jenny" for the Black Freighter, a song which, when you hear it, quite simply IS The Black Freighter.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ And if you really read the comic you would know that there is tons of viable material at the end of each issue in normal non illustrated prose form that a'la LOST (which counts Watchmen as an influence)could add even more depth to the story.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ SW: All the way through it you’re waiting to hear the tale of the Black Freighter even though you even get told the ending before the ending in one of your appendixes.
.^ Mainly because Snyder and writers kept the intention and spirit of the graphic novel, despite having made all those plot changes.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I think the major strength in it, is the performances of Weaving and Portman, and the script capturing at least some of the major plot points of the graphic novel to an adequate degree.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I can see people who haven't read the graphic novel having a hard time understanding the film, would I be wrong in that assumption?- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
Watchmen has received critical acclaim both in the comics and mainstream press, and is regarded by critics as a seminal text of the comics medium. After a number of attempts to adapt the series into a feature film, director
Zack Snyder's
Watchmen was released in 2009.
Background and creation
.^ Well, comic book heroism, that is.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ With so many great comics out there you think that they'd just pick a different one to make.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Frankly, Mori, if you think the totally compromised and cowardly V movie was a decent adaptation then you just didn't get the book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ I haven't gotten very far into the book yet, so I wasn't sure if she showed up more or not.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I don't think I would make a good super hero because I'm not the transcendent type.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ To me, the major difference comes in how the 'super heroism' is treated.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
Alan Moore on the basis for
Watchmen[1]
In 1985, DC Comics acquired a line of characters from
Charlton Comics.
[2] .^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ And maybe just maybe you could invite Alan Moore to pull his head out of his ass and help on a series adding things to make it work for television rather than cutting it for film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I love Alan Moore's writing, but he sure does seem like a primadonna when it comes to his comics being optioned as movies.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ If I was going to be a hero, the reason I’d want to be one is probably as a response to the comics I read as a kid, and I would feel that I had to have a utility belt.
.^ You know what would be really exciting?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I found really breathless because you were getting through so much in that one issue but 12 was everything I could’ve hoped it would be.
^ DG: You begin to wonder, I mean we used to have these extensive phone calls and discuss the latest set of coincidences and we began to think: Are we just imagining all these coincidences?
[2] .^ The fact is that fans like the idea of being able to influence their favorite characters and stories as they head for the big screen.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ It seems to me that a 12 part series used as a medium to adapt a 12 part series is a good idea (especially given the complexities of the characters and opportunities for historical development this would allow, as opposed to a 2 or 3 hour movie).- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ In the end, I really think it would work best as a miniseries for HBO. Kerry Conran made an FX-heavy film on the cheap.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Oh crud, I just realized you said Moore and not Snyder...- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ The thing is that Moore's story is solid enough (like V) that you can lift that out of the book almost completely and it would adapt REALLY well to film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[4] Moore had initially believed that original characters would not provide emotional resonance for the readers, but later changed his mind.
.^ Hugh Laurie be cast as Q is they decide to bring the character back.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Really, I think you can only get away with that kind of length if your build UP the intensity and edit it to keep the narrative flowing fast enough so it SEEMS short.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ It distracted from seeing the characters more and just made them more fantasical and super-heroic and that I think was putting ON the mask than taking it off.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[1]
Dave Gibbons, artist on
Watchmen. Gibbons had a free hand in the design of the comic.
.^ "WATCHMEN" is the pinnacle of Moore's superhero work and to reduce it to a B-level effects film rather than an A-Level project would be a shame.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ This year sees the 20th anniversary of the publication of Watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.
^ DG: One of the worst banes of a comic artist is working with a writer who doesn’t think through what he’s asking you to draw.
.^ I think the Super Matrix Bros, just wanted a clever way to disguise their attack on the current American administration, and they found it in Moore's story.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Ask him to tell Alan Moore's and Dave Gibbons' story and not David Hayter's.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[5] Gibbons told Giordano he wanted to draw the series Moore proposed and Moore approved.
[6] .^ (CONT'D) Blake saw the true face of human kind and chose to become a parody of it, treated it like a joke.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ At the end, two big STEEL DOORS open, allowing a passage UP. DAN Let's have some cloud cover.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ He must have liked Rorschach because he allowed him to continue to exist.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ You are taking me out of here because if you don't, and Jon does come back, I'm going to let him know who was naughty and who was nice.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ INT. ROCKEFELLER BASE - COMMUNICATIONS ROOM - NIGHT PULL OUT FROM: A SATELLITE IMAGE of MARS. NOISE filters back in, as TECHNICIANS buzz this way and that, desperate.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Otherwise it would've been a rambling mess with a message that would've been lost on a large majority of moviegoers who, unfortunately, don't know who Alan Moore is (I know, heartbreaking).- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[2]
.^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The fact is that fans like the idea of being able to influence their favorite characters and stories as they head for the big screen.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ That is due to the character archtypes of the Superman/Punisher/Batman but what makes it truly great is the details much of which come in the illustrated flashbacks and the side stories.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[4] .^ Much of the appeal of the book also comes not from the characters but from the ideas that Moore explores and the clever formal games he plays with the comics medium, neither of which really translate to the movie...I also think Zack Snyder definitely upped the fetishization of violence and superheroic power from the book, which in interviews he's said is meant to be intentionally problematic and to make us question our enjoyment of those sorts of scenes, but I don't think he really succeeds in this respect.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ If you haven't seen what they're up to yet, and you don't know what they've done with the adaptation, and you haven't seen one image or design or indication of the look or feel, how can you make such a grand sweeping pronouncement?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Let's face it, none of the older Bond's hold a candle to what they acheived with Casino Royale and Craig's truly superb take on Bond and how they revitalised this character and made a truly excellent movie out of it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ "V for Vendetta" may not have been definitive but it did capture the essence of the book and is rather subversive for these times.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
spend[ing] maybe two or three weeks just doing sketches."
[3] .^ With so many great comics out there you think that they'd just pick a different one to make.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ You can't translate that to film, and it wouldn't make sense to do so, because once you pull that stuff off the page, it won't work--it's comics using comics conventions to comment on comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Seriously, just because you deliver the pizzas doesn't mean it counts as getting out of the house.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ I'm just glad you're okay.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ RORSCHACH You're joking, of course.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Morally, you're in checkmate, just like the Comedian was.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[9]
Moore began writing the series very early on, hoping to avoid publication delays such as those faced by the DC limited series
Camelot 3000.
[10] .^ However, the economy and efficiency and depth of writing necessary to even suggest this in a script while compressing and compositing the myriad plot points so that the director has a proper foundation for the film is...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ That Moore read the Hayter's script and said it was the best adaptation conceivable.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Oh crud, I just realized you said Moore and not Snyder...- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
We were contracted for 12!" His solution was to alternate issues that dealt with the overall plot of the series with origin issues for the characters.
[11] .^ Last time someone said Moore was happy with a script was Joel Silver and look how well that worked out.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ Here’s an example in No 11 where the first panel is a blank panel of snow, and if you look at the last page of No 2 you’ve got a blank panel on the other side, which is the red of the funeral roses and you think that’s really clever that.
^ Read the first page *alone* and tell me that even that one page could be adapted into any other medium and retain it's beauty and interlacing meanings.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ DG: The most blatant rip off I’ve seen of Watchmen is on the splash page of the latest Superpowers Series , No 2.
[12] .^ I found really breathless because you were getting through so much in that one issue but 12 was everything I could’ve hoped it would be.
^ But you don’t go beck to the same moment as before you jump back a few seconds.
