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.^ Elephantus 22:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC) -- Cesare87 22:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC) The "tiles" logo makes the Wiktionary project look like a child's toy.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ Dendodge 16:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Broc 16:23, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Small Bug 16:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Antal 17:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)C) Style and colour scheme are more like Wikipedia, making it recognisable as a Wikimedia project.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ Wiktionary is as much a book as any Wikimedia project, but the other projects ended up using a variety of metaphors instead.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
.^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ Because it starkly contrasts with the world's most popular natively literate language, Chinese, I do not understand how its choice could even be remotely respectable.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
.^ I would support making allowance for the text (the text within the book) to be rewritten on Wiktionaries whose primary languages don't use the Latin script, as long as it was tastefully done.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ January 2010 (UTC) Flying Saucer 21:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Obelix 21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC) The other logo is already used on plenty of the foreign language Wiktionaries.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ Besides noticeably using actual English upon magnification, its usage would incorrectly imply that all languages have a written directionality of horizontal left-to-right.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
History
and development
Wiktionary was brought online on December 12, 2002, following a
proposal by Daniel Alston. On March 29, 2004, the first non-
English
Wiktionaries were initiated in
French and
Polish.
.^ January 2010 (UTC) Flying Saucer 21:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Obelix 21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC) The other logo is already used on plenty of the foreign language Wiktionaries.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
.^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
.^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
The English
Wiktionary is the second largest (and currently the only other
edition with over 1,500,000 entries).
.^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
[3]
The use of
bots to
generate large numbers of articles is visible as "growth spurts" in
this graph of article counts at the largest eight Wiktionary
editions. (Data as of March 2008)
.^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
Seven of the 18 bots
registered at the English Wiktionary
[4]
created 163,000 of the entries there.
[5]
Only 259 entries remain (each containing many definitions) on
Wiktionary from the original import by Websterbot from public
domain sources; the majority of those imports have been split out
to thousands of proper entries manually. Another one of these bots,
"ThirdPersBot," was responsible for the addition of a number of
third-person conjugations that would not
receive their own entries in standard dictionaries; for instance,
it defined "smoulders" as the "third-person singular simple present
form of smoulder." Excluding these 163,000 entries, the English
Wiktionary would have about 137,000 entries, including terms unique
to languages other than English, making it smaller than most
monolingual print dictionaries. The
Oxford English
Dictionary, for instance, has 615,000 headwords, while
Merriam-Webster's Third New
International Dictionary of the English Language,
Unabridged has 475,000 entries (with many additional embedded
headwords). It should be noted, though, that more detailed
statistics now exist to more clearly distinguish genuine entries
from minor (small) entries.
The English Wiktionary, however does not rely on bots to the
extent that newer editions do.
.^ It's already an SVG file, it's still the logo for some wiktionaries (french one for example), it's more easily scalable, and it's easier to make a suitable favicon from it.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
[6]
These imported entries make up virtually all of the Vietnamese
edition's offering.
.^ In miniature, the Latin alphabet of the other image could look like English, French, Spanish, or even the Cyrillic of Russian but its spacing is clearly different from right-to-left Arabic and vertical Chinese.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
.^ Wiktionary is as much a book as any Wikimedia project, but the other projects ended up using a variety of metaphors instead.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ January 2010 (UTC) Flying Saucer 21:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Obelix 21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC) The other logo is already used on plenty of the foreign language Wiktionaries.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
The
Russian edition grew by nearly 80,000
entries as "LXbot" added boilerplate entries (with headings, but
without definitions) for words in English and
German.
[7]
.^ I haven't seen this one used anywhere, so I am most definitely going for this open-book logo!- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ Or a vote for the current textual logo (which isn't an option and will not be counted)?- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ January 2010 (UTC) Flying Saucer 21:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Obelix 21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC) The other logo is already used on plenty of the foreign language Wiktionaries.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
[8]
.^ From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki .- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ OlEnglish 18:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC) Estoy Aquí 19:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC) I like this one so much that I think all WikiMedia wikis for which this makes sense should use a similar logo.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ In addition, this logo at least upholds the idea that Wiktionary is a flexible entity (what I see from the tiles) which can be rearranged to suit the interests of its readers.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
.^ Dlb76 23:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC) Elfred 01:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC) This logo looks like what Wiktionary is.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ Quantumobserver 03:53, 7 January 2010 (UTC) It's about time Wiktionary had a logo as good as that of Wikipedia.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
[10]
.^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ I would support making allowance for the text (the text within the book) to be rewritten on Wiktionaries whose primary languages don't use the Latin script, as long as it was tastefully done.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ January 2010 (UTC) Flying Saucer 21:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Obelix 21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC) The other logo is already used on plenty of the foreign language Wiktionaries.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
In April 2009, the issue was resurrected, and a poll to
decide on a new project-wide logo is underway.