^ That fool put my cousin in a WHEELCHAIR GANG MEMBER 2 You say Nite Owl broke him out?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[12] .^ In the end, I really think it would work best as a miniseries for HBO. Kerry Conran made an FX-heavy film on the cheap.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ That Moore read the Hayter's script and said it was the best adaptation conceivable.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ You think film is a medium capable of presenting Moore's work...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[13] .^ I'm not saying i dont like that, i think its worked great for him on his past 2 projects and looks to be working again on United 93, but Watchmen needed to feel a bit steadier, i think.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Why did Alan Moore write the Watchmen?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[8] Moore occasionally contacted fellow comics writer
Neil Gaiman for answers to research questions and for quotes to include in issues.
[11].^ There is a lot of social commentary, Moore likes to cover a lot of things all at once.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[12] Gibbons mentioned that a major factor in the delays was the "piecemeal way" in which he received Moore's scripts.
.^ (CONTINUED) 28 CONTINUED: (2) SALLY That leaves just two of the old team left.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Hell, at this point, Snyder's just in talks to direct, and he's still got a year of work to do before 300 is ready for theaters.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ A SHADOW FALLS OVER HIM. He looks up to see a THREE PIECE SUIT floating before him-- waiting for its wearer.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
And he'll send another two or three pages or maybe one page or sometimes six pages."
[14] As the creators began to hit deadlines, Moore would hire a taxi driver to drive 50 miles and deliver scripts to Gibbons. On later issues the artist had his wife and son draw panel grids on pages to help save time.
[11] .^ Read the first page *alone* and tell me that even that one page could be adapted into any other medium and retain it's beauty and interlacing meanings.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Then I start thinking is thsi gonna be another Daredevil or another X-Men 2 (I still contend that the first one sucked, even knowing that it had to be because of the introduction of characters blah-blah-blah).- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[15]
.^ The thing is that Moore's story is solid enough (like V) that you can lift that out of the book almost completely and it would adapt REALLY well to film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[11] .^ Yes, asshole, I "really read the comic," and I acknowledged the "non-illustrated prose" that accompanies the end of each issue.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[13]
Story
Watchmen is set in an alternate reality which closely mirrors the contemporary world of the 1980s. The primary difference is the presence of superheroes. The
point of divergence occurs in the year
1938. Their existence in this iteration of America is shown to have dramatically affected and altered the outcomes of real-world events such as the
Vietnam War and the presidency of
Richard Nixon.
[16] .^ Underneath is a photo of Blake dressed in the costume Rorschach was staring at--Blake was a superhero called the Comedian.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ The blue cock is NOT what's really going to keep me from allowing my 9 year old son from seeing Watchmen .- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Why even call this movie WATCHMEN? Give the characters new names and tell your story.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[17] The existence of Doctor Manhattan has given the U.S. a strategic advantage over the Soviet Union, which has increased tensions between the two nations. Eventually, superheroes grow unpopular among the police and the public, which has led to the passage of legislation in 1977 to outlaw them.
.^ The Comedian’s death kicks off the main plot when his murder is investigated by Rorschach (Jackie Earle Haley), a hero living outside the law who wears a mask with constantly changing inkblot patterns.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[18]
Plot
.^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY AIRSPACE - NIGHT The Owl-Ship emerges from the subway tunnel .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY - NIGHT We move down the beautifully lit New York city skyline, passing the Brooklyn Bridge .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY AIRSPACE - NIGHT The Owl-Ship WEAVES around the buildings, trying to shake the copters .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ CONTINUED: ANCHORWOMAN Today, police searched the apartment of Walter Kovacs, better known as the masked vigilante Rorschach.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ It's a fake 1975 interview with Hollis Mason (the original Nite Owl) about his Behind The Mask book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Rorschach believes that someone is intentionally killing superheroes, so he sets out to warn the remaining Watchmen: Adrian Veidt (Matthew Goode), revered as the smartest man alive, whose hero persona was Ozymandias and who’s now turned to private enterprise; Dan Dreiberg (Patrick Wilson), formerly the Nite Owl, who goes about his lonely life afraid of success and failure alike; and Laurie Jupiter (Malin Akerman), aka Silk Spectre, and Jon Osterman (Billy Crudup), aka Dr. Manhattan, still doing contract work for the government.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ (SPOILER TIME AT THE APOLLO)...Laurie and Jon's conversation on Mars when she discovers the truth about Comedian, the Veidt reveal, Rorschach's death along with the deaths of countless millions...those sequences should have carried the most dramatic weight but instead fall strangely flat.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ FUNERAL: Blake's coffin is carried past Adrian, Dan and Dr. Manhattan.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Journalist who grilled Dr. Manhattan on national television.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ CONTINUED: (3) DR. MANHATTAN By your line of questioning, you're suggesting that I was the cause of cancer in these individuals.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
When the U.S. government takes the accusations seriously, Manhattan exiles himself to Mars. In doing so, he throws humanity into political turmoil, with the Soviet Union invading Afghanistan to capitalize on the perceived American weakness. Rorschach's paranoid beliefs appear vindicated when Adrian Veidt narrowly survives an assassination attempt, and Rorschach himself is framed for murdering Moloch, a former supervillain.
.^ Don't you see the futility of asking me to save a world that I no longer have any stake in?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ AICN can provide us the inside scoop on movies that WE have no influence on because we have to shut up and be positive so they will make more movies we don't like...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ RORSCHACH Out of prison.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ So you do believe Rorschach's theory.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ And breaking Rorschach out of prison certainly isn't the answer.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Doctor Manhattan, after looking back on his own personal history, places the fate of his involvement with human affairs in Juspeczyk's hands. He teleports her to Mars to make the case for emotional investment. During the course of the argument, Juspeczyk is forced to come to terms with the fact that Blake, who once attempted to rape her mother, was in fact her biological father.
.^ DR. MANHATTAN 2 --but logically, not clouded with human emotion.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ CONTINUED: Rorschach disappears into the dark hatch.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ INT. OWL-SHIP (MOVING) - CONTINUOUS LAURIE How are we going to find Rorschach in all of this?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ CONTINUED: (2) DR. MANHATTAN Rorschach, you know I can't let you do that.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ Of course, the fragments would likely have the Veidt logo on them and they'd track Adrian down and that'd be that.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ INT. THE NEW FRONTIERSMAN - EARLY MORNING The Editor walks in as Seymour goes through the mail.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Why do you care about that right wing rag so much?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
The pair then confront Veidt at his Antarctic retreat.
.^ Nothing short of an alien attack on New York would unite the world.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY AIRSPACE - NIGHT The Owl-Ship WEAVES around the buildings, trying to shake the copters .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY AIRSPACE - NIGHT The Owl-Ship emerges from the subway tunnel .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
He hopes this will unite the nations against a perceived common enemy. He also reveals that he had murdered The Comedian, arranged for Dr. Manhattan's past associates to be diagnosed with cancer, staged the attempt on his own life in order to place himself above suspicion, and eventually staged Moloch's death to frame Rorschach. This was all done in an attempt to prevent his plan from being exposed.
.^ He COLLAPSES. Dan and Rorschach find them as Laurie approaches Adrian's body DAN Laurie, shoot him again!- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Rorschach mentioned Dan Dreiberg--we haven't seen him in years.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ RORSCHACH That doesn't explain the attempt on Veidt's life.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
When Doctor Manhattan and Juspeczyk arrive back on Earth, they are confronted by mass destruction and wide scale death in New York City. Doctor Manhattan notices his abilities are limited by
tachyons emanating from the Antarctic, and the pair teleport there.
.^ So we take him out of the equation, and all you have are the other heroes, and they had their confrontation in this film.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ The Watchmen could draw in a wide demographic with all the generations that have read the book, maybe even lead to new subscribers.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Or maybe its the new Veidt who, like the rest of the characters, bears almost no resemblence to the character in the comic.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ This commercial free broadcast is presented to you by Veidt Enterprises.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Rorschach refuses to compromise and leaves, intent on revealing the truth. As he is making his way back, he is confronted by Manhattan.
.^ ASSISTANT Well, Mr. Veidt is very busy at the MOMENT-- DAN Just tell him I'm here.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ DAN Jon, stop him, he killed millions of people, who knows what else he'll do.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ I did the right thing.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ This review was beautiful, but I'm glad that they did things as right as possible.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ The people in Hollywood are a bunch of unoriginal sellouts who will turn anything into a film, regardless if it's a good idea: But those unoriginal sellouts did this bad idea right.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ Manhattan leaving the earth and leaving the U.S. vulnerable to attack, Nixon still being president, Adrian's plan) end spoilers ...- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ CONTINUED: (2) CUT TO: Laurie, driving a FIST into a Thug's NOSE, when another Thug GRABS HER HAIR. NEWS HOST (V.0.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ We asked "New Frontiersman" editor, Hector Godfrey, for comment.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ WE PULL BACK: And find Seymour wears the shirt, eating a burger when the Editor bursts in.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ INT. THE NEW FRONTIERSMAN - EARLY MORNING The Editor walks in as Seymour goes through the mail.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ Run whatever you like-- Seymour turns to the PILE of submissions known as the crank file, where RORSCHACH'S JOURNAL sits on top.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ Seymour tosses Rorschach's journal into a PILE OF LETTERS. EXT. GLASS PALACE - MARS - NIGHT Laurie's hair blows in the cold wind.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Run whatever you like-- Seymour turns to the PILE of submissions known as the crank file, where RORSCHACH'S JOURNAL sits on top.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Characters
The main characters of
Watchmen (from left to right): Ozymandias, the second Silk Spectre, Doctor Manhattan, The Comedian (kneeling), the second Nite Owl, and Rorschach.
.^ Most interesting thing: I had no idea that Alan Moore was inspired by Brecht's "Pirate Jenny" for the Black Freighter, a song which, when you hear it, quite simply IS The Black Freighter.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I hope he's loved it for 20 years and that he's so intimate with the story that he can untie Alan Moore's Gordian knot and refasten it around the silver screen.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ If the reader/viewer wanted to believe it worked, then it did.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ You mention Quatum of Solace and wanted to shit all over Roger Moore and mention Never Say Never Again, but the greatest Bond movie ever comes out and nothing?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Snyder deserves credit just for being able to create a serviceable movie under these guidelines, but only time will tell if the extended is the masterpiece that we all want it to be.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I'm just sick of hearing all these people say that it's the only way it can be done (although I'm not as convinced as you are that HBO's got the dinero to make it happen).- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ Good, bad, worst movie ever, doesn't matter to me - I'm happy to have a reason to go to the movie theater again, to have something to look forward to seeing!- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[8]
.^ Underneath is a photo of Blake dressed in the costume Rorschach was staring at--Blake was a superhero called the Comedian.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ DR. MANHATTAN Yes, since he and I are the only two extranormal operatives currently employed by the government, I was informed.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ CONTINUED: ( 2) DAN On the surface it doesn't, but hear me out--Adrian's the only one who could've taken on the Comedian in hand to hand combat.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ The Comedian's death is basically a MacGuffin, it sets the plot in motion but the story ends up in a very different place.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
The character appears throughout the story in flashbacks and aspects of his personality are revealed by other characters.
[18] The Comedian was based on the Charlton Comics character
Peacemaker, with elements of the
Marvel Comics spy character
Nick Fury added. Moore and Gibbons saw The Comedian as "a kind of
Gordon Liddy character, only a much bigger, tougher guy".
[1] Richard Reynolds described The Comedian as "ruthless, cynical, and nihilistic, and yet capable of deeper insights than the others into the role of the costumed hero."
[18] Although he attempted to rape the first Silk Spectre in the 1940s, issue nine reveals that years later he fathered her daughter Laurie as part of a consensual sexual relationship.
Dr. Jon Osterman/Doctor Manhattan: A superpowered being who is contracted by the United States government.
.^ DR. MANHATTAN (formerly Jon Osterman) for the very first time.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ And no matter how good an adaptation may be, there will always be people who will thouroghly hate it because i's not a word for word/image for image transcription of the original text.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ Yet somehow, I could watch it infinitely more times than I could ever watch 'PWZ' (probably because of simple interest in the main character).- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ The 12 year old thing was a twist that could have been nothing more than a novelty in worse hands.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I hope Zack's (assuming he snags the gig) writer does more than tinker with Hayter's script.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[1] In contrast to other superheroes who lacked scientific exploration of their origins, Moore sought to delve into
nuclear physics and
quantum physics in constructing the character of Dr. Manhattan. The writer believed that a character living in a quantum universe would not perceive time with a linear perspective, which would influence the character's perception of human affairs. Moore also wanted to avoid creating an emotionless character like
Spock from
Star Trek, so he sought for Dr. Manhattan to retain "human habits" and to grow away from them and humanity in general.
[8] .^ CUT TO: Stock footage of DR. MANHATTAN--a man, at least he appears to be, who has glowing blue skin.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ The light from Dr. Manhattan's SKIN DARKENS to a DEEPER BLUE. DR. MANHATTAN Is this dark enough?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ On that note, I think the Watchmen can be distilled into at least a two-and-a-half-hour film and leave much of the message and plotpoints of the story intact.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Ask him to tell Alan Moore's and Dave Gibbons' story and not David Hayter's.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[19] .^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The fact is that fans like the idea of being able to influence their favorite characters and stories as they head for the big screen.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Gibbons and he, sold the rights to DC UNTIL they would stop printing it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[3] .^ I thought they would bullshit that by giving Manhattan underwear, or blurring it out, but his glorious blue penis was onscreen.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Manhattan's full frontal nude scenes were perfectly valid (be fair, if YOU had godlike powers you'd traipse around nekkid too).- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[20]
.^ Tim Robbins for Nite Owl, he's got the stature of someone who could've been a superhero in his youth, and he's got the bookish look too.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Nite-Owl/Daniel Dreiberg - Nicholas Cage(possibly) -- maybe even Phillip Seymour Hoffman , Kevin Spacey, Giamatti could do this also (LOVE the Cusack idea.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Nite Owl was based on the
Ted Kord version of the
Blue Beetle.
.^ It's a fake 1975 interview with Hollis Mason (the original Nite Owl) about his Behind The Mask book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Excuse me: "Nite Owl's rebirth as a hero to first see him as a USELESS older guy", not "useful".- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ It added poignancy to Nite Owl's rebirth as a hero to first see him as a useful older guy in his basement, and then to see him transformed and getting back into the vigilante/hero life.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[1] .^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Moore's genius alone could not have provided this in the hands of a less capable artist.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[20] .^ Making a comic adaption is easy when it's Batman or Spider-Man or any number of other characters hat have been re churned so many times since their inception.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Excuse me: "Nite Owl's rebirth as a hero to first see him as a USELESS older guy", not "useful".- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Finally, we come to HOLLIS MASON (aka Nite Owl), 70s, though his eyes sparkle with strength and his face still shows the edges of a born hero.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[21] According to Klock, his civilian form "visually suggests an impotent, middle-aged
Clark Kent."
[22]
.^ The film opens with the murder of the Comedian (Jeffrey Dean Morgan), an aging superhero long since retired.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ INT. VEIDT ENTERPRISES - MAIN LOBBY - DAY Adrian steps off the elevator when he's met by his Assistant.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Dan examines an ACTION-FIGURE of Adrian as OZYMANDIAS (his superhero alias).- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ DOUG ROTH Mr. Veidt, would you acknowledge that you are considered the world's smartest man?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Ozymandias was directly based on
Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt, whom Moore had admired for using his full brain capacity as well as possessing full physical and mental control.
[1] Richard Reynolds noted that by taking initiative to "help the world", Veidt displays a trait normally attributed to villains in superhero stories, and in a sense he is the "villain" of the series.
[23] Gibbons noted "One of the worst of his sins [is] kind of looking down on the rest of humanity, scorning the rest of humanity."