[11]
Critical
reception
Critical reception of Wiktionary has been mixed. Jill Lepore
wrote in the article "Noah’s Ark" for
The New Yorker,
(November 6, 2006)
[12]
There’s no show of hands at Wiktionary. There’s not
even an editorial staff. "Be your own lexicographer!", might be
Wiktionary’s motto. Who needs experts? Why pay good money
for a dictionary written by lexicographers when we can cobble one
together ourselves?
Wiktionary isn’t so much republican or democratic as
Maoist. And it’s only as good as the copyright-expired books from
which it pilfers. If you look up the word "Webster" in the
Wiktionary, you will be redirected to this handy tip:
.^ Jahnavi7 08:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Not anglocentric as the left one, therefore suitable for various language editions of Wiktionary.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ I would support making allowance for the text (the text within the book) to be rewritten on Wiktionaries whose primary languages don't use the Latin script, as long as it was tastefully done.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
^ January 2010 (UTC) Flying Saucer 21:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC) Obelix 21:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC) The other logo is already used on plenty of the foreign language Wiktionaries.- Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting/fr - Meta 13 January 2010 21:26 UTC meta.wikimedia.org [Source type: General]
But, hey, at least they got his first name right.
Keir Graff’s review
for
Booklist was less critical:
Is there a place for Wiktionary? Undoubtedly. The industry and
enthusiasm of its many creators are proof that there’s a market.
And it’s wonderful to have another strong source to use when
searching the odd terms that pop up in today’s fast-changing world
and the online environment. But as with so many Web sources
(including this column), it’s best used by sophisticated users in
conjunction with more reputable sources.
References in other publications are fleeting and part of larger
discussions of Wikipedia, not progressing beyond a definition,
although David Brooks in
The Nashua Telegraph
described it as
wild and woolly.
[13]
(
Wooly is defined as "confused"
and "unrestrained."
[14])
One of the impediments to independent coverage of Wiktionary is the
continuing confusion that it is merely an extension of
Wikipedia.
[15] In
2005,
PC
Magazine rated Wiktionary as one of the Internet's "Top
101 Web Sites,"
[16]
although little information was given about the site.
See also
References
- ^
Alexa rank
- ^
Wiktionary's current URL is www.wiktionary.org.
- ^
Wiktionary total article counts are here. Detailed statistics
by word type are available here.
- ^ The user list at the
English Wiktionary identifies accounts that have been given "bot
status".
- ^ TheDaveBot, TheCheatBot, Websterbot, PastBot, NanshuBot
- ^ Hồ Ngọc Đức, Free Vietnamese Dictionary
Project. Details at the Vietnamese Wiktionary.
- ^ LXbot
- ^
"Wiktionary talk:Wiktionary Logo", English Wiktionary, Wikimedia
Foundation.
- ^ "Wiktionary/logo", Meta-Wiki, Wikimedia
Foundation.
- ^ "Wiktionary/logo", Wikimedia
Meta-Wiki, Wikimedia Foundation.
- ^ "Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting",
Meta-Wiki, Wikimedia Foundation.
- ^
The full article is not available on-line. Jill Lepore (November 6, 2006). "Noah's Ark" (Abstract).
The New Yorker. http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/11/06/061106fa_fact_lepore. Retrieved April 21,
2007.
- ^
David Brooks, "Online, interactive encyclopedia not just for geeks
anymore, because everyone seems to need it now, more than ever!"
The Nashua Telegraph (August 4, 2004)
- ^ "wooly".
Wiktionary. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wooly.
- ^
In this citation, the author refers to Wiktionary as part of the
Wikipedia site: Adapted from an article
by Naomi DeTullio (2006 (1st Quarter)). "Wikis for Librarians"
(PDF newsletter). NETLS News #142 (Northeast Texas Library
System): p. 15. http://www.netls.org/NewContent/NewsAndPictures/NEWSLETTERS/NEWS2006/142final.pdf. Retrieved April 21,
2007.
- ^ "Wiktionary". Top 101
Web Sites. PC Magazine. April 6, 2005.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1786207,00.asp. Retrieved December 16,
2005.
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