[24]
.^ It was Walter Kovacs who screamed, who closed his eyes-- it was Rorschach who opened them again.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ CONTINUED: ANCHORWOMAN Today, police searched the apartment of Walter Kovacs, better known as the masked vigilante Rorschach.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ We move out of the POV and see our guy for the first time-- RORSCHACH (roar-shock)--a masked vigilante who wears a trench coat, fedora, and a silver-white MASK with oily BLACK SPOTS moving about, creating shifting, doubled PATTERNS like a Rorschach test.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Moore said he was trying to "come up with this quintessential
Steve Ditko character - someone who's got a funny name, whose surname begins with a 'K,' who's got an oddly designed mask". Moore based Rorschach on Ditko's creation
Mr. A;
[12] Ditko's Charlton character
The Question also served as a template for creating Rorschach.
[1] .^ Rorschach is somewhere between criminally insane and just really motivated in his mission, and he was created to show just one of many different possible moral compasses to which people could adhere; Moore, rather than offer a parable, mixed together characters with disparate belief systems, each flawed but redeemable, in order to create a more densely layered story.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ He said something about wishing he never broke into that building.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ And if you really read the comic you would know that there is tons of viable material at the end of each issue in normal non illustrated prose form that a'la LOST (which counts Watchmen as an influence)could add even more depth to the story.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[8]
.^ Bruce Campbell or Kurt Russell might be good choices at also, but I still think that Berenger is best, Ironside as a good second choice.****Also, I figure Faye Dunaway as Silk Spectre I/ Sally Jupiter, and James Garner as Nite Owl I. .- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Silk Spectre/Laurie Juspeczyk - Rachel Weisz, Amanda Peet, (I like Julianne Moore) Diane Lane, Uma Thurman.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ INT. HALLWAY - SALLY JUPITER'S CONDO - LOS ANGELES, CA - DAY Laurie MATERIALIZES in the hallway of her mother's condo in California.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
She had been the lover of Doctor Manhattan for years.
.^ I almost don't want to see the movie based on the Silk Spectre casting alone.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[1]
Art and composition
.^ Of his seminal work, Moore said, “I didn’t design it to show off the similarities between cinema and comics, which are there but in my opinion are fairly unremarkable.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Alan Moore's material is great because of the amazingly unique way in which takes advantage of the comic-book medium.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ In that Moore was always right: his comic book issues allowed him the freedom and the breathing room to explore further than even a 3-hr movie ever could.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Of his seminal work, Moore said, “I didn’t design it to show off the similarities between cinema and comics, which are there but in my opinion are fairly unremarkable.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Adapting a comic book into a film — not just a character or group of them, like Batman or the X-Men, but a full-on book — is a confusing thing.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ I haven't read any script, but I have read Watchmen several times.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ That Moore read the Hayter's script and said it was the best adaptation conceivable.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I read the Sam Hamm WATCHMEN script a long time ago, and frankly it was awful.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[8] .^ 'Watchmen features more blue cocks than Iron Man.'- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ But Watchmen is more grand and epic than Sin City of course.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I'm only writing this much cause the only comic I love more than that is Dark Knight and they'll never pull that off I'm afraid.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
The main thrust of the story essentially hinges on what is called a
macguffin, a gimmick ... So really the plot itself is of no great consequence ... it just really isn't the most interesting thing about
Watchmen. As we actually came to tell the tale, that's where the real creativity came in."
[26]
.^ And some of the scenes with Dr. Manhattan manage to convey the damning isolation of free will that haunts the character and the book.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ "I think Watchmen would make a perfect 12 ep series" by Ribbons .- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ During the movie, I felt like I would have been better served if I had stayed home, took a long shit and re-read the comic book.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[27] The artist tried to draw the series with "a particular weight of line, using a hard, stiff pen that didn't have much modulation in terms of thick and thin" which he hoped "would differentiate it from the usual lush, fluid kind of comic book line".
[28] In a 2009 interview, Moore recalled that he took advantage of Gibbons' training as a former
surveyor for "including incredible amounts of detail in every tiny panel, so we could choreograph every little thing".
[29] Gibbons described the series as "a comic about comics".
[14] Gibbons felt that "Alan is more concerned with the social implications of [the presence of super-heroes] and I've gotten involved in the technical implications." The story's alternate world setting allowed Gibbons to change details of the American landscape, such as adding
electric cars, slightly different buildings, and spark hydrants instead of
fire hydrants, which Moore said, "perhaps gives the American readership a chance in some ways to see their own culture as an outsider would". Gibbons noted that the setting was liberating for him because he did not have to rely primarily on reference books.
[3]
.^ And John Higgins colors certainly makes the mood of the book everything it can possibly be.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[11] .^ And John Higgins colors certainly makes the mood of the book everything it can possibly be.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I love Alan Moore's writing, but he sure does seem like a primadonna when it comes to his comics being optioned as movies.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ In that Moore was always right: his comic book issues allowed him the freedom and the breathing room to explore further than even a 3-hr movie ever could.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ I don't care if they changed the story completely and made it about Rorsarch and Nite Owl playing pong ...- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I liked the changes that they made to the story, and even thought that it was improved by them in most places.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[3]
Structure
.^ I couln't even identify this tripe as Watchmen if it didn't tell us on the title page.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Art by Dave Gibbons.
.^ I can't see why that couldn't happen with Watchmen, especially since half of the content in that book is a metatextual commentary on comics itself, in a form that only works IN comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The film version of the Watchmen will be an adaptation of the comic book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I really loved reading The Watchmen the first time, because it was so subversive to the cliched view of comic book heroes with cookie cutter morality - heroes good, villains bad.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
Instead of panels of various sizes, the creators divided each page into a nine-panel grid.
[11] Gibbons favored the nine-panel grid system due to its "authority".
[28] Moore accepted the use of the nine-panel grid format, which "gave him a level of control over the storytelling he hadn't had previously", according to Gibbons. "There was this element of the pacing and visual impact that he could now predict and use to dramatic effect."
[26] Bhob Stewart of
The Comics Journal mentioned to Gibbons in 1987, that the page layouts recalled those of
EC Comics, in addition to the art itself, which Stewart felt particularly echoed that of
John Severin.
[14] .^ Anyway -- while I'm sure that banshee and I have very little else in common, I have to agree with her about the whole "They're marketing this to kids and they sure as hell shouldn't be" thing.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ At the same time, I think we need to look outside of that and give these things a chance.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[14] The artist also cited Steve Ditko's work on early issues of
The Amazing Spider-Man as an influence,
[30] as well as
Doctor Strange, where "even at his most psychedelic [he] would still keep a pretty straight page layout".
[9]
The cover of each issue serves as the first panel to the story.
.^ Plus, Moore started to look REALLY fucking old even in FYEO, and looks even worse in Octopussy.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I was never really for Watchmen being made into a movie, but at the same time I wasn't disappointed.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I expect many find it entertaining, but to me it is tiresome, and plays right into the arrested development comic-book-guy stereotypes that are so often conjured up.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[3] The covers were designed as close-ups that focused on a single detail with no human elements present.
[8] The creators on occasion experimented with the layout of the issue contents.
.^ Framed nearby is the FRONT PAGE OF THE BOSTON GLOBE. The headline reads "The Comedian Gets Last Laugh On Moloch."- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[3].^ Yes, asshole, I "really read the comic," and I acknowledged the "non-illustrated prose" that accompanies the end of each issue.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ I can't see why that couldn't happen with Watchmen, especially since half of the content in that book is a metatextual commentary on comics itself, in a form that only works IN comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ And that this is a business, and if you piss off your customers and they go away, and your hits go down and you can't sell your ad space, that will negatively effect your bottom line.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ During the movie, I felt like I would have been better served if I had stayed home, took a long shit and re-read the comic book.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
He decided to use the extra pages to fill out the series' backstory.
[13] .^ In that Moore was always right: his comic book issues allowed him the freedom and the breathing room to explore further than even a 3-hr movie ever could.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ That being said, I think Moore has it right with his notion that Books and the films that follow are two separate entities.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Last time someone said Moore was happy with a script was Joel Silver and look how well that worked out.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ During the movie, I felt like I would have been better served if I had stayed home, took a long shit and re-read the comic book.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Adapting a comic book into a film — not just a character or group of them, like Batman or the X-Men, but a full-on book — is a confusing thing.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I'll probably be the only one in here to say that I like this movie better than the original comic book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[3]
Tales of the Black Freighter
.^ Also queued for its March 24 release, the comic book within the comic book, Black Freighter.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ And if you really read the comic you would know that there is tons of viable material at the end of each issue in normal non illustrated prose form that a'la LOST (which counts Watchmen as an influence)could add even more depth to the story.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I can't see why that couldn't happen with Watchmen, especially since half of the content in that book is a metatextual commentary on comics itself, in a form that only works IN comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY AIRSPACE - NIGHT The Owl-Ship emerges from the subway tunnel .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY - NIGHT We move down the beautifully lit New York city skyline, passing the Brooklyn Bridge .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ EXT. NEW YORK CITY AIRSPACE - NIGHT The Owl-Ship WEAVES around the buildings, trying to shake the copters .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[23] .^ I really wish they wouldn't do this.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ You can't translate that to film, and it wouldn't make sense to do so, because once you pull that stuff off the page, it won't work--it's comics using comics conventions to comment on comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Making a comic adaption is easy when it's Batman or Spider-Man or any number of other characters hat have been re churned so many times since their inception.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[31] .^ Most interesting thing: I had no idea that Alan Moore was inspired by Brecht's "Pirate Jenny" for the Black Freighter, a song which, when you hear it, quite simply IS The Black Freighter.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I like parts of ALL the Bond movies because I'm a Bond fan, period.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ First of all, they aren't going to get a big enough budget, because the sci-fi genre isn't that well supported for the most part.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[3] .^ The thing is that Moore's story is solid enough (like V) that you can lift that out of the book almost completely and it would adapt REALLY well to film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ But still that does not take away from the fact that Veidt commits his crime not out of vanity (as in the comic books) but solely out of a supposed moral superiority.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I can't see why that couldn't happen with Watchmen, especially since half of the content in that book is a metatextual commentary on comics itself, in a form that only works IN comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Mainly, genres like horror, science fiction, and piracy, particularly piracy, became prominent--with EC riding the crest of the wave."
[12] .^ The world's present would end.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ What we were doing with the Watchmen was pointless--the savage nature of humankind would inevitably lead to the end of the world.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[32] .^ Yes, asshole, I "really read the comic," and I acknowledged the "non-illustrated prose" that accompanies the end of each issue.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Ditto for the Black Freighter and "Manhattan on Mars" issues.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ And instead of going into comics culture like the book did with 'Tales of the Black Freighter' it could do a comparable thing with radio culture.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ During the movie, I felt like I would have been better served if I had stayed home, took a long shit and re-read the comic book.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ The Watchmen could draw in a wide demographic with all the generations that have read the book, maybe even lead to new subscribers.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ It's such a tired gimmick, and I hope the rest of the movie isn't as...comic-book-ish as 300 was, because I could NOT stand the visuals in that movie.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
Orlando contributed a drawing designed as if it were a page from the fake title to the supplemental piece.
[12]
.^ Why even call this movie WATCHMEN? Give the characters new names and tell your story.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
He uses the bodies of his dead shipmates as a make-shift raft.
.^ Most interesting thing: I had no idea that Alan Moore was inspired by Brecht's "Pirate Jenny" for the Black Freighter, a song which, when you hear it, quite simply IS The Black Freighter.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
After realizing what he has done, he returns to the sea shore, where he finds that the Black Freighter has not come to claim the town; it has come to claim him. He swims out to sea and climbs aboard the ship. According to Richard Reynold, the mariner is "forced by the urgency of his mission to shed one inhibition after another." Just like Adrian Veidt, he "hopes to stave off disaster by using the dead bodies of his former comrades as a means of reaching his goal".
[33] Moore stated that the story of
The Black Freighter ends up specifically describing "the story of Adrian Veidt" and that it can also be used as a counterpoint to other parts of the story, such as Rorschach's capture and Dr. Manhattan's self-exile on Mars.
[31]
Symbols and imagery
Moore named
William S. Burroughs as one of his main influences during the conception of
Watchmen. He admired Burroughs' use of "repeated symbols that would become laden with meaning" in Burroughs' only comic strip, "
The Unspeakable Mr. Hart", which appeared in the British underground magazine
Cyclops.
.^ There is a lot of social commentary, Moore likes to cover a lot of things all at once.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Maybe there is indeed some jackass exec who thought that a commercial for this movie would be nice to put on after Spongebob.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ The only thing I don't get is why Snyder feels the need to put a naked woman floating in zero-gravity in his movies.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
turned up in there by accident."
[8]
The
Galle crater from the planet Mars appears in
Watchmen as an example of the series' recurring
smiley motif
A blood-stained
smiley face is a recurring image in the story, appearing in many forms. In
The System of Comics, Thierry Groensteen described the symbol as a recurring motif that produces "rhyme and remarkable configurations" by appearing in key segments of
Watchmen, notably the first and last pages of the series. Groensteen cites it as one form of the circle shape that appears throughout the story, as a "recurrent geometric motif" and due to its symbolic connotations.
[34] .^ Warm blood splashed my face.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Gibbons said the creators came to regard the blood-stained smiley face as "a symbol for the whole series",
[28] noting its resemblance to the
clock ticking up to midnight.
[9] .^ Warm blood splashed my face.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ (CONT'D) Blake saw the true face of human kind and chose to become a parody of it, treated it like a joke.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Although most evocations of the central image were created on purpose, others were coincidental. Moore mentioned in particular that "the little plugs on the spark hydrants, if you turn them upside down, you discover a little smiley face".
[8]Other symbols, images and allusion that appeared throughout the series often emerged unexpectedly.
.^ Nite Owl and Silk Spectre back at it again.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ FUCK is up with the director and his complete and utter obsession with all things male-body-oriented?- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ "A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like the vampire will touch her forearm or run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[14] In a book of the
craters and boulders of Mars, Gibbons discovered a photograph of the
Galle crater, which resembles a happy face, which they worked into an issue. Moore said, "We found a lot of these things started to generate themselves as if by magic", in particular citing an occasion where they decided to name a lock company the "
Gordian Knot Lock Company".
[12]Themes
.^ I hate them for that, some films I really like ( Lord of the Rings ) would have been much better with an intermission.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ The story is just so dense that just about any cuts made would make it unwieldy.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Ok, but seriously, if I edited all the footage of blue superhuman cock together, it would be about 1/2 an hour of the movie.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[35] .^ People who want to see a big budget major motion picture of Watchmen tend to bash the HBO mini series idea and vice versa.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ IMHO, anyone who claims to be a fan of the original source material and did NOT like this movie can teabag my nuts.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I just get a little tired of the so-called Fleming purists who trot out the same titles over and over, some of which I doubt they have re-watched in ten years.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[36] .^ Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Moore commented in 1987, "In the context of
Watchmen, that fits.
.^ You hate everybody around you and they hate you and none of you really hate the enemy, who may be the same people you're allegedly there to protect.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Even so, they’re characters with a history that comes out over the course of the thing… Their world has a history… it has a cohesion to it.
^ And I went with people who haven't read it, so they were even more out of the loop.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[3] .^ I was never really for Watchmen being made into a movie, but at the same time I wasn't disappointed.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Michael Mann's "At Night He Comes" is in the vein of Watchmen as to how it approaches the humanity of being a superhero.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I don't think V for Vendetta had really any interest in being a faithful adaptation.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[1]
Graffiti similar to that which appears in
Watchmen. Hemel Hempstead, May 2008.
.^ "WATCHMEN" is the pinnacle of Moore's superhero work and to reduce it to a B-level effects film rather than an A-Level project would be a shame.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[17] .^ I lump those people into the same category as people who believe the world is flat.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ That's the kind of thing that I thought Moore was trying to get at with The Watchmen character.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ CUT TO: The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES-- PRESIDENT The sound of a bullet at one end of the world echoes across the ocean to the other end.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Sometimes Harry really does come off as a bit inconsistent, which can be annoying for those of us who've been around this place for years.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I lump those people into the same category as people who believe the world is flat.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
.^ Alan thinks his content through always very carefully, whether they’re on a 9 panel grid or not.
^ MS: I was on Radio Bristol recently in a discussion where comics came up—and most people think that’s what they’re about.
^ CONTINUED: BLAKE But it takes a roomful of morons to think they're small enough for you guys to handle.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[3] .^ AM: Because they’ve got the real ones.
^ LAURIE You really do worry about me, don't you?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ I found really breathless because you were getting through so much in that one issue but 12 was everything I could’ve hoped it would be.
[4] .^ Unless we decide that the movie should still take place in an alternative 1986, and I don't think even Moore would like that approach.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ If a studio tries to make this and inevitably fucks it up, I will be mighty pissed, and so will many other Alan Moore fans.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Because only a complete asshole would try and make hay with a person's unintentional mistake, and I know you are not such a person.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[3]
.^ By all means, please share with us.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ We all have a different outlook.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ You think film is a medium capable of presenting Moore's work...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[41] .^ Watchmen is also an oddity in that it is a rather adult story, yet adults may not shine to superheroes...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ After the cities are destroyed the superheroes more or less agree it is the morally appropriate thing for Manhattan to be considered globally evil.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Tell me specifically what it is about the non-illustrated flashbacks, without "typical TalkBacker insults," that make their detailed adaptation so essential to the story of "Watchmen."- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[42] Reynolds concludes that the series' ironic self awareness of the genre "all mark out
Watchmen either as the last key superhero text, or the first in a new maturity of the genre".
[43]
Geoff Klock eschewed the term "deconstruction" in favor of describing
Watchmen as a "revisionary superhero narrative."
.^ The Dark Knight Returns shouldn't be a movie either.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Serenity, Star Wars, and Frank Millers Dark Knight1&2.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
of [a] new kind of comic book ... a first phase of development, the transition of the superhero from fantasy to literature."
[44] He elaborates by noting that "Alan Moore's realism ... performs a
kenosis towards comic book history ... [which] does not ennoble and empower his characters ... Rather, it sends a wave of disruption back through superhero history ... devalue[ing] one of the basic superhero conventions by placing his masked crime fighters in a realistic world ..."
[45] .^ The fact is that the reason everyone tries to justify the whacked out changes to adapting Moore is that his stories are so dense that two hours isn't enough time.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The thing is that Moore's story is solid enough (like V) that you can lift that out of the book almost completely and it would adapt REALLY well to film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[46] Klock relates the title to the quote by Juvenal to highlight the problem of controlling those who hold power and quoted repeatedly within the work itself.
[47] .^ Alan Moore wrote him.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Also, as far as Alan Moore goes, does anyone who knows anything about him think that he would ever endorse the idea of somebody making a movie of his work?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The comic book from Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons was remarkable for its depth and nuance of character, and any film version must out of necessity excise whole chunks of psychological development in order to come up with something that plays like a feature.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[48]Moore has expressed dismay that "[T]he gritty, deconstructivist postmodern superhero comic, as exemplified by
Watchmen... became a genre".
.^ Because there is a lot of story?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ There's still some possibility of improvement and I don't think that improvement goes to being closer to the book, as in updating the political background.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I get what the film was trying to be, I just don't think it was very good at it.- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[49] .^ AM: You know, that’s the thing, there is that degree of self-referential world-within-world, but with the pirate story… Pirates were Dave’s idea, we just said ‘What comics would they read in this world?” and Dave said, “What about pirates?” FJ: Why wouldn’t they have superhero comics?
^ It’s the kind of thing I’ve tried not to contrive too much, but like Alan was saying earlier it’s like striking a series of chords.
[50]Publication and reception
.^ Why did Alan Moore write the Watchmen?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Moore severed his ties with DC Comics over contractual issues related to the work.
When Moore and Gibbons turned in the first issue of
Watchmen to DC, their peers were stunned.
.^ Oh crud, I just realized you said Moore and not Snyder...- Watchmen Review | Pajiba - Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.pajiba.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ (Of course, Dave Gibbons visualized it all for you anyway.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I hope you will open it back up and give it another chance.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
and have been really supportive about even the most graphic excesses."
[3] To promote the series, DC Comics released a limited-edition badge ("button") display card set, featuring characters and images from the series. Ten thousand sets of the four badges, including a replica of the blood-stained
smiley face badge worn by the Comedian in the story, were released and sold.
[14] .^ Enjoy your Watchmen movie where the Comdian will be played by Robin Williams in a "prestige role" and all back stories that gave the story its meat will be whittled down to footnotes.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Enjoy your Watchmen movie where the Comdian will be played by Robin Williams in a "prestige role"....Well, if I ruled the world the only actor possible for this role is Burt Reynolds.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
The module, which was endorsed by Moore, adds details to the series' backstory by portraying events that occurred in 1966.
[52]Watchmen was published in single-issue form over the course of 1986 and 1987. The
limited series was a commercial success, and its sales helped DC Comics briefly overtake its competitor
Marvel Comics in the comic book direct market.
[37] The series' publishing schedule ran into delays because it was scheduled with three issues completed instead of the six Len Wein believed were necessary.
.^ Everyone seems to know so much more than you but won't tell you shit, and many of these hardened vets have only been there a month longer than you.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I'm only writing this much cause the only comic I love more than that is Dark Knight and they'll never pull that off I'm afraid.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[13] Bhob Stewart of the
The Comics Journal noted in Spring 1987 that issue #12, which DC solicited for April 1987, "looks like it won't debut until July or August".
[12]
After the series concluded, the individual issues were collected and sold in
trade paperback form.
.^ Graphic comic book novel.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ People who want to see a big budget major motion picture of Watchmen tend to bash the HBO mini series idea and vice versa.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Leave the watchmen to the fans, who have an appreciation for the graphic novel aspect, and the details in this story, which cant be fully achieved in a 3 hour movie...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[53] As a result of the publicity given to the books like the
Watchmen trade in 1987, bookstore and public libraries began to devote special shelves to them. Subsequently, new comics series were commissioned on the basis of reprinting them in a collected form for these markets.
[54] .^ A good adaptation realises that it must make certain sacrifices for the original material to work for a different art-form.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
In 2005, DC released
Absolute Watchmen, an oversized slipcased hardcover edition of the series in DC's
Absolute Edition format. Assembled under the supervision of Dave Gibbons,
Absolute Watchmen included the Graphitti materials, as well as restored and recolored art by John Higgins.
[55] In 2008, Warner Bros.
.^ People who want to see a big budget major motion picture of Watchmen tend to bash the HBO mini series idea and vice versa.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I expect many find it entertaining, but to me it is tiresome, and plays right into the arrested development comic-book-guy stereotypes that are so often conjured up.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I can't see why that couldn't happen with Watchmen, especially since half of the content in that book is a metatextual commentary on comics itself, in a form that only works IN comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
The first chapter was released for purchase in the summer of 2008 on digital video stores, such as
iTunes Store.
[56] That December, DC published a new printing of
Watchmen issue #1 at the original 1986 cover price of $1.50.
[57] A DVD compiling the full
motion comic series was released in March 2009.
[58]Watchmen received critical praise, both inside and outside of the comics industry.
Time, which noted that the series was "by common assent the best of breed" of the new wave of comics published at the time, praised
Watchmen as "a superlative feat of imagination, combining sci-fi, political satire, knowing evocations of comics past and bold reworkings of current graphic formats into a dysutopian
[sic] mystery story."
[59] In 1988,
Watchmen received a
Hugo Award in the Other Forms category.
[60]
Moore stated in 1985 that if the limited series was well-received, he and Gibbons would possibly create a 12-issue prequel series called
Minutemen featuring the 1940s superhero group from the story.
[10] Steve Whitaker joked in British
fanzine Fantasy Advertiser that such a story would naturally revolve around "Lesbian and homosexual relationships and costumed kinks in a '40s environment..."
[61] DC offered Moore and Gibbons chances to publish prequels to the series, such as
Rorschach's Journal or
The Comedian's Vietnam War Diary, as well as hinting at the possibility of other authors using the same universe.
[62] .^ HOLLIS Well, even though I spent my time catching real bad guys, you were still a better Nite Owl than I ever was.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ I think Cusack will stay the right age for Nite Owl for another ten years, so they have time.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[62] .^ The thing is that Moore's story is solid enough (like V) that you can lift that out of the book almost completely and it would adapt REALLY well to film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ It would be cool to think all this uber-violent shit is going on in the same world that Spider Man's candy ass is running around forgiving everyone.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ But if you aren't going to tell Alan Moore' story, why disrespect his characters to tell yours?- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[62] .^ I know more about fucking COMIC BOOKS than you will ever know!- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ They need to be addressed on film because they lend depth to the story and make it more than another "alternate universe with superheroes in it" hack job that would be hard to avoid in a 2 hour film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The thing is that Moore's story is solid enough (like V) that you can lift that out of the book almost completely and it would adapt REALLY well to film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ I don't see how either of these would be effectively used in a so-called "Director's Cut" of Watchmen, and wouldn't be interested in seeing it, anyway.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Campbell kind of flies under the radar, but he knows how to create an interesting yarn for the screen (see The Mask of Zorro for example).- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[15]Disagreements about the ownership of the story ultimately led Alan Moore to sever ties with DC Comics.
[63] .^ But we do not want to see you cut Moore's work just to replace Laurie's struggle with a friggin' magic memory mirror.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ "WATCHMEN" is the pinnacle of Moore's superhero work and to reduce it to a B-level effects film rather than an A-Level project would be a shame.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Speaking at the 1985
San Diego Comic-Con, Moore said "The way it works, if I understand it, is that DC owns it for the time they're publishing it, and then it reverts to Dave and me, so we can make all the money from the
Slurpee cups."
[10] For
Watchmen, Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons received eight percent of the series' earnings.
[8] .^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[3] .^ That being said, I think Moore has it right with his notion that Books and the films that follow are two separate entities.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Gibbons and he, sold the rights to DC UNTIL they would stop printing it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ HOWEVER, I also saw OHMSS and LIVING DAYLIGHTS and, strange as it might seem, they have both aged pretty well.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ Rather, they decided that they could create better characters and a better story than Moore and proceeded to rework it rather than adapt it.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan might well indicate that they are not benefitting from this and still need oil.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ This demand has nothing to do with anything other than to motivate Dan to act so out of character that fans will be rolling their eyes.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[3]Moore said he left DC in 1989 due to the language in his contracts for
Watchmen and his
V for Vendetta series with artist
David Lloyd.
.^ You are taking me out of here because if you don't, and Jon does come back, I'm going to let him know who was naughty and who was nice.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
.^ You're working in here at the same time we're in bed!?- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ You're trying to tell me that an HBO series COULD work when I never said that it couldn't.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I think what Moriarty said bares repeating: "And if you can look at all the times people have done exactly what they should "never" have been able to do, and you can still be so incredibly closed to this film sight unseen, then just give it up."- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[63] In 2000, Moore publicly distanced himself from DC's plans for a fifteenth anniversary
Watchmen hardcover release as well as a proposed line of action figures from
DC Direct.
.^ OK, I posted that, I posted that...There isn't going to be a direct, panel to panel tranfer from the comic, no matter what the transfer.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ Ask him to tell Alan Moore's and Dave Gibbons' story and not David Hayter's.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I know it isn't quite that simple, but in my mind, this "property" is indeed the intellectual property of Moore and Gibbons.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[64] .^ Meant to say, "shocked that Snyder is directing WATCHMEN." Although on some level, I guess 300 too.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[65]Film adaptation
Interior set of Nite Owl's vehicle "Archie" from the film version of
Watchmen, displayed at Comic-Con 2008.
.^ "I think Watchmen would make a perfect 12 ep series" by Ribbons .- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The alginment of the stars it would take for the fan version of Watchmen is near impossible for Levin/Gordon.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I still hope they don't make Watchmen into a film by Rupee88 .- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[66] .^ I love Alan Moore's writing, but he sure does seem like a primadonna when it comes to his comics being optioned as movies.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I hope he's loved it for 20 years and that he's so intimate with the story that he can untie Alan Moore's Gordian knot and refasten it around the silver screen.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Ask him to tell Alan Moore's and Dave Gibbons' story and not David Hayter's.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Hamm took the liberty of re-writing
Watchmen's complicated ending into a "more manageable" conclusion involving an assassination and a time paradox.
[67] Fox put the project into
turnaround in 1991,
[68] and the project was moved to
Warner Bros., where
Terry Gilliam was attached to direct and
Charles McKeown to rewrite it.
.^ Okay, Comic Book Buddies, they put that in a movie.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ From Hell suffered because they couldn't tell the stories of London's minor characters, and thus removed the shared consciousness that made that book so excellent.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[67] .^ Paul Greengrass has made some pretty successful low budget films and even he struggled to keep 'Watchmen' under $100 million.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Levin/Gordon/Greengrass/Snyder /Hayter/Hamm/Gilliam - not one of these people has shown in any previous film the insight it would take to translate that aspect.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[67] .^ By the way, I would hardly call myself an "HBO hater" just because I think that a good 'Watchmen' movie is plausible.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ "WATCHMEN" is the pinnacle of Moore's superhero work and to reduce it to a B-level effects film rather than an A-Level project would be a shame.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I enjoy the fact that Snyder is only taking R-rated projects (he turned down S.W.A.T. because they made it PG-13), and Watchmen HAS to be R-rated.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ There is no point in Watchmen where you can make a clean break without akwardly cutting the story in two, which thanks to Tarantino, we know can be done.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ It's just a fun topic to talk about, and we'll be speculating about it 5 years from now, but as a feature film, it will NEVER HAPPEN! I'm taking all betters on this.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ As I said, Hayter's script does a good job of condensing the book in a script for a 2 and half hour movie.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[69] After Warner Bros. dropped the project,
.^ Levin/Gordon/Greengrass/Snyder /Hayter/Hamm/Gilliam - not one of these people has shown in any previous film the insight it would take to translate that aspect.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
.^ And to dismiss the suggestion that an HBO-style miniseries wouldn't work doesn't mean a 2 hour film would.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I'll probably be the only one in here to say that I like this movie better than the original comic book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The director's cut of the Thomas Jane film DESERVED A Sequel and would have been MUCH better than this PILE of.....- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[70]
.^ Levin/Gordon/Greengrass/Snyder /Hayter/Hamm/Gilliam - not one of these people has shown in any previous film the insight it would take to translate that aspect.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[71] .^ The alginment of the stars it would take for the fan version of Watchmen is near impossible for Levin/Gordon.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Levin/Gordon/Greengrass/Snyder /Hayter/Hamm/Gilliam - not one of these people has shown in any previous film the insight it would take to translate that aspect.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
The project did not hold together at Revolution Studios and subsequently fell apart.
[73] .^ I'd like to throw anoter name into the mix which will never, in a million years be true, but, I think Darren Aronofsky would also be a good choice for the director's chair.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I would LOVE to see this story on the big screen, I just don't see any indication from the Hamm or Hayter drafts that we're moving in a positive direction.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ If the Hayter script is anything like Vynson described, then it is apparently a bastardization, and would be better left unfilmed.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
Producers Gordon and Levin remained attached, collaborating with Aronofsky's producing partner, Eric Watson.
[74] Paul Greengrass replaced Aronofsky when he left to focus on
The Fountain.
[75] Ultimately, Paramount placed
Watchmen in turnaround.
[76]
In October 2005, Gordon and Levin met with Warner Bros. to develop the film there again.
[77] Impressed with
Zack Snyder's work on
300,
Warner Bros. approached him to direct an adaptation of
Watchmen.
[78] .^ I've never read Hayter's script, but I have read the original graphic novel, and both Moriarty's review of Hayter's script and Vynson's comments on the same script.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ WATCHMEN Written by David Hayter & Alex Tse INT. EDWARD BLAKE'S APARTMENT - KITCHEN - EVENING CLOSE ON: A "Have A Nice Day" HAPPY FACE PIN. STEAM rises past the pin.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ Writers : David Hayter Alex Tse Genres : Action Fantasy Sci-Fi Thriller User Comments .- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
Similar to his approach to
300, Snyder used the comic book as a
storyboard.
[80] He has extended the fight scenes,
[81] and added a subplot about energy resources to make the film more topical.
[82] .^ Yes, it can be made into a single film.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Middle-aged actors looking kinda stupid in Nite Owl or Ozymandias costumes: gone.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ A FIREFIGHTER looks up in time to see the Owl-Ship disappear into the clouds.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
[15] .^ I know more about fucking COMIC BOOKS than you will ever know!- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ My red world here means more to me than your blue one.- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
^ You may have general fears about how the project is going to be translated but if Watchmen is indeed going to find a home on Cinema screens, which is almost inevitable as time goes on, then this article is a reason to be more optomistic than you were...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[83] While 20th Century Fox filed a lawsuit to block the film's release, the studios eventually settled, and Fox received an upfront payment and a percentage of the worldwide gross from the film and all sequels and spin-offs in return.
[84] The film was released to theaters in March 2009.
.^ And instead of going into comics culture like the book did with 'Tales of the Black Freighter' it could do a comparable thing with radio culture.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Tales of The Black Freighter by Zardoz .- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[85] Gerard Butler, who starred in
300, voices the Captain in the film.
[86] .^ And instead of going into comics culture like the book did with 'Tales of the Black Freighter' it could do a comparable thing with radio culture.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Tales of The Black Freighter by Zardoz .- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
is speculated to be considering releasing an extended version, with the animated film edited back into the main picture.
[85] Len Wein, the comic's editor, wrote a video game prequel entitled
Watchmen: The End Is Nigh.
[87]
.^ I feel that the problem with every film based on a Moore work has to do with they way in which they were condensed.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Ask him to tell Alan Moore's and Dave Gibbons' story and not David Hayter's.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ You think film is a medium capable of presenting Moore's work...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[88] .^ Most interesting thing: I had no idea that Alan Moore was inspired by Brecht's "Pirate Jenny" for the Black Freighter, a song which, when you hear it, quite simply IS The Black Freighter.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ I don't see how either of these would be effectively used in a so-called "Director's Cut" of Watchmen, and wouldn't be interested in seeing it, anyway.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ And there is no such thing as the "real" Bond.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
[90]
Legacy
.^ When it's V or Watchmen or any number of recent adaptions of singular work that was made for the love of the medium and not for the mass market it does jangle a nerve, because it's a more important piece of work.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I hope he goes back to the comic book and works on an actual adaptation.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I can't see why that couldn't happen with Watchmen, especially since half of the content in that book is a metatextual commentary on comics itself, in a form that only works IN comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
In
Art of the Comic Book: An Aesthetic History, Robert Harvey wrote that with
Watchmen, Moore and Gibbons "had demonstrated as never before the capacity of the [comic book] medium to tell a sophisticated story that could be engineered only in comics".
[91] In his review of the Absolute Edition of the collection, Dave Itzkoff of
The New York Times wrote that the dark legacy of
Watchmen, "one that Moore almost certainly never intended, whose DNA is encoded in the increasingly black inks and bleak storylines that have become the essential elements of the contemporary superhero comic book," is "a domain he has largely ceded to writers and artists who share his fascination with brutality but not his interest in its consequences, his eagerness to tear down old boundaries but not his drive to find new ones."
[92] In 1999,
The Comics Journal ranked
Watchmen at number 91 on its list of the Top 100 English-Language Comics of the 20th Century.
[93] .^ Octopussy has got to be one of the greatest non-pron movie titles of all-time.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 16 September 2009 7:48 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: FILTERED WITH BAYES]
^ It all comes down to respect for the original property, and I think what bugs me most is the assumption that only fanboys are able to "truly" respect WATCHMEN properly.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I think given the right vision a Watchmen film could be done with little change from the graphic novel...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[94] Time critic Lev Grossman described the story as "a heart-pounding, heartbreaking read and a watershed in the evolution of a young medium."
[95] In 2008,
Entertainment Weekly placed it at number 13 on its list of the best 50 novels printed in the last 25 years, describing it as "The greatest superhero story ever told and proof that comics are capable of smart, emotionally resonant narratives worthy of the label
literature."
[96] In 2009 Lydia Millet of
The Wall Street Journal contested that
Watchmen was worthy of such acclaim, and wrote that while the series' "vividly drawn panels, moody colors and lush imagery make its popularity well-deserved, if disproportionate", that "it's simply bizarre to assert that, as an illustrated literary narrative, it rivals in artistic merit, say, masterpieces like
Chris Ware's '
Acme Novelty Library' or almost any part of the witty and brilliant work of
Edward Gorey".
[97]
.^ I'll probably be the only one in here to say that I like this movie better than the original comic book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ I can't see why that couldn't happen with Watchmen, especially since half of the content in that book is a metatextual commentary on comics itself, in a form that only works IN comics.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ The film version of the Watchmen will be an adaptation of the comic book.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
[98] In 2009, Brain Scan Studios released the parody
Watchmensch, a comic in which writer
Rich Johnston based the story around "the debate surrounding Watchmen, the original contracts, the current legal suits over the Fox contract".
[99]
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- Harvey, Robert C. The Art of the Comic Book: An Aesthetic History.^ There is a "deconstruction" of superhero comics that is highly entertaining for those with a history of comics reading, but there are many other elements that really make the book entertaining.
- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
University Press of Mississippi, 1996. ISBN 0878057587
- Klock, Geoff. .^ There is a "deconstruction" of superhero comics that is highly entertaining for those with a history of comics reading, but there are many other elements that really make the book entertaining.
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- Sabin, Roger. .^ The Sam Hamm draft was a terrible experience to read, but I believe in Hayter's abilities to bring the comic (or graphic novel, whatever) medium to the screen.
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^ In my opinion, the only hope is to do to the mainstream audience what the graphic novel did to comics fans in 1986...- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
^ Graphic comic book novel.- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.aintitcool.com [Source type: General]
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Further reading
- Rosen, Elizabeth (Autumn 2006). "'What's That You Smell Of?' Twenty Years of Watchmen Nostalgia". Foundation: The International Review of Science Fiction 35 (98): 95–98.
- Hughes, Jamie A. (August 2006). .
- Wolf-Meyer, Matthew (Winter 2003).^ The smoke clears enough for Dan to see a message SPRAY- PAINTED on a brick wall: "WHO WATCHES THE WATCHMEN?" DAN How long can we keep this up?
- Watchmen Script at IMSDb. 28 January 2010 1:01 UTC www.imsdb.com [Source type: General]
"The World Ozymandias Made: Utopias in the Superhero Comic, Subculture, and the Conservation of Difference". Journal of Popular Culture 36 (3): 497–506.
